Proof the Brewers are stealing signs, again

[mul21]

5 minutes ago, imb said:

i have information that will lead to the arrest of jackson chourio 

Is it this?

[Outshined_One]

We're approximately two pages away from a discussion regarding whether jet fuel melts steel beams.

It's admittedly a refreshing break from some of the nonsense we've seen in game threads recently.

[JHBulls]

MLB team have stolen signs since the dawn of time. Good for any team that can grab an advantage, especially in a high stakes postseason series.

Not every stolen sign is blatant Houston Astros level cheating. That was different and completely illegal. Not saying the OP is suggesting that…

[mul21]

14 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

We're approximately two pages away from a discussion regarding whether jet fuel melts steel beams.

It's admittedly a refreshing break from some of the nonsense we've seen in game threads recently.

[Sammy Sofa]

[Brock Beauchamp]

2 hours ago, Jason Ross said:

One of those people is he who owns the site, so I'm not sure much help will be coming to you in this regards, my friend. 

Damn it, I'm not a Wisconsinite!

[Brock Beauchamp]

You clowns never disappoint. This thread is entertaining af, and only likely to become moreso.

[Manny Trillos Brother]

I'll bite here. If the Brewers are getting electronic sign stealing help, why go through the runner? Why not just move a dot on the scoreboard or have Benny Brewer hold his mug in a different hand or have front row Amy show more/less cleavage?

Seems artificially limiting to have a plan that can ONLY be used with runners on base. 

[squally1313]

13 minutes ago, Manny Trillos Brother said:

I'll bite here. If the Brewers are getting electronic sign stealing help, why go through the runner? Why not just move a dot on the scoreboard or have Benny Brewer hold his mug in a different hand or have front row Amy show more/less cleavage?

Seems artificially limiting to have a plan that can ONLY be used with runners on base. 

All the chatter online I've seen relates to the runner at second base relaying either the position of the catcher or (in the case of the one video I saw but can't find) Contreras at second doing what he could to look at Shota's grip as he was set, holding the ball in his glove. 

Neither are illegal, no point in getting into some debate about Unwritten Rules, I think it'll be interesting to see if it reached the Cubs....should be able to tell pretty quick if Kelly sets up on one side and then moves during the delivery. Although obviously if Taillon wants to take care of it himself and not let a guy on second, that works too. 

[Sammy Sofa]

3 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

You clowns never fail to disappoint. This thread is entertaining af, and only likely to become moreso.

 

Edited October 8, 2025 by Sammy Sofa

[Derwood]

check the dugout for trash cans

Also, doesn't PitchCom eliminate "sign stealing"?

[Michael Busch Light]

I do think the Brewers do a better job positioning their guys and they clearly had an approach against Shota to sit on his splitter.  I don’t think that’s cheating.  The Brewers just have better arms than the Cubs.  It’s not really close

[squally1313]

Didn’t find the one I had originally seen but this one was close enough. A little shady, at worst, just need to tighten this stuff up going forward. 
 

 

[javy knows my name]

I appreciate this guy tipping the scales back to more "more crazy than stupid." It's been too much of the inverse lately

[Chuck Norris Fears Javy B]

I know not who the previous poster refers to.... I do know this for certain: Corruption is not a joke, but a blight on humanity! 

 

A mere 2 for 9 with runners in scoring position, the Brewers were in Game 3. The result? A Cubs victory. 

 

Who else was victorious? Every single baseball fan not just from Malibu to Maine, nor simply from Seattle to St. Pete's, but also southward all the way to the penguins waving at Argentina's Tierra Del Fuego and then abruptly - but patiently - northwestward to our most amiable of friends in Japan and South Korea (I am unaware if they play baseball in the northern part of the peninsula?). 

 

Why this semi-global joy and relief? Because the Brewers were obviously unable to employ their dastardly - yes, I consider the corruption of the game which forms the very soul of our nation's youth to be "dastardly" - cheating. 

 

What happened to their smiling ease when at bat? What happened to their yawning mastery of our best starting pitchers? What turned their eager confidence striding to the plate into the very picture of quavering incompetence? 

 

The answer is clear: they couldn't illegally steal signs effectively in Wrigley Field. Perhaps the ivy is not merely cosmetically beautiful - perhaps it also provides a lush cover for the humble and the honest? We can add their laughable, ham handed Game 3 attempts with runners in scoring position to the long list of evidence - soberly enumerated in this thread - that they are relying on perfidious methods to achieve success in their home park. 

 

Again, I implore the Commissioner's involvement: intervene in this clear case of (sadly typical) Wisconsinite corruption before another "Black Sox Scandal" turns our right-minded citizens away from our most wholesome, most democratic and most healthful of pastimes!

 

Play the game hard. Play the game without mercy, even, as it is a game of men, after all. But do not play the game cheaply - it is held as dear by too many. 

 

Milwaukee Brewers you lost, but you will still be investigated and held accountable for your actions! The long list of questions - questions nobody wanted to ever have to ask - only grows.... 

[javy knows my name]

This is officially clever, and signs point to tree

[Chuck Norris Fears Javy B]

As time is short - game 4 is upon us in less than 24 hours - and because both bureaucracy and thorough investigation work only tortuously long, there is only one solution: beanballs for the obvious offenders.

 

The Brewers brought this upon themselves, of that there is no doubt. However, integrity must be defended at all costs and at all times - that is the high price of that kingly virtue, and regarding this: there can be no further discussion. 

 

If fisticuffs ensue it would bring no stain upon the Cubs, certainly. Look at the fine reporting - it does still exist! - from our hometown journalists at Marquee presented in the video just above. Indeed, this thread has been proven to be not prescient but necessary. Questions regarding the flagrant basepath behavior of the Brewers must be explained immediately, or else the durability of their protective helmets and elbow guards need to be tested. 

 

This is baseball, after all. It is spelled: b-a-s-e-b-a-l-l. 

 

Aim for the back, not the head - Chicagoans will never be reduced to the level of Wisconsinites. They say the streets of Chicago are mean - it is clearer than ever that the bleak, wintry pastures of Wisconsin produce even more meanness and desperation. All hail the (truly) noble farmer for this bitter reality - we all certainly urge more profit to them. The control skills of Chicago's pitchers are among the best, so the Brewers need not fear for their - largely empty - noggins.

 

The cheating Brewers have no right to retaliation - beanballs would be the result of the Cubs exercising their legitimate right of retaliation in the first place! The Brewers reaction, assuming they have an ounce of justice in their muscles, is proscribed in the long annals of our nation's game: Simply put your (guilty) head down and take your base. Cease your chicanery. Earn your runs in truly manly fashion - of course our nation's virtuous female softball players would never stoop to such methods. We men can be weak, yes. And yes, we know we concede a wholly unearned 90 foot advantage to you - but we will not concede the integrity of the game. 

 

It is with no joy that I write this prescription, but cancer and sickness must be eradicated - this is the game's bitter salve. The old medicine remains the best, of course, as it has been long tested. I don't wish good luck to the Brewers, but rather steadfastness for the coming trials. I do not expect it, however. 

[Stratos]

Teams do this, it's legal.  But the Brewers are bush league, I wouldn't put anything past them, I don't like the way they operate, but they're also not alone.  They do seem very good at gaining value on the fringes, legal or not.

Jed and the Cubs players seem like a group of really good people, and i suspect it's at least partially by design led by Jed.  Maybe they're even too nice for this era?  I dunno, but they can probably hang their heads high.  I'm proud of them no matter what happens.

Edited October 9, 2025 by Stratos

[Stratos]

2 hours ago, Michael Busch Light said:

I do think the Brewers do a better job positioning their guys and they clearly had an approach against Shota to sit on his splitter.  I don’t think that’s cheating.  The Brewers just have better arms than the Cubs.  It’s not really close

The Brewers had a week to prepare for our SP.  Who knows what they figured out in that time.

[NorthsideAvenger]

After 2017 Astros, I can not completely ignore electronic cheating from the Brewers but I need clearer proof of that before I jump on board fully. I think the more LIKELY scenario is that the Cubs pitchers are tipping pitches. Clean that crap up and you have a chance to come back and win this series. 

[I owned a Suzuki]

I think Chuck Norris has posted more words in his first thread than I have in 20 plus yrs 

[KCCub]

12 hours ago, squally1313 said:

Didn’t find the one I had originally seen but this one was close enough. A little shady, at worst, just need to tighten this stuff up going forward. 
 

 

They're for sure relaying signs from second, and unfortunately it's just part of the game. Brewers are doing it, Cubs should be doing it, Yankees have been blatantly doing it for a few weeks now and they were accusing the Blue Jays of doing the same -

 

It's the worst when you have a splitter pitcher on the mound. Absolutely have to hide your grip. Hopefully Boyd has fixed his tipping issues, because I agree with TT on feeling like the Brewers were laying off tough change ups that normally induce a swing and weren't fooled at all on some of his breaking balls. 

[Bertz]

39 minutes ago, KCCub said:

They're for sure relaying signs from second, and unfortunately it's just part of the game. Brewers are doing it, Cubs should be doing it, Yankees have been blatantly doing it for a few weeks now and they were accusing the Blue Jays of doing the same -

 

It's the worst when you have a splitter pitcher on the mound. Absolutely have to hide your grip. Hopefully Boyd has fixed his tipping issues, because I agree with TT on feeling like the Brewers were laying off tough change ups that normally induce a swing and weren't fooled at all on some of his breaking balls. 

Contreras was so obvious and over the top I kind of think it was just headgames.  Unfortunately unlike the stupid "we had Priester warming up in the bullpen" gambit I think it worked.

[CubinNY]

The obvious solution is to drill them the next time they come to the plate. But that will only make matters worse

[scourge165]

On 10/8/2025 at 1:46 PM, squally1313 said:

I just spent 15 unsuccessful minutes looking for the video I saw while half-asleep doom scrolling last night, but there was a decent breakdown about Contreras pretty egregiously leaning to his left while leading off on second to get a look at Shota's grip in his glove right before the home run. Again, not illegal, do better, but I think the assorted internet chatter isn't some electronic wire conspiracy, more just the type of behavior that (back in the day) would get a pitch thrown behind you. Coming from policing-the-bat-flips Contreras is especially rich, but any anger I have towards it is mostly just because we're down 2-0. 

When has William Contreras policed bat flips? 

I assumed most of this thread is facetious... with some funny arguments that I'm not sure if they're serious(Yelich power resurgence when his SLG was +50 points last year and it's 5 points higher than '23) or Vaughn's resurgence...

But I see a lot of this about Contreras and his attitude and other than showing a lot of emotion after his HR(the 1st one)... I don't recall when he's policed anyone or done anything else. He seems pretty laid back even without Wilson as a contrast.