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If the following statements are all true, how much money does Hendry have to work with this season?

 

1. The Cubs 2006 Opening Day payroll is $105 million. This seems reasonable, as the 05 payroll (including Sammy) is just about $100M.

 

2. Jeromy Burnitz, Glendon Rusch, Scott Williamson all have their options declined (or Rush does the declining in his case).

 

3.Todd Walker's option is picked up. Greg Maddux does not retire.

 

What do the Cubs owe in raises to players that are already under contract?

 

Any help on numbers would be appreciated.

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Todays news have a information on the Cubs might go after Jason Schimth or Brad Radke. But what about players from other low market teams like Marlins Josh Beckett or A's Barry Zito?

 

In addition, what wil be the price to resigned Dempster?

2/10M, 3/15M??

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If the following statements are all true, how much money does Hendry have to work with this season?

 

1. The Cubs 2006 Opening Day payroll is $105 million. This seems reasonable, as the 05 payroll (including Sammy) is just about $100M.

 

2. Jeromy Burnitz, Glendon Rusch, Scott Williamson all have their options declined (or Rush does the declining in his case).

 

3.Todd Walker's option is picked up. Greg Maddux does not retire.

 

What do the Cubs owe in raises to players that are already under contract?

 

Any help on numbers would be appreciated.

 

Ronnie,

 

I looked at this way.

 

These are the current 2006 commitments:

 

Derrek Lee-$8.7M

Aramis Ramirez-$10.5M

Michael Barrett-$4.3M

Mark Prior-$3.0M

Greg Maddux-$9.0M

Kerry Wood-$12.0M

Henry Blanco-$1.5M

Glendon Rusch-$2.0M (player option)

Jeromy Burnitz-$500K (buyout)

 

8 players - $51.5M

 

You figure Carlos Zambrano is not going anywhere, so add him in for $5M. So, 9 players and 56.5M

 

Assuming $100M payroll (safe assumption), the Cubs would have $44M to spend.

 

Major decisions: CF, RF, SS, SP, Closer, Setup

 

team options: Walker, Burnitz, Williamson

free agents: Dempster, Garciaparra, Perez

arbitration eligible: Patterson, Hairston, Macias

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Hey Tim, pretty cool!

CPat20 here has done all the heavy lifting. I've just put the interface & such together. He's gathered all the information and input it. I still owe him a way of inputing trades so that we can ship Hawkins to SF. :D

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Thats good stuff. Thanks for the help. I guess it will be updated shortly with the Dempster signing. The Cubs should be in position to add a couple of $10M+ dollar players this offseason.
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Todays news have a information on the Cubs might go after Jason Schimth or Brad Radke. But what about players from other low market teams like Marlins Josh Beckett or A's Barry Zito?

 

In addition, what wil be the price to resigned Dempster?

2/10M, 3/15M??

 

Welcome to the forums, ittoxx! :D

 

I don't think they've reported the price on resigning Dempster yet.

 

 

That's going to be a great reference for the off-season.

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It would be dumb to decline the opton on Williamson.

 

Would it? He's had 2 Tommy John ops, and hasn't been very effective this season. Maybe he came back too early, but I don't think it would be a dumb move to decline it, depending on how you put together the pen. $2m might not seem like a huge number, but if it means a better, more competitive offer to Giles, then I'd decline it.

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It would be dumb to decline the opton on Williamson.

 

Would it? He's had 2 Tommy John ops, and hasn't been very effective this season. Maybe he came back too early, but I don't think it would be a dumb move to decline it, depending on how you put together the pen. $2m might not seem like a huge number, but if it means a better, more competitive offer to Giles, then I'd decline it.

Yeah right, so we are going to overpay for Giles? With a 105mil payroll 2mil shouldn't matter if used wisely, especially considering when healthy Williamson is a damn good RP.

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It would be dumb to decline the opton on Williamson.

 

Would it? He's had 2 Tommy John ops, and hasn't been very effective this season. Maybe he came back too early, but I don't think it would be a dumb move to decline it, depending on how you put together the pen. $2m might not seem like a huge number, but if it means a better, more competitive offer to Giles, then I'd decline it.

Yeah right, so we are going to overpay for Giles? With a 105mil payroll 2mil shouldn't matter if used wisely, especially considering when healthy Williamson is a damn good RP.

 

When healthy is the key phrase there. He hasn't been healthy in a couple years.

 

$2m on it's own is only about 2% of the Cubs budget, give or take. But last year you saw Perez, Macias and Blanco get overpaid a bit. So it's more of a question of making sure you don't get nickle and dimed out of making a better offer to a more important player.

 

Look at it this way: if Hendry keeps his m.o. from the past 2 years he'll bring back one of Perez/Macias, or some other bench stiff which will waste about $1-2m, and he'll overpay someone else for the bench and someone else for the pen by a million each. That's just one of the things he does-he overpays for his reserves, which is maddening to me on a couple levels. So, now if you pick up Williamson's option, you have now $5-6m tied up where maybe you didn't have to. That *could* make the difference between the Cubs offering $9m or $12m for Giles. I'd rather take the chance that we can find another relivever to fit in the middle of the pen than risk not being able to bid against the other big market teams for the best player on the market this winter, and arguably the 1 player who could do more for this team than any other player.

 

What I'm saying is that you have to allocate your resources wisely, and Williamson's 2% of the budget might be an area you could live without, especially given his health issues in the past and ineffectiveness this season

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It would be dumb to decline the opton on Williamson.

 

Would it? He's had 2 Tommy John ops, and hasn't been very effective this season. Maybe he came back too early, but I don't think it would be a dumb move to decline it, depending on how you put together the pen. $2m might not seem like a huge number, but if it means a better, more competitive offer to Giles, then I'd decline it.

Yeah right, so we are going to overpay for Giles? With a 105mil payroll 2mil shouldn't matter if used wisely, especially considering when healthy Williamson is a damn good RP.

 

When healthy is the key phrase there. He hasn't been healthy in a couple years.

 

$2m on it's own is only about 2% of the Cubs budget, give or take. But last year you saw Perez, Macias and Blanco get overpaid a bit. So it's more of a question of making sure you don't get nickle and dimed out of making a better offer to a more important player.

 

Look at it this way: if Hendry keeps his m.o. from the past 2 years he'll bring back one of Perez/Macias, or some other bench stiff which will waste about $1-2m, and he'll overpay someone else for the bench and someone else for the pen by a million each. That's just one of the things he does-he overpays for his reserves, which is maddening to me on a couple levels. So, now if you pick up Williamson's option, you have now $5-6m tied up where maybe you didn't have to. That *could* make the difference between the Cubs offering $9m or $12m for Giles. I'd rather take the chance that we can find another relivever to fit in the middle of the pen than risk not being able to bid against the other big market teams for the best player on the market this winter, and arguably the 1 player who could do more for this team than any other player.

 

What I'm saying is that you have to allocate your resources wisely, and Williamson's 2% of the budget might be an area you could live without, especially given his health issues in the past and ineffectiveness this season

2mil for Williamson is a pretty wise move. It's when Hendry splurges and overpays bench people that we run into problems. 1year contract is pretty damn good risk for Williamson considering any other setup man will be loking for more years and that hasnt worked out too great for Hendry. Hednry has enough money to pay Giles and then do other things as well.

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What could Williamson command as a free agent? If it's less than $2 million, then we can decline the option and try to sign him at a market rate, maybe a lower base with some incentives a la Nomar.

 

Even with his injuries, I think some team would give him as much or more based on his track record.

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If the following statements are all true, how much money does Hendry have to work with this season?

 

1. The Cubs 2006 Opening Day payroll is $105 million. This seems reasonable, as the 05 payroll (including Sammy) is just about $100M.

 

2. Jeromy Burnitz, Glendon Rusch, Scott Williamson all have their options declined (or Rush does the declining in his case).

 

3.Todd Walker's option is picked up. Greg Maddux does not retire.

 

What do the Cubs owe in raises to players that are already under contract?

 

Any help on numbers would be appreciated.

 

Ronnie,

 

I looked at this way.

 

These are the current 2006 commitments:

 

Derrek Lee-$8.7M

Aramis Ramirez-$10.5M

Michael Barrett-$4.3M

Mark Prior-$3.0M

Greg Maddux-$9.0M

Kerry Wood-$12.0M

Henry Blanco-$1.5M

Glendon Rusch-$2.0M (player option)

Jeromy Burnitz-$500K (buyout)

 

8 players - $51.5M

 

You figure Carlos Zambrano is not going anywhere, so add him in for $5M. So, 9 players and 56.5M

 

Assuming $100M payroll (safe assumption), the Cubs would have $44M to spend.

 

Major decisions: CF, RF, SS, SP, Closer, Setup

 

team options: Walker, Burnitz, Williamson

free agents: Dempster, Garciaparra, Perez

arbitration eligible: Patterson, Hairston, Macias

 

So here is my plan A for the offseason (as of right now, this will change about 20 times between now and Spring Training).

 

Dempster has signed for 5M

Pick up Walker's Option 2.5M

Resign Nomar to 5M + incentives that could go up to 9M

Sign Bobby Howry to a 2 year deal, paying $2.5M in 2006. (or trade for a similar set up man)

Sign Milwood (or trade for a similiar starter) for $10M, or offer him $9M a year for 2 yearss, or $8M a year for 3 years

Sign Brian Giles for $11M in 06, 12M in 07 and 08

Sign Kenny Lofton to a 1-year deal for $3M to keep CF warm for Pie

 

That is $40M guarantted. That should leave $4M to fill out the bench/bullpen. I would also look to deal Patterson for a decent loogy, which should be a wash in terms of salary.

 

Edit to include lineup:

1. Lofton

2. Walker

3. Lee

4. A-Ram

5. Giles

6.Nomar

7. Barrett

8. Murton

 

Starters:

1. Prior

2. Z

3. Milwood

4.Wood

5. Maddux

 

Bullpen includes:

Dempster --- closer

Howry

Novoa/Wuertz

Ohman

Jerome Williams

Loogy

 

Bench includes:

Blanco

Cedeno

Grieve

Hairston

power hitting 1B/3B backup...Branyon?

 

That total payroll is probably about $105M (excluding Nomar's incentives).

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If the following statements are all true, how much money does Hendry have to work with this season?

 

1. The Cubs 2006 Opening Day payroll is $105 million. This seems reasonable, as the 05 payroll (including Sammy) is just about $100M.

 

2. Jeromy Burnitz, Glendon Rusch, Scott Williamson all have their options declined (or Rush does the declining in his case).

 

3.Todd Walker's option is picked up. Greg Maddux does not retire.

 

What do the Cubs owe in raises to players that are already under contract?

 

Any help on numbers would be appreciated.

 

Ronnie,

 

I looked at this way.

 

These are the current 2006 commitments:

 

Derrek Lee-$8.7M

Aramis Ramirez-$10.5M

Michael Barrett-$4.3M

Mark Prior-$3.0M

Greg Maddux-$9.0M

Kerry Wood-$12.0M

Henry Blanco-$1.5M

Glendon Rusch-$2.0M (player option)

Jeromy Burnitz-$500K (buyout)

 

8 players - $51.5M

 

You figure Carlos Zambrano is not going anywhere, so add him in for $5M. So, 9 players and 56.5M

 

Assuming $100M payroll (safe assumption), the Cubs would have $44M to spend.

 

Major decisions: CF, RF, SS, SP, Closer, Setup

 

team options: Walker, Burnitz, Williamson

free agents: Dempster, Garciaparra, Perez

arbitration eligible: Patterson, Hairston, Macias

 

So here is my plan A for the offseason (as of right now, this will change about 20 times between now and Spring Training).

 

Dempster has signed for 5M

Pick up Walker's Option 2.5M

Resign Nomar to 5M + incentives that could go up to 9M

Sign Bobby Howry to a 2 year deal, paying $2.5M in 2006. (or trade for a similar set up man)

Sign Milwood (or trade for a similiar starter) for $10M, or offer him $9M a year for 2 yearss, or $8M a year for 3 years

Sign Brian Giles for $11M in 06, 12M in 07 and 08

Sign Kenny Lofton to a 1-year deal for $3M to keep CF warm for Pie

 

That is $40M guarantted. That should leave $4M to fill out the bench/bullpen. I would also look to deal Patterson for a decent loogy, which should be a wash in terms of salary.

 

Edit to include lineup:

1. Lofton

2. Walker

3. Lee

4. A-Ram

5. Giles

6.Nomar

7. Barrett

8. Murton

 

Starters:

1. Prior

2. Z

3. Milwood

4.Wood

5. Maddux

 

Bullpen includes:

Dempster --- closer

Howry

Novoa/Wuertz

Ohman

Jerome Williams

Loogy

 

Bench includes:

Blanco

Cedeno

Grieve

Hairston

power hitting 1B/3B backup...Branyon?

 

That total payroll is probably about $105M (excluding Nomar's incentives).

 

I like team but I am betting Nomar signs for a million less, I'm also thinking that Lofton gets closer to 1 million than three due to chicago being his hometown and being a baker boy.

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Since I haven't been following very well lately due to my excessive work hours, does the Cubs still have to pay off Sammy's contract, or is that over with?
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Since I haven't been following very well lately due to my excessive work hours, does the Cubs still have to pay off Sammy's contract, or is that over with?

 

That is over now.

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Since I haven't been following very well lately due to my excessive work hours, does the Cubs still have to pay off Sammy's contract, or is that over with?

 

That is over now.

 

That's what I thought as well. That's good, as it freed up some money, somewhat.

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