Ex-Cub Update

[rynesrevenge0206]

I was bored so I put this together.....

 

 

Matt Lawton (Yanks): .108 (4-37), 1 HR, 2 RBI

No big loss here. I'm glad we got a marginal pitching prospect for that.

 

Latroy Hawkins (Giants): 3.94 ERA, 1.37 WHIP, 2/5 Saves

Amazingly, he's been worse as a Giant than as a Cub. He's blown 10% more saves (in a limited role, of course) and his WHIP is up.

 

Todd Hollandsworth (Braves): 2-16, 6 Ks in PH role (.125)

Looks like the doubters were right about Holla coming into this year.

 

Mike Remlinger (Red Sox; DFA): 14.85 ERA (11 ER in 6+ IP)

Five walks and two HR allowed in 6 innings is a recipe for disatser, Mike.

 

Jody Gerut (Pirates): .222 (4-18) before landing on DL.

OUCH.

 

Sammy Sosa (O's): .221, 14 HR, 45 RBI, 2 DL stints

I'm lovin it. :lol:

 

 

I wonder how much worse we'd be this year if we had kept these losers.

[rocket]

 

 

I wonder how much worse we'd be this year if we had kept these losers.

 

we'd be so bad we'd probably be under .500

[TB_11]

An addition:

 

Jason Dubois: 45 ABs in 14 games for the Indians. .222/.300/.356. 25 SOs.

[otis89]

Unfortunately, not everything works out that way.

 

Joe Borowski (Devil Rays)

1-3 2.39 ERA

 

He started off doing very good for the Devil Rays, but had a couple of bad outings as result of being used way too often. He pitched every day Aug 26-28, Aug. 30, Sep. 2, Sep. 4, Sep. 7, and Sep. 10. If that isn't overworking a pitcher, I don't know what is.

 

Kyle Farnsworth (Tigers & Braves)

1-1 2.32 ERA 6/8 in saves as a Tiger

0-0 1.06 ERA 5/5 in saves as a Brave

 

I'm so glad we got rid of that washed-up bum and that head case.

[sweetpeteman]

Farns is now 6/6 in save opportunities after another 123 inning in Washington.

[Mike Aller]

Jody Gerut isn't a loser.

 

He needs ABs. He did pretty well in his rookie year, had some small injury problems last year, but wasn't doing all too horrible this year for the tribe.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Unfortunately, not everything works out that way.

 

Joe Borowski (Devil Rays)

1-3 2.39 ERA

 

He started off doing very good for the Devil Rays, but had a couple of bad outings as result of being used way too often. He pitched every day Aug 26-28, Aug. 30, Sep. 2, Sep. 4, Sep. 7, and Sep. 10. If that isn't overworking a pitcher, I don't know what is.

 

Kyle Farnsworth (Tigers & Braves)

1-1 2.32 ERA 6/8 in saves as a Tiger

0-0 1.06 ERA 5/5 in saves as a Brave

 

I'm so glad we got rid of that washed-up bum and that head case.

 

Farns went to a place where there was little pressure (Detroit) and got his act together. We saw flashes of it in Chicago...it's no surprise that he's figured it out.

 

Letting Borowski go was a bad decision, IMO. We gave up on him too quickly.

 

Oh well. That stuff happens all the time to even the best of GMs and scouts.

 

I'm not so worried about what we gave up...not so much. It's what we've acquired in the last year that worries me...we got nothin'.

[JD42K]

I'll be convinced we lost something in Farnsworth when he puts together 2 years of good pitching. And Scott Moore looks like he might be a decent prospect.

[Balsa]

I don't think there was a poster here who could have predicted that JoBo and Da Farns would have done so well outside of Chicago.

 

Having said that, I'm really happy with our people we 'let go'. I just wish we'd do it a bit more often (Macias anyone?)

[treebird]

I don't think there was a poster here who could have predicted that JoBo and Da Farns would have done so well outside of Chicago.

 

Having said that, I'm really happy with our people we 'let go'. I just wish we'd do it a bit more often (Macias anyone?)

 

I think a lot of people thought that Farnsworth would have a good year no matter he was pitching, let alone if he went to Atlanta.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I'll be convinced we lost something in Farnsworth when he puts together 2 years of good pitching. And Scott Moore looks like he might be a decent prospect.

 

Most everyone was ready to see Farnsworth go, he had chance after chance here and for whatever reason, could never get his act together. So he eventually figures it out elsewhere, bully for him. We gave him SIX YEARS in Chicago for crying out loud, and he managed just one good year and one decent year for us in that entire time.

 

And, while Scott Moore had a strong year at a low level, the value in that trade for us was Roberto Novoa. He looks like a perfectly useable middle reliever/setup man, the role Farnsworth was SUPPOSED to fill for us. If we still get that production, just from a different (and younger) guy, then who cares what Kyle does for another team.

 

It was a good trade.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Farnsworth 2004: 1.50 WHIP, 10.53 K/9, 2.36 K/BB

 

Conclusion: Head case, get him out of here, too inconsistent

 

Novoa 2005: 1.50 WHIP, 9.51 K/9, 1.8 K/BB

 

Conclusion: Promising middle relief prospect

 

Anyone seeing the problem here?

[CoolHandLuke]

I am suprised nobody has mentioned Andy Sisco, even though he is not technically an ex-cub.

 

 

69.1 IP 58 hits 39 walks 70 k's 2.60 ERA

 

A lot of walks but still an awesome year considering the fact that he hadn't pitched above A ball.

 

It will be interesting to see what the Royals do with him next year. He has shown that he deserves a chance to be in their pen but his talent would probably be better utilized if they sent him down to the minors to get him working as a starter again.

[imb]

I am suprised nobody has mentioned Andy Sisco, even though he is not technically an ex-cub.

 

 

69.1 IP 58 hits 39 walks 70 k's 2.60 ERA

 

A lot of walks but still an awesome year considering the fact that he hadn't pitched above A ball.

 

It will be interesting to see what the Royals do with him next year. He has shown that he deserves a chance to be in their pen but his talent would probably be better utilized if they sent him down to the minors to get him working as a starter again.

 

There's a nice, huge Andy Sisco thread around here somewhere.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

I'll be convinced we lost something in Farnsworth when he puts together 2 years of good pitching. And Scott Moore looks like he might be a decent prospect.

 

Most everyone was ready to see Farnsworth go, he had chance after chance here and for whatever reason, could never get his act together.

That's not even close to being true and you know it. Check out the trade thread from last year and you will see a bunch of people saying that they didn't want Kyle traded. I was one of them.

[SAMMYWHO]

Farnsworth had potential still when we traded him but he was part of the gutting of cancers last off-season. Novoa has been reliable but not as dominating as Farnsworth. Which Farnsworth was coming into the game was the question. The 100 mile an hour you can touch it or the 4 straight sliders that were balls. At least Novoa shows some consistency.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Man, that gutting of the cancers really worked, didn't it!!

[treebird]

Man, that gutting of the cancers really worked, didn't it!!

 

dum moneyball

[biittner77]

Man, that gutting of the cancers really worked, didn't it!!

 

The gutting of cancers wasn't bad. It was the replacing them with mediocrity that hurt.

[sonofsamiam]

Man, that gutting of the cancers really worked, didn't it!!

 

The gutting of cancers wasn't bad. It was the replacing them with mediocrity that hurt.

 

The above is so true it hurts.

 

As far as Farnsworth, we should all know by now that he's effective in odd years and awful in even years. :wink:

[LoneStarCubFan]

The Dontrelle Willis deal is close to reaching Brock for Broglio status.

[CuseCubFan69]

The Dontrelle Willis deal is close to reaching Brock for Broglio status.

 

If he makes the Hall of Fame I'll agree with you. Again, 2003 was the worst thing that could happen to the Cubs and it started the second Hendry hired Baker.

[hardcorecubfan]

The Dontrelle Willis deal is close to reaching Brock for Broglio status.

 

agreed, it wouldn't look so bad if we kept Clement for another two years.

[goonys evil twin]

The Dontrelle Willis deal is close to reaching Brock for Broglio status.

 

agreed, it wouldn't look so bad if we kept Clement for another two years.

 

Who did they end up getting in the draft for compensation from losing Clement. Because as far as I can tell that would be the only chance for Hendry's first trade not being a total disaster.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The Dontrelle Willis deal is close to reaching Brock for Broglio status.

 

agreed, it wouldn't look so bad if we kept Clement for another two years.

 

Who did they end up getting in the draft for compensation from losing Clement. Because as far as I can tell that would be the only chance for Hendry's first trade not being a total disaster.

 

RHP Mike Billek, UCF. He pitched at Boise and Peoria this year.