So what's your batting order when Nomar comes back?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Nomar is gone to me. I really don't expect him to play the rest of the year. If he does, great, but I'm not going to get excited about someone coming back from ripping their groin off the bone to play shortstop.

 

Walker

Barrett

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Dubois(if I'm making the lineup, then I'm playing the best LF we have)

Nomar

Hairston(Nomar and Hairston are interchangeable)

 

If Corey returns, stick him 7th and bump Nomar to 8th.

[gus_dog]

Hairston

Garciaparra

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Barrett

Burnitz

Hollandsworth

 

 

Not a bad lineup if healthy

[CUBZ99]

Pie

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Nomar

Burnitz

Barrett

Holly/Murton

[UK1679666180]

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Nomar (under the assumption he is healthy and hit in his rehab stint)

Burnitz

Murton

Barrett

[goonys evil twin]

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Nomar (under the assumption he is healthy and hit in his rehab stint)

Burnitz

Murton

Barrett

 

I think I'd go

 

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Nomar (under the assumption he is healthy and hit in his rehab stint)

Murton

Barrett

 

I don't trust Nomar to be the guy responsible for bringing in Lee and Ramirez, and basically I think if he does come back he'll be worse than Burnitz.

[nilodnayr]

Hairston

Walker

Lee

ARAM

Huff--yeah I'm still wearing my believe bracelet

Nomar

Burnitz

Barrett

[UK1679666180]

Burnitz has been the hitter in MLB with the highest ratio of ABs with runners on base, he's not even on pace for 100 RBIs despite that stat.

 

Nomar (healthy) is better at driving in runs than Burnitz.

[goonys evil twin]

Burnitz has been the hitter in MLB with the highest ratio of ABs with runners on base, he's not even on pace for 100 RBIs despite that stat.

 

Nomar (healthy) is better at driving in runs than Burnitz.

 

But that's old Nomar. Much long ago Nomar. Nomar of the past. This is going to be a slower, much less productive version of Nomar.

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

Burnitz has been the hitter in MLB with the highest ratio of ABs with runners on base, he's not even on pace for 100 RBIs despite that stat.

 

Nomar (healthy) is better at driving in runs than Burnitz.

 

But that's old Nomar. Much long ago Nomar. Nomar of the past. This is going to be a slower, much less productive version of Nomar.

 

We shall call him "Macias".

[MembersOnlyJacket]

What about a lineup with both Patterson and Garciaparra ?

 

Walker

Garciaparra

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Murton/Hollandsworth

Patterson

Barrett

 

?

 

Otherwise:

 

Hairston

Walker

Garciaparra

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Murton

Barrett

[sonicdethmonkey0]

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Nomar (under the assumption he is healthy and hit in his rehab stint)

Burnitz

Murton

Barrett

 

I think I'd go

 

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Nomar (under the assumption he is healthy and hit in his rehab stint)

Murton

Barrett

 

I don't trust Nomar to be the guy responsible for bringing in Lee and Ramirez, and basically I think if he does come back he'll be worse than Burnitz.

 

me too, goony. i was gonna post the same lineup.

[Cubfanintheknow]

I'd bat Nomar in the seven hole. You know he's only going to get four starts per week as he's eased into an everyday role. This way he and Perez (and you just know it's going to be Neifi and not Cedeno) can be interchangeable in the lineup without having to juggle everyone else.

[MikeyLikesCubbies]

What about a lineup with both Patterson and Garciaparra ?

 

Walker

Garciaparra

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Murton/Hollandsworth

Patterson

Barrett

 

?

 

Otherwise:

 

Hairston

Walker

Garciaparra

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Murton

Barrett

 

Even if Patterson comes back, I keep Hairston in the leadoff role, and maybe move him to left. In 03' Lofton showed what a real leadoff hitter can add- and Hairston is the closest thing we have. I have a feeling Hairston is going to get hot in the second half finally getting regular playing time.

[Blueheart05]

IF Nomar comes back I put him in at the bottom of the lineup (7th or 8th) until he gets his timing back. Under no circumstances would I bat him third because I want Derrek to get as many at bats as possible in a given game. If he were to get hot I would bat him 2nd in front of D Lee so that there was a greater potential for an RBI. Walker would either be moved to 1st or 5th (ahead of Burny but behind Ram). Something like this:

 

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Barrett

Murton

Garciaparra

Pitcher

 

OR

 

Walker

Garciaparra

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Barrett

Murton

Hairston

Pitcher

 

OR

 

Hairston

Garciaparra

Lee

Ramirez

Walker

Burnitz

Barrett

Murton

Pitcher

[SouthSideRyan]

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Burnitz

Nomar

Barrett

LF

 

And I'm really sick of snide comments/awful jokes about the Cubs training staff when O' Neal has not had a single Groeschner like incident.

[OldHappyCubFan]

See guys, basically what happens, is Nomar DH's a little bit in the minors, and gets his swing back, then they ease him onto the field to play some defense. So all in all I think he'll be eased back into the swing of things.

[Bull]

I think starting out, he'll be the first option off the bench. If recovery is slow, he could remain there.

[ZZ Thorn]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050713cubs,1,2481331.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

 

Holy cow, Nomar's actually coming back.

 

"Out since April 21 after surgery to repair torn muscles in his left groin, Garciaparra is expected to begin a minor-league rehab stint within the next week or two in hopes of returning to the Cubs in early August.

 

Prior came back from his elbow injury without a rehab stint in the minors, but Garciaparra said he needs one to get his timing back.

 

"I'll probably go just to have a few games," he said...."

 

I stuck a fork in him when it happened, but he'll be in the minors in a couple weeks! I can't believe he's actually coming back this year!

 

I don't think Nomar is better than Walker at the #2 hole - I like him 5-7, definitely not second.

[JC]

Hairston

Walker

Lee

ARam

Nomar

Burnitz

Murton

Barrett

 

Provided Nomar returns truly healthy, of which I am highly skeptical, he would be able to protect ARam at least as good as Burnitz.

 

Of course, Neifi will play for Walker against lefties, and swap out Nomar against many righties...

[badgercub]

"IF" Nomar does return does that mean Macias is gone? or does Ronny get sent back down? Personall I would rather see Macias go, but then you really don't have anyone to back up third base so I assume Cedeno would get sent down.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Hairston

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Dunn

Barrett

Burnitz

Garciaparra

[CUBZ99]

"IF" Nomar does return does that mean Macias is gone? or does Ronny get sent back down? Personall I would rather see Macias go, but then you really don't have anyone to back up third base so I assume Cedeno would get sent down.

 

I'm sure that Cedeno will get sent down. He is not exactly excelling in a backup role.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

"IF" Nomar does return does that mean Macias is gone? or does Ronny get sent back down? Personall I would rather see Macias go, but then you really don't have anyone to back up third base so I assume Cedeno would get sent down.

 

I'm sure that Cedeno will get sent down. He is not exactly excelling in a backup role.

 

Yeah. 1 for 16 since his callup. 17 PA's in 13 games, sheesh.

[JC]

"IF" Nomar does return does that mean Macias is gone? or does Ronny get sent back down? Personall I would rather see Macias go, but then you really don't have anyone to back up third base so I assume Cedeno would get sent down.

 

I'm sure that Cedeno will get sent down. He is not exactly excelling in a backup role.

 

Yeah. 1 for 16 since his callup. 17 PA's in 13 games, sheesh.

 

That sure doesn't live up to the 17 hits Dusty got in his first 8 ABs.

[hawkeyecub]

However, even if he did come back, I still wouldn't expect much. He was below average defensively, and will be worse. And he won't be much of an offensive threat.

 

The bottom line is, don't count on Nomar to be the difference between the sub .500 start and a playoff push in the second half. He'll be a small role player at best if he even does come back

 

You simply can't make those statements with that level of certainty, just because Mike Piazza had a similar injury.

 

No one knows what we'll get from Nomar. You don't think he'll produce much. Some people think he could be a huge boost. I think he can produce close to the same level he did with the Cubs last year.

 

But to say that "he'll be a small role player at best" and "he won't be much of an offensive threat" like you're working with Nomar on his rehab is simply off base.

 

My wife is a D.P.T. and whenever we're discussing injuries like this, the first thing that always comes out is "Every person is different" and that you can't make a diagnosis from 1,000 miles away when you've never seen the athlete. Nomar's body could be able to handle the injury better than Piazza did. They have different swings, play different positions, different body-types and likely were/are in different shape.

 

The fact is that right now, no one knows what Nomar we'll be getting. Not even you. The physicians and trainers working with him right now are the only ones who have an idea as to how ready he'll be and where his body will be in 2.5 weeks.