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11 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I love Owen Caissie more than anyone, but "hell of a price tag" was a borderline top-50 prospect, let's pump the brakes, man. Owen Caissie has plenty of swing and miss in his game. And we should know better than to flip out about prospects that get traded and their first month of action. 

Cabrera is a bit of a risk, but was in a bad pitching org for much of his career. The Marlins are on the right track there right now, and they started to really figure it out last year (also coincides with his best run). 

So how about we take a deep breath right now. Maybe Caissie is a star and Cabrera sucks. Or maybe Caissie runs a 30% K rate and doesn't figure it out and Cabrera turns into a solid SP. We have no idea. Hot take statements can make you look real silly in the count of a few weeks when we're talking the first weekend and when one of them hasn't thrown a pitch yet.

I understand the reasoning why they made the move - they were desperate to get a cost controlled, talented guy that has upside, which allowed them to use that money in free agency.  I guess I'm just not as optimistic about that particular move as I am some of the other moves they've made.  It's too early to tell for sure.

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33 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

I love Owen Caissie more than anyone, but "hell of a price tag" was a borderline top-50 prospect, let's pump the brakes, man. Owen Caissie has plenty of swing and miss in his game. And we should know better than to flip out about prospects that get traded and their first month of action. 

Cabrera is a bit of a risk, but was in a bad pitching org for much of his career. The Marlins are on the right track there right now, and they started to really figure it out last year (also coincides with his best run). 

So how about we take a deep breath right now. Maybe Caissie is a star and Cabrera sucks. Or maybe Caissie runs a 30% K rate and doesn't figure it out and Cabrera turns into a solid SP. We have no idea. Hot take statements can make you look real silly in the count of a few weeks when we're talking the first weekend and when one of them hasn't thrown a pitch yet.

Cabrera is a high-risk, high-upside player, and I think Caissie is similar.  It's really hard to know what either of these guys will turn into, upside for either could be WAR into the 3's, or either could be an average MLB player (or possibly worse).  We needed another solid SP and had a full OF so the trade is fine.  Being low on Cabrera because he sucked in some ST starts makes no sense.

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I'm sorry about making a somber post but my father passed away on Friday. He was the person who got me into Cubs baseball. My favorite memories of him was the two of us watching Cubs baseball and opening boxes of cards. He loved pulling Andre Dawson cards back in the day. My favorite pull was Ryne Sandberg. 

When most of us was filled with "glass case of emotions" during the 2016 World Series, he was the most even keeled Cubs fan I knew. If he ever got nervous about that series, he never showed it. I'm glad he got to see 2016. 

Watching Cubs baseball is helping me through my grief. 

Again, I want to apologize for the somber post but I needed a place to vent a little bit. 

RIP Dad. 

 

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2 hours ago, PeanutPunch33 said:

I understand the reasoning why they made the move - they were desperate to get a cost controlled, talented guy that has upside, which allowed them to use that money in free agency.  I guess I'm just not as optimistic about that particular move as I am some of the other moves they've made.  It's too early to tell for sure.

I don't think they were "desperate" so much as Cabrera does a bunch of what the Cubs like and the swap made sense. We have OF'ers who are young and we need some SP. The Marlins clearly liked Caissie dating back to last year (which I get, I like Caissie too). 

I think we'll all be fine with the trade when it's all said and done. Edwin Cabrera is fun. Guys who throw 99mph with a 94 mph changeup don't grow on trees.

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1 hour ago, NorthsideAvenger said:

I'm sorry about making a somber post but my father passed away on Friday. He was the person who got me into Cubs baseball. My favorite memories of him was the two of us watching Cubs baseball and opening boxes of cards. He loved pulling Andre Dawson cards back in the day. My favorite pull was Ryne Sandberg. 

When most of us was filled with "glass case of emotions" during the 2016 World Series, he was the most even keeled Cubs fan I knew. If he ever got nervous about that series, he never showed it. I'm glad he got to see 2016. 

Watching Cubs baseball is helping me through my grief. 

Again, I want to apologize for the somber post but I needed a place to vent a little bit. 

RIP Dad. 

 

RIP.  Your Dad and mine would have probably been good friends.  

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15 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

I like Owen Caissie a lot as well, but anyone anointing him after three games against the Rockies should probably calm down

It was the Rockies LOL.  I never bothered to look.

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50 minutes ago, Tangled Up in Plaid said:

I like Owen Caissie a lot as well, but anyone anointing him after three games against the Rockies should probably calm down

You'd think after the Cam Smith experience last year we'd learn our lesson about this particular brand of overreaction

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