Felix Pie

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Dominican Winter League yesterday:

 

LHP Raul Valdes: 6 IP, 0 R, 7 H, 4/1

No Felix.

[Chris]

But is he even being taught plate disipline? Is this something the Cubs are even worried about?

 

I just dropped Dave a message asking about the plate discipline of Pie. I'll let you know once I hear from him.

[Jon]

Dominican Winter League yesterday:

 

LHP Raul Valdes: 6 IP, 0 R, 7 H, 4/1

No Felix.

Licey.com has Pie going 1-3 with a strikeout in the first, a strikeout in the third, a single to leadoff the 6th but tagged out at second, and a sac bunt in the 8th. The box credits him with a stolen base, as well, but that looks to be a mistake.

 

Also, Marmol pitched for Licey and threw 1/3 of the inning at the end to get the only man he faced. Valdes pitched for Azucareros.

[cubfan1954]

The "SB" in the box score is for sacrifice bunt, not stolen base

[Jon]

The "SB" in the box score is for sacrifice bunt, not stolen base

Well, that would be the logical explanation.

 

Do I still get to blame the translation on this one? To think they have two "SB" categories...

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Dominican Winter League yesterday:

 

LHP Raul Valdes: 6 IP, 0 R, 7 H, 4/1

No Felix.

Licey.com has Pie going 1-3 with a strikeout in the first, a strikeout in the third, a single to leadoff the 6th but tagged out at second, and a sac bunt in the 8th. The box credits him with a stolen base, as well, but that looks to be a mistake.

 

Also, Marmol pitched for Licey and threw 1/3 of the inning at the end to get the only man he faced. Valdes pitched for Azucareros.

 

What...more research than just checking my Minor League Boxes e-mails? Boo.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Dominican Winter League yesterday:

 

LHP Raul Valdes: 6 IP, 0 R, 7 H, 4/1

No Felix.

Licey.com has Pie going 1-3 with a strikeout in the first, a strikeout in the third, a single to leadoff the 6th but tagged out at second, and a sac bunt in the 8th. The box credits him with a stolen base, as well, but that looks to be a mistake.

 

Also, Marmol pitched for Licey and threw 1/3 of the inning at the end to get the only man he faced. Valdes pitched for Azucareros.

 

What...more research than just checking my Minor League Boxes e-mails? Boo.

You're the anti-O_O

[Jon]

Raisin must be bogged down with not having to do school work.

[Outshined_One]

You're the anti-O_O

 

Raisin must be bogged down with not having to do school work.

 

Mwahahahahahahahaha.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Yesterday: 3/4, K, HR for Felix.

[Jon]

Yesterday: 3/4, K, HR for Felix.

Sweet. I wonder if he flexed his biceps when he crossed home plate.

[Jon]

Felix batted 2nd yesterday and went 0-3 (two groundouts and a flyout) with a HBP.

[Jon]

In the 2-hole, Pie is 1-3 so far tonight with a double and a walk.

[Chris]

But is he even being taught plate disipline? Is this something the Cubs are even worried about?

 

I just dropped Dave a message asking about the plate discipline of Pie. I'll let you know once I hear from him.

 

Here's the response I got from Dave:

 

everyone needs "plate discipline", because as you move up thru the minor leagues, pitchers have better command of all their pitches, and

if you don't know your strike zone, as well as your strengths and limitations, you become labeled as a 'free-swinger'...felix knows that if

he can bunt more and walk more because his patience and discipline at the plate is improved, he'll get on base and have a chance to steal bases and score runs and help his team win

[Jon]

Felix struck out in his final at bat, leaving him 1-4 tonight.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Through 5 games, 18 ABs for Felix:

 

.388/.476/.777/1.253; 5 K, 2 BB

[CubsWin]

But is he even being taught plate disipline? Is this something the Cubs are even worried about?

 

I just dropped Dave a message asking about the plate discipline of Pie. I'll let you know once I hear from him.

 

Here's the response I got from Dave:

 

everyone needs "plate discipline", because as you move up thru the minor leagues, pitchers have better command of all their pitches, and

if you don't know your strike zone, as well as your strengths and limitations, you become labeled as a 'free-swinger'...felix knows that if

he can bunt more and walk more because his patience and discipline at the plate is improved, he'll get on base and have a chance to steal bases and score runs and help his team win

Thanks for that DJAXXFAN.

 

Though, I just want to point out that I didn't write the questions you have quoted me as writing above. I quoted them in an earlier post in this thread and responded to them. I've forgotten who actually asked those questions.

 

I am of the belief that Pie knows he needs to work on his plate discipline based on quotes of his in an article at Cubs.com. Whether the Cubs will allow him to work on that while still in the minors is the question I have. I am hoping they give him as much time as he needs.

[CuseCubFan69]

Through 5 games, 18 ABs for Felix:

 

.388/.476/.777/1.253; 5 K, 2 BB

 

I like the 88+ from the batting average. He seems to seeing the ball very well right now.

[Jon]

1/4 with a stolen base tonight. Here's what happened following his groundout in his 4th AB:

 

Manager Rafael Landestoy is explusado by Juan Diaz, umpire of first, when discussing the play of out of F.Pie

 

Later in the game, the guy who replaced Pie in the field struck out and was tossed by the ump for arguing. Looks like the other manager was tossed, as well.

[T2E]

AskBA on Felix:

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/columnists/askba.html

 

As a lifelong Cubs fan, I've learned to live with disappointment and look to the future with the minors. With that said, I'm not sure exactly what to think of Felix Pie. He strikes out at a clip comparable to Corey Patterson and is caught stealing way too much for a person with his speed. This doesn't seem like the answer at leadoff for the Cubs, now or in the future. Patterson was rushed through the minors and never learned how to make adjustments when he needed to. Now he has to learn how to make these adjustments just to remain a big leaguer. Personally, I think the Cubs should sign Johnny Damon and tell Pie he has a couple of more years of seasoning ahead of him. What do you think they should do with Pie?

 

Ryan Kalasz

Columbus, Ohio

 

There has been talk that the Cubs would have promoted Pie to play center field this season if a bone bruise in his right ankle hadn't brought his season to an end in mid-June. He also is mentioned among the club's center-field candidates for 2006. While Pie did start to tap into his raw power this year, I think it's too early to count on him helping in the major leagues.

 

Pie is a talented athlete, no question, and he hit .304/.349/.554 with 11 homers and 13 steals in 59 Double-A games this year at age 20. He's the organization's top prospect. But he still has a lot of rough edges to his game. He doesn't walk much, he's rough as a basestealer and he can take erratic routes in center field. Pie has the chance to be a very good player in time, with the key phrase of this sentence being "in time." He needs another season or two in the minors.

 

If they promote him now, the Cubs run the risk of sending the wrong message to Pie, just as they did to Patterson. When Patterson was coming up through the minors, his biggest weaknesses were his strike-zone discipline, his bunting ability and his performance against lefthanders. The Cubs kept saying that Patterson needed to work on those areas, but he kept putting up good overall numbers and they kept rushing him toward Wrigley Field. Patterson made it to the majors at age 21 in 2000 and was a regular by the end of 2001. Pitchers took advantage of Patterson and those same flaws in the majors because he never made adjustments, and now he's coming off a horrible .215/.254/.348 season.

 

Totally agree, the Cubs should look at Patterson and learn from their mistakes.

[rawaction]

AskBA on Felix:

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/columnists/askba.html

 

As a lifelong Cubs fan, I've learned to live with disappointment and look to the future with the minors. With that said, I'm not sure exactly what to think of Felix Pie. He strikes out at a clip comparable to Corey Patterson and is caught stealing way too much for a person with his speed. This doesn't seem like the answer at leadoff for the Cubs, now or in the future. Patterson was rushed through the minors and never learned how to make adjustments when he needed to. Now he has to learn how to make these adjustments just to remain a big leaguer. Personally, I think the Cubs should sign Johnny Damon and tell Pie he has a couple of more years of seasoning ahead of him. What do you think they should do with Pie?

 

Ryan Kalasz

Columbus, Ohio

 

There has been talk that the Cubs would have promoted Pie to play center field this season if a bone bruise in his right ankle hadn't brought his season to an end in mid-June. He also is mentioned among the club's center-field candidates for 2006. While Pie did start to tap into his raw power this year, I think it's too early to count on him helping in the major leagues.

 

Pie is a talented athlete, no question, and he hit .304/.349/.554 with 11 homers and 13 steals in 59 Double-A games this year at age 20. He's the organization's top prospect. But he still has a lot of rough edges to his game. He doesn't walk much, he's rough as a basestealer and he can take erratic routes in center field. Pie has the chance to be a very good player in time, with the key phrase of this sentence being "in time." He needs another season or two in the minors.

 

If they promote him now, the Cubs run the risk of sending the wrong message to Pie, just as they did to Patterson. When Patterson was coming up through the minors, his biggest weaknesses were his strike-zone discipline, his bunting ability and his performance against lefthanders. The Cubs kept saying that Patterson needed to work on those areas, but he kept putting up good overall numbers and they kept rushing him toward Wrigley Field. Patterson made it to the majors at age 21 in 2000 and was a regular by the end of 2001. Pitchers took advantage of Patterson and those same flaws in the majors because he never made adjustments, and now he's coming off a horrible .215/.254/.348 season.

 

Totally agree, the Cubs should look at Patterson and learn from their mistakes.

 

I agree also, but I'm so tired of reading about Patterson's lack of bunting ability as a knock. How many other players have hit 20 HRs in the Southern League and gotten knocked for not bunting well enough?

[Jon]

Felix went 0-2 tonight with a HBP, CS, and sac fly.

 

Marmol struggled to close out the 9th, though:

.2 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 3 BBs, 1 K

[abuck1220]

yeah, the bunting critique is ridiculous. he's not juan pierre...get over it, people.

[CubsWin]

AskBA on Felix:

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/columnists/askba.html

 

As a lifelong Cubs fan, I've learned to live with disappointment and look to the future with the minors. With that said, I'm not sure exactly what to think of Felix Pie. He strikes out at a clip comparable to Corey Patterson and is caught stealing way too much for a person with his speed. This doesn't seem like the answer at leadoff for the Cubs, now or in the future. Patterson was rushed through the minors and never learned how to make adjustments when he needed to. Now he has to learn how to make these adjustments just to remain a big leaguer. Personally, I think the Cubs should sign Johnny Damon and tell Pie he has a couple of more years of seasoning ahead of him. What do you think they should do with Pie?

 

Ryan Kalasz

Columbus, Ohio

 

There has been talk that the Cubs would have promoted Pie to play center field this season if a bone bruise in his right ankle hadn't brought his season to an end in mid-June. He also is mentioned among the club's center-field candidates for 2006. While Pie did start to tap into his raw power this year, I think it's too early to count on him helping in the major leagues.

 

Pie is a talented athlete, no question, and he hit .304/.349/.554 with 11 homers and 13 steals in 59 Double-A games this year at age 20. He's the organization's top prospect. But he still has a lot of rough edges to his game. He doesn't walk much, he's rough as a basestealer and he can take erratic routes in center field. Pie has the chance to be a very good player in time, with the key phrase of this sentence being "in time." He needs another season or two in the minors.

 

If they promote him now, the Cubs run the risk of sending the wrong message to Pie, just as they did to Patterson. When Patterson was coming up through the minors, his biggest weaknesses were his strike-zone discipline, his bunting ability and his performance against lefthanders. The Cubs kept saying that Patterson needed to work on those areas, but he kept putting up good overall numbers and they kept rushing him toward Wrigley Field. Patterson made it to the majors at age 21 in 2000 and was a regular by the end of 2001. Pitchers took advantage of Patterson and those same flaws in the majors because he never made adjustments, and now he's coming off a horrible .215/.254/.348 season.

 

Totally agree, the Cubs should look at Patterson and learn from their mistakes.

 

I agree also, but I'm so tired of reading about Patterson's lack of bunting ability as a knock. How many other players have hit 20 HRs in the Southern League and gotten knocked for not bunting well enough?

Yep. Couldn't agree more. Someone forward this to Mr. Hendry, please...

[Jon]

3 flyouts and a strikeout for Felix tonight.