Cubs (Boyd) vs Pirates (Oviedo): 9/17/25, 11:35am

[Geographyhater8888]

Can’t locate his offspeed stuff.

[Caesar]

Worst hitting team in NL and a clinching game for playoffs and he’s wetting the bed. Now imagine when it’s a playoff game. Do you trust him? 

[mk49]

Now, they have to score more than 4 runs to win.

[chibears55]

Just now, Caesar said:

Worst hitting team in NL and a clinching game for playoffs and he’s wetting the bed. Now imagine when it’s a playoff game. Do you trust him? 

Hes dead....

[mk49]

Just now, Caesar said:

Worst hitting team in NL and a clinching game for playoffs and he’s wetting the bed. Now imagine when it’s a playoff game. Do you trust him? 

No.  Like I said, Jamo would be better.

[We Got The Whole 9]

Craig and Jed are on cruise control. I dont think they have much urgency to do anything drastic.

 

Now he faces Bart with the bases loaded.

[chibears55]

4 run first, this is gonna be an easy blowout win...

1 inning later, about to give up the lead

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[Caesar]

Just now, chibears55 said:

Hes dead....

Taillon has passed him no doubt .

[UMFan83]

2 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

4 run first, this is gonna be an easy blowout win...

1 inning later, about to give up the lead

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Not to mention they've had 4 baserunners since the 4th run scored and haven't pushed another across.

[BKHoo]

2 minutes ago, chibears55 said:

4 run first, this is gonna be an easy blowout win...

1 inning later, about to give up the lead

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

And what bugs me is we should have easily had more runs. If this team stagnates at 4 again it’s a trend. 

[We Got The Whole 9]

Offense needs to get a handful more. Lets go.

[BKHoo]

Boyd had to be out of the circle. His ERA is above 7 the last month. 

[UMFan83]

Thank you to our old friend Canario

[chibears55]

Let Go 

Enough of this crap, get some runs on the board and put this game away

[squally1313]

8 minutes ago, Caesar said:

Worst hitting team in NL and a clinching game for playoffs and he’s wetting the bed. Now imagine when it’s a playoff game. Do you trust him? 

Do you think this is a high pressure game?

[We Got The Whole 9]

Pete needs 3 more doubles to be the first Cub with 40 doubles since Fonzi

[mul21]

I think Boyd needs an extra couple days between his next few starts and he'll probably be fine.  He's clearly not sharp but the velocity is there.  Hopefully just some fatigue that rest will take care of.

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

They really can't get that 5th run. Bizarre. 

[squally1313]

This is obviously a more condensed time frame, but in Boyd's last two starts last year for Detroit he gave up 15 baserunners in 6.2 innings combined. He then went out and gave up 13 over 11.2 (and one run). I'll lean on that playoff performance over a Wednesday morning matinee against the Pirates. 

[JHBulls]

Oh, horsefeathers me. I didn’t realise we were playing so early today. 

[BKHoo]

I wish PCA would have taken off early when Swanson was up - we need to manufacture a fifth run. 

[Caesar]

8 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Do you think this is a high pressure game?

Not a playoff game but I’m sure they would love to clinch the game . It’s been a month now with his poor performance so what I’m saying is that he has lost his spot as a starter in playoffs. Maybe #4 starter if needed otherwise perfect as long reliever if needed

[squally1313]

4 minutes ago, Caesar said:

Not a playoff game but I’m sure they would love to clinch the game . It’s been a month now with his poor performance so what I’m saying is that he has lost his spot as a starter in playoffs. Maybe #4 starter if needed otherwise perfect as long reliever if needed

I think even a diminished form of Matt Boyd is better than Taillon. And then there's the possibilities that he's purposely dialing it back a notch, that he's getting unlucky in the way that just called up Horton was in terms of not putting guys away, etc.

Relying on short term trends over full season performance is not the right way to manage a baseball team. 

[mk49]

3 minutes ago, squally1313 said:

Relying on short term trends over full season performance is not the right way to manage a baseball team. 

I don't call it "short term".  It's been about 7 weeks.  I agree Boyd is a better pitcher than Jamo, but not right now.

Edited September 17, 2025 by mk49

[squally1313]

Just now, mk49 said:

I don't call it "short term".  It's been about 7 weeks.

A quarter of the season? For the guy with two starts coming off injury and a 5/4 K/BB ratio in 10.1 IP in those starts? Matt Boyd has a better FIP and xFIP in his last 7 starts than Taillon's last 7 starts. And was obviously significantly better than he was before those starts.