Great quote by Pujols.....

[Larry Horse]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/6C9E1B148C98E9C18625705F001272CF?OpenDocument

 

"You don't play to win the division, you play to win the championship ring," first baseman Albert Pujols said. "We didn't get it last year. How many Central Division titles does this team have? We don't care about that. It doesn't matter what kind of record we have. Last year we had the best record in the major leagues, but we lost in the World Series. Nobody's talking about (the record). Everybody talks about the world champions. You concentrate on getting back there and winning."

 

Thank you Albert.

 

This is the attitude I wish all Cub fans had.

 

Back-to-back winning seasons and being 5 outs from the World Series are not things to be celebrated.

 

Pujols' first sentence of that quote says it all.

[dalgreen]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/6C9E1B148C98E9C18625705F001272CF?OpenDocument

 

"You don't play to win the division, you play to win the championship ring," first baseman Albert Pujols said. "We didn't get it last year. How many Central Division titles does this team have? We don't care about that. It doesn't matter what kind of record we have. Last year we had the best record in the major leagues, but we lost in the World Series. Nobody's talking about (the record). Everybody talks about the world champions. You concentrate on getting back there and winning."

 

Thank you Albert.

 

This is the attitude I wish all Cub fans had.

 

Back-to-back winning seasons and being 5 outs from the World Series are not things to be celebrated.

 

Pujols' first sentence of that quote says it all.

 

It all comes from the culture of an organization from the top on down. I moved to St. Louis the same year that Anheuser-Busch sold the Cardinals to its current owners. I will never forget Mark Lamping's (Cardinals President) first press conference. He said, "Any season that we are not contending for the division title will be considered a disappointing season." I know that's a little different than what Pujols was saying, but after 11 years, I'm still trying to find a quote by MacPhail that is similar to the one Lamping made.

[Larry Horse]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/6C9E1B148C98E9C18625705F001272CF?OpenDocument

 

"You don't play to win the division, you play to win the championship ring," first baseman Albert Pujols said. "We didn't get it last year. How many Central Division titles does this team have? We don't care about that. It doesn't matter what kind of record we have. Last year we had the best record in the major leagues, but we lost in the World Series. Nobody's talking about (the record). Everybody talks about the world champions. You concentrate on getting back there and winning."

 

Thank you Albert.

 

This is the attitude I wish all Cub fans had.

 

Back-to-back winning seasons and being 5 outs from the World Series are not things to be celebrated.

 

Pujols' first sentence of that quote says it all.

 

It all comes from the culture of an organization from the top on down. I moved to St. Louis the same year that Anheuser-Busch sold the Cardinals to its current owners. I will never forget Mark Lamping's (Cardinals President) first press conference. He said, "Any season that we are not contending for the division title will be considered a disappointing season." I know that's a little different than what Pujols was saying, but after 11 years, I'm still trying to find a quote by MacPhail that is similar to the one Lamping made.

 

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

[JC]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

 

Ain't that the truth. Business man first, baseball fan 345439th. :evil:

[IowaCubsFan]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

 

Amen. This entire organization is one giant sellout.

 

This team will never amount to anything until it stops being a line on a corporation's income statement.

[louisvillecub]

I was watching the Cubs game the other night on FOX Reds network, adn the Cincy announcers were saying that the Cubs would go over 3 million in attendance this year. They then mused "so what motivation does ownership have to improve the team?" They pointed out that even with a very disappointing season, attendance grows.

 

They have a point.

 

Now if they can just learn to correctly pronounce Zam-BRAH-no

 

 

:D

[Tim]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

Good one.

 

Just as a point of note, I don't think there was a good answer for MacPhail to give to that question. Should he have replied that he was proud of the overall losing record? Building a great farm system and having it slowly deteriorate? No answer he could have given about on the field activities would have been satisfactory.

 

He gave about the only legit answer he could have to the question. Now, he could have pushed back on the question and said something along the lines of: "I can't be satisfied with the job I've done to this point because we haven't yet brought home a championship to the city of Chicago" or some other such platitude. But even if he said it, I imagine he'd still receive criticism at that point for his actions not meeting up with his words or some such thing.

 

No-win.

[Tim]

Am I the only one that got JC's joke?

 

Sellout ---- attendance figures???

 

 

I think many only saw one entendre. :D

[Garwilly]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

 

Amen. This entire organization is one giant sellout.

 

This team will never amount to anything until it stops being a line on a corporation's income statement.

 

100 million dollar pyroll is too low? :roll:

[LoneStarCubFan]

The Cardinals ownership wants to win.

 

The Cubs ownership wants to make money.

 

Therein lies the difference. The Trib is really no different than Phil Wrigley was in that respect.

[dalgreen]

The Cardinals ownership wants to win.

 

The Cubs ownership wants to make money.

 

Therein lies the difference. The Trib is really no different than Phil Wrigley was in that respect.

 

Your opinion would be more valid if the Cub ownership allocated less money to Hendry than what Cardinal ownership allocates to Jocketty. Or do you think they gave Hendry $100 million and told him, "spend it unwisely."

[gus_dog]

Am I the only one that got JC's joke?

 

Sellout ---- attendance figures???

 

 

I think many only saw one entendre. :D

 

The duplicative nature of the comment was not lost on myself. I enjoy that type of banter.

[Magnetic Curses]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

 

Amen. This entire organization is one giant sellout.

 

This team will never amount to anything until it stops being a line on a corporation's income statement.

 

100 million dollar pyroll is too low? :roll:

 

i guess, for some.

 

but it's still very popular to blame the trib, even though they've pumped plenty of money into this franchise over the past few years. one thing they are not willing to do would be to take a loss, which is understandable given that they have stockholders.

 

the trib will NEVER divert funds from other holdings to field an all-star team, the chicago war chest is not infinite, and it's not the trib's fault that hendry brought back macias and neifi or that hollandsworth started in left field for much of the year. this is a badly run baseball team, and the only problem i have with the trib corp is that it hasn't fired macphail yet.

[MustangMike]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/6C9E1B148C98E9C18625705F001272CF?OpenDocument

 

"You don't play to win the division, you play to win the championship ring," first baseman Albert Pujols said. "We didn't get it last year. How many Central Division titles does this team have? We don't care about that. It doesn't matter what kind of record we have. Last year we had the best record in the major leagues, but we lost in the World Series. Nobody's talking about (the record). Everybody talks about the world champions. You concentrate on getting back there and winning."

 

Thank you Albert.

 

This is the attitude I wish all Cub fans had.

 

Back-to-back winning seasons and being 5 outs from the World Series are not things to be celebrated.

 

Pujols' first sentence of that quote says it all.

 

Who cares about the fans, I wish the players had this attitude.

[LoneStarCubFan]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

 

Amen. This entire organization is one giant sellout.

 

This team will never amount to anything until it stops being a line on a corporation's income statement.

 

100 million dollar pyroll is too low? :roll:

 

The Cubs had an 87 million dollar payroll this season. Not 100 million. I can't believe people let MacPhail and Co. get away with that line of garbage all season.

[LoneStarCubFan]

The Cardinals ownership wants to win.

 

The Cubs ownership wants to make money.

 

Therein lies the difference. The Trib is really no different than Phil Wrigley was in that respect.

 

Your opinion would be more valid if the Cub ownership allocated less money to Hendry than what Cardinal ownership allocates to Jocketty. Or do you think they gave Hendry $100 million and told him, "spend it unwisely."

 

The Trib has more in the way of resources than the Cardinals will ever have, yet the Cardinals run rings around the Cubs when it comes to scouting, development, etc. because the Trib will pour in just enough to be competitive and keep the fans coming back.

 

You can't just look at player salaries. You have to look at the entire organization.

[JC]

Am I the only one that got JC's joke?

 

Sellout ---- attendance figures???

 

 

I think many only saw one entendre. :D

 

The duplicative nature of the comment was not lost on myself. I enjoy that type of banter.

 

Are you wearing a smoking jacket and holding a snifter of brandy?

[CuseCubFan69]

Am I the only one that got JC's joke?

 

Sellout ---- attendance figures???

 

 

I think many only saw one entendre. :D

 

The duplicative nature of the comment was not lost on myself. I enjoy that type of banter.

 

Are you wearing a smoking jacket and holding a snifter of brandy?

 

Did somebody say rat?

[gus_dog]

Am I the only one that got JC's joke?

 

Sellout ---- attendance figures???

 

 

I think many only saw one entendre. :D

 

The duplicative nature of the comment was not lost on myself. I enjoy that type of banter.

 

Are you wearing a smoking jacket and holding a snifter of brandy?

 

Did somebody say rat?

 

:lol:

[SouthSideRyan]

I heard an interview with Andy on the Score and Ofman asked him what he was most proud of during his tenure, and his response was the attendance records.

 

Spoken like a sellout.

 

Amen. This entire organization is one giant sellout.

 

This team will never amount to anything until it stops being a line on a corporation's income statement.

 

100 million dollar pyroll is too low? :roll:

 

The Cubs had an 87 million dollar payroll this season. Not 100 million. I can't believe people let MacPhail and Co. get away with that line of garbage all season.

 

Yeah, if they really cared about winning they would've kept Sosa! That way they could've had an even greater sinkhole in the OF and had a 100 million dollar payroll. Then they'd care about winning to you, and that's all that matters.

[frostwyrm]

 

The Cubs had an 87 million dollar payroll this season. Not 100 million. I can't believe people let MacPhail and Co. get away with that line of garbage all season.

 

Yeah, if they really cared about winning they would've kept Sosa! That way they could've had an even greater sinkhole in the OF and had a 100 million dollar payroll. Then they'd care about winning to you, and that's all that matters.

 

Good point. People who say paying off bad contracts shouldn't count on payrolls should consider the alternative.

[JC]

 

The Cubs had an 87 million dollar payroll this season. Not 100 million. I can't believe people let MacPhail and Co. get away with that line of garbage all season.

 

Yeah, if they really cared about winning they would've kept Sosa! That way they could've had an even greater sinkhole in the OF and had a 100 million dollar payroll. Then they'd care about winning to you, and that's all that matters.

 

Good point. People who say paying off bad contracts shouldn't count on payrolls should consider the alternative.

 

What alternative, that we kept Sosa and his salary? While I acknowledge Sosa's massive decline, Jeromy Burnitz didn't lead us anywhere to speak of. The organization's obsession with moving Sosa was an obvious distraction to bettering this team. While the club fielded an $87M team with respect to the "talent" under contract, it is unfair to blur the line and call it a $100M team that is inflated due to bad business decisions. Their may be $100M in expenditures toward the 2005 budget, but their isn't close to $100M in talent on the team. That is why its a lie in the context in which it has sometimes been used.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

 

The Cubs had an 87 million dollar payroll this season. Not 100 million. I can't believe people let MacPhail and Co. get away with that line of garbage all season.

 

Yeah, if they really cared about winning they would've kept Sosa! That way they could've had an even greater sinkhole in the OF and had a 100 million dollar payroll. Then they'd care about winning to you, and that's all that matters.

 

Good point. People who say paying off bad contracts shouldn't count on payrolls should consider the alternative.

 

What alternative, that we kept Sosa and his salary? While I acknowledge Sosa's massive decline, Jeromy Burnitz didn't lead us anywhere to speak of. The organization's obsession with moving Sosa was an obvious distraction to bettering this team. While the club fielded an $87M team with respect to the "talent" under contract, it is unfair to blur the line and call it a $100M team that is inflated due to bad business decisions. Their may be $100M in expenditures toward the 2005 budget, but their isn't close to $100M in talent on the team. That is why its a lie in the context in which it has sometimes been used.

 

100 million in talent? We're paying Zambrano and Prior a combined 7 million. The point that LoneStar made was that the "illusion" of a 100 million dollar payroll is the fault of the Trib. If you want to say the talent doesn't reflect the payroll, then blame Hendry. The Trib isn't at fault.

[JC]

 

The Cubs had an 87 million dollar payroll this season. Not 100 million. I can't believe people let MacPhail and Co. get away with that line of garbage all season.

 

Yeah, if they really cared about winning they would've kept Sosa! That way they could've had an even greater sinkhole in the OF and had a 100 million dollar payroll. Then they'd care about winning to you, and that's all that matters.

 

Good point. People who say paying off bad contracts shouldn't count on payrolls should consider the alternative.

 

What alternative, that we kept Sosa and his salary? While I acknowledge Sosa's massive decline, Jeromy Burnitz didn't lead us anywhere to speak of. The organization's obsession with moving Sosa was an obvious distraction to bettering this team. While the club fielded an $87M team with respect to the "talent" under contract, it is unfair to blur the line and call it a $100M team that is inflated due to bad business decisions. Their may be $100M in expenditures toward the 2005 budget, but their isn't close to $100M in talent on the team. That is why its a lie in the context in which it has sometimes been used.

 

100 million in talent? We're paying Zambrano and Prior a combined 7 million. The point that LoneStar made was that the "illusion" of a 100 million dollar payroll is the fault of the Trib. If you want to say the talent doesn't reflect the payroll, then blame Hendry. The Trib isn't at fault.

 

:scratch:

 

I must have missed something. My intention wasn't to fault anyone for the amount of money spent. Rather, I was just agreeing that the roster isn't a $100M roster as some in the organization have tried to argue.