Pinella rumors?

[Larry Horse]

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-spflash284401963aug28,0,7954110.column?coll=ny-sports-print

 

" Possible landing spots for Piniella might include Baltimore, Philadelphia or Chicago's North Side."

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Let me go record saying I want no part of Piniella managing this team.

[AAApittsburgh]

It would be so Cubs-like, wouldn't it? Finally get rid of Dusty and end up getting a guy who is just as bad as Dusty to replace him.

[Mike Aller]

I like Piniella. :oops:

[imb]

i will quit.

[CuseCubFan69]

I know Lou has a veteran fetish at TB..of all places, how was he when he was competing for first with Seattle?

[hardcorecubfan]

Let me go record saying I want no part of Piniella managing this team.

 

100 percent in agreement, we don't need a jerk like that..He is classless

[USSoccer]

Ugh. Just Say No.....

[RynoRules]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

[Garwilly]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Before arriving here, all Dusty did was win.

[RynoRules]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Before arriving here, all Dusty did was win.

 

Piniella has won a WS and his teams in Seattle were constatntly on the cusp of greatness. Dusty has been to a WS, but all other times in the playoffs w/ the Giants were busts. Look back at the 1st rnd series vs. the Mets in 00' as example 1A. Valentine made him look a guy coaching a Div. III team.

 

My point is that Piniella has been a lot more succesful - and clearly knows how to manage a picthing staff, especially a bullpen.

[CuseCubFan69]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Before arriving here, all Dusty did was win.

 

Piniella has won a WS and his teams in Seattle were constatntly on the cusp of greatness. Dusty has been to a WS, but all other times in the playoffs w/ the Giants were busts. Look back at the 1st rnd series vs. the Mets in 00' as example 1A. Valentine made him look a guy coaching a Div. III team.

 

My point is that Piniella has been a lot more succesful - and clearly knows how to manage a picthing staff, especially a bullpen.

 

I know a lot of division 3 coaches that are better than Baker.

[brfahey]

What is the problem with Piniella? Leaving Dusty's pluses and minuses to one side, what are the factors that make Piniella not desirable. he is very fiery, which this sleepwalking bunch could use. He has won before, including the World Series with a heavy underdog team (and beat laRussa for good measure).

 

I am not saying go out and get this guy, but if we were in the market, he'd be near the top of the list.

 

Just a final thought: playing vets over young players is not, in and of itself, a bad way to go. It's only a bad way to go if the vets aren't as good as the rookies. Case by case analysis is needed.

[AAApittsburgh]

What is the problem with Piniella? Leaving Dusty's pluses and minuses to one side, what are the factors that make Piniella not desirable. he is very fiery, which this sleepwalking bunch could use. He has won before, including the World Series with a heavy underdog team (and beat laRussa for good measure).

 

I am not saying go out and get this guy, but if we were in the market, he'd be near the top of the list.

 

Just a final thought: playing vets over young players is not, in and of itself, a bad way to go. It's only a bad way to go if the vets aren't as good as the rookies. Case by case analysis is needed.

Well, isn't that what Piniella does? He'd actually play a kid out of position just to fit some veteran retread in the lineup. That's bad. I've seen enough D'Rays games down here to know that he just isn't a very good manager.

[SouthSideRyan]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Piniella's career winning % pre-Tampa is lower than Dusty's career winning %.

[RynoRules]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Piniella's career winning % pre-Tampa is lower than Dusty's career winning %.

 

That's slightly scewed by the fact that Piniella has been managing quite a bit longer - six seasons longer, actually. My point (again) is that Piniella wins in the playoffs, where Dusty has had his most embarassing moments.

 

I do not think it is fair to compare the two simply on the basis that they both prefer vets over younder guys. You never hear Piniella making excuses for his guys like "its hot", or "we had to play a lot of games in a row w/out a day off". He does not suffer that nonsense.

[illiniguy]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Piniella's career winning % pre-Tampa is lower than Dusty's career winning %.

 

That's slightly scewed by the fact that Piniella has been managing quite a bit longer - six seasons longer, actually. My point (again) is that Piniella wins in the playoffs, where Dusty has had his most embarassing moments.

 

I do not think it is fair to compare the two simply on the basis that they both prefer vets over younder guys. You never hear Piniella making excuses for his guys like "its hot", or "we had to play a lot of games in a row w/out a day off". He does not suffer that nonsense.

or scewed by the fact that Baker managed Barry Lamar Bonds before Chicago.

[SouthSideRyan]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Piniella's career winning % pre-Tampa is lower than Dusty's career winning %.

 

That's slightly scewed by the fact that Piniella has been managing quite a bit longer - six seasons longer, actually. My point (again) is that Piniella wins in the playoffs, where Dusty has had his most embarassing moments.

 

I do not think it is fair to compare the two simply on the basis that they both prefer vets over younder guys. You never hear Piniella making excuses for his guys like "its hot", or "we had to play a lot of games in a row w/out a day off". He does not suffer that nonsense.

 

I'd say not making the world series with a 116 win team is pretty embarrassing.

[RynoRules]

I can understand not wanting Lou b/cof his Dusty-like dislike for younger guys. But all the guy did prior to arriving in that baseball cespool that is Tropicana Field was win, and win at level that Dusty can only dream of.

 

Piniella's career winning % pre-Tampa is lower than Dusty's career winning %.

 

That's slightly scewed by the fact that Piniella has been managing quite a bit longer - six seasons longer, actually. My point (again) is that Piniella wins in the playoffs, where Dusty has had his most embarassing moments.

 

I do not think it is fair to compare the two simply on the basis that they both prefer vets over younder guys. You never hear Piniella making excuses for his guys like "its hot", or "we had to play a lot of games in a row w/out a day off". He does not suffer that nonsense.

 

I'd say not making the world series with a 116 win team is pretty embarrassing.

 

If that's how you define embarassing, then there isn't much I can say in retort. And you are missing the point of my post.