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I was wondering what players lead in pitches per AB. If it could be lumped with OBP that would be even better.

 

If I understand what you are looking for, go to ESPN, click on stats, hitting and then thumb through the expanded list of stats and you should find P/PA.

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The top 10 qualified in P/PA in the majors is:

 

Bobby Abreu

Casey Blake

Pat Burrell

Brad Wilkerson

Adam Dunn

Gregg Zaun

David Delucci

Jason Giambi

Jimmy Maybelline

Bill Hall

Posted
Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

Posted
Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

 

That would be nice Tim. Don't the Nationals need hitting though?

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Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

 

For some reason I don't like Wilkerson hitting leadoff. In a good lineup, Wilk is a 6-hitter. Even though the power is down this year, he hit 32 out in 04. In Wrigley, I'd have to think that would go up close to that again. I'd hate to have those 32 bombs leading off or coming after the 8 and 9 hitters got out.

Posted
Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

 

I know there is rampant man love for Wilkerson arround here...but doesn't it bother anyone that his average and OBP have regressed for two straight years and that his Average AND OBP are worse than Walker's and would only be right around 6th amongst players I count as potential regulars for next year? (He's behind Lee, Ramirez, Walker, Murton, Cedeno)....I think he'd probably cost to much for the arguably limited return on investment.

 

(Ducks waiting for somene to throw things and yell that Wilkerson is God)

Posted
Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

 

I know there is rampant man love for Wilkerson arround here...but doesn't it bother anyone that his average and OBP have regressed for two straight years and that his Average AND OBP are worse than Walker's and would only be right around 6th amongst players I count as potential regulars for next year? (He's behind Lee, Ramirez, Walker, Murton, Cedeno)....I think he'd probably cost to much for the arguably limited return on investment.

 

(Ducks waiting for somene to throw things and yell that Wilkerson is God)

 

I'm not as high on Wilkerson as some might be, but I still favor him over Murton and especially Cedeno.

Posted
Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

 

I know there is rampant man love for Wilkerson arround here...but doesn't it bother anyone that his average and OBP have regressed for two straight years and that his Average AND OBP are worse than Walker's and would only be right around 6th amongst players I count as potential regulars for next year? (He's behind Lee, Ramirez, Walker, Murton, Cedeno)....I think he'd probably cost to much for the arguably limited return on investment.

 

(Ducks waiting for somene to throw things and yell that Wilkerson is God)

 

To me, the answer to your question is yes. Then again, I've never been overly fond of him.

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I'd like Wilkerson in the 2 slot myself.

 

Do the Cubs have any future lead off guys? I really don't consider Pie one since he doesn't have that good of an Ave/OBP. This is one of the reasons I'd like to see Theriot play once in a blue moon.

Posted
Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

 

I know there is rampant man love for Wilkerson arround here...but doesn't it bother anyone that his average and OBP have regressed for two straight years and that his Average AND OBP are worse than Walker's and would only be right around 6th amongst players I count as potential regulars for next year? (He's behind Lee, Ramirez, Walker, Murton, Cedeno)....I think he'd probably cost to much for the arguably limited return on investment.

 

(Ducks waiting for somene to throw things and yell that Wilkerson is God)

 

I'm not as high on Wilkerson as some might be, but I still favor him over Murton and especially Cedeno.

 

Yeah, Cedeno was a pretty small sample size, but I still like him as a player and luckily they don't play the same spot so they aren't mutually exclusive. Don't get me wrong, Wilkerson is a valuable assett...and a lineup that starts Murton, Wilkerson, Lee and Ramirez is pretty darn interesting...I just don't know if he's worth giving up everything we've got.

Posted
Thanks BbB. Now to look for the best fit for the Cubs and plug him into CF, SS or 2B.

Now batting leadoff and playing CF for your 2006 Chicago Cubs - Brad Wilkerson!

 

I know there is rampant man love for Wilkerson arround here...but doesn't it bother anyone that his average and OBP have regressed for two straight years and that his Average AND OBP are worse than Walker's and would only be right around 6th amongst players I count as potential regulars for next year? (He's behind Lee, Ramirez, Walker, Murton, Cedeno)....I think he'd probably cost to much for the arguably limited return on investment.

 

(Ducks waiting for somene to throw things and yell that Wilkerson is God)

 

To be fair, his OBP from 03-04 only went down because he hit 13 points lower. He walked 17 more times and hit for much more power, and was more productive overall in 04. He's playing his first year in a tough hitter's park. I think he's gonna have a huge comeback year in 06. He was on the upswing and is still young enough that 04 wasn't a fluke.

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The only way Wilkerson is better suited to hit 6th is if you have better OBP guys hitting 1st or 2nd. Nomar is my ideal #6 hitter. High AVG and good OPS. The high average hitting 6th will drive in more runs than the high OBP from base on balls.
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Can we now reverse the question and see how many Cubs are at the top of the list?

 

I fear that most of all Buford.

 

Wouldn't it be ironic if the Cubs did get some of these players near the top and watch them actually decrease their pitch per AB numbers? What would that say I wonder.

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Neifi is 148th out of 151 qualifiers, leading only Vlad Guerrero (who, at 2 decimal places, actually has the same P/PA as him at 3.25), Carl Crawford (3.24 P/PA) and Robinson Cano (3.04!!!!)
Posted
Neifi is 148th out of 151 qualifiers, leading only Vlad Guerrero (who, at 2 decimal places, actually has the same P/PA as him at 3.25), Carl Crawford (3.24 P/PA) and Robinson Cano (3.04!!!!)

 

All of whom are 100000 times better than Neifi. So stats don't tell the whole story

Posted
The difference is that Vlad is good and actually does something when he swings. Unlike Neifi.

 

You have to put the bat on the ball. When they say Neifi is good at DP's they are not kidding...offensively and defensively.

Posted
the ESPN website keeps giving me a 404 when i try and look at non-qualifiers, but I can pretty much guarantee you that Corey and Macias are bottom 10 for people with their respective plate appearances or more.
Posted
Neifi is 148th out of 151 qualifiers, leading only Vlad Guerrero (who, at 2 decimal places, actually has the same P/PA as him at 3.25), Carl Crawford (3.24 P/PA) and Robinson Cano (3.04!!!!)

 

All of whom are 100000 times better than Neifi. So stats don't tell the whole story

Well, one stat alone, at least.

Posted
The difference is that Vlad is good and actually does something when he swings. Unlike Neifi.

 

You have to put the bat on the ball. When they say Neifi is good at DP's they are not kidding...offensively and defensively.

Speaking of which, http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=48867

 

Hooray, 5th worst rate.

 

There are only so many ways you can get rid of that baseclogger at first.

 

I just hope Hendry can get a guy that is on the top of the pitch/AB list on the cheap so the Cubs can get a masher for at least one of the corner OF spots.

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