Bears Week 2 at Texans: SNF on NBC

[minnesotacubsfan]

TEXTBOOK as the kids say

[jersey cubs fan]

5 minutes ago, cwood218 said:

To the shock of no one I think that list should have zero names on it.

Eric Dickerson is the text book example of why you don't take a running back in the first round.

Here is a list of Dickerson's draft class. DIckerson went 1.2

HOF QB:

1.14 HOF Jim Kelly

1.27 HOF Dan Marino

HOF OT:

1.6 HOF Jimbo Covert

1.9 HOF Bruce Matthews

HOF CB:

1.28 HOF Darrell Green

All five were better players at more important positions.

They weren’t as important positions back then. 

[Derwood]

How much longer are we going to get SNF on NBC? Seems destined for Peacock

[Rex Buckingham]

Ok, now do all the other first round picks who were not nearly as good as Eric Dickerson

[minnesotacubsfan]

1 hour ago, Rex Buckingham said:

Ok, now do all the other first round picks who were not nearly as good as Eric Dickerson

A-Aron Rodgers

 

[BigbadB]

20 hours ago, We Got The Whole 9 said:

Sometimes I wonder where a guy like Payton would be drafted these days, or if he even would be at all. 

Would Payton have been in the same situation in this era than he was in the '70's as far as scholarships, training, coaching, etc....

[cwood218]

12 hours ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

fify

If your happy with Vince Ferragamo instead of Dan Marino then sure go ahead and draft Dickerson instead.

[Brian707]

14 hours ago, Derwood said:

How much longer are we going to get SNF on NBC? Seems destined for Peacock

I doubt it happens anytime soon. Sunday night too good for the local NBC affiliates

[Wilson A2000]

1 hour ago, Brian707 said:

I doubt it happens anytime soon. Sunday night too good for the local NBC affiliates

I don’t think the US’s highest rated show year-after-year that makes bank for NBC and the NFL is moving to streaming anytime soon

[jumbo]

On 9/13/2024 at 8:08 AM, raw said:

Is this before or after they are prepared to be eaten?

I won't put up the remix song, you've all seen it I'm sure

Good stuff, but nowhere near the all time classic "dead giveaway" remix

 

[minnesotacubsfan]

4 hours ago, cwood218 said:

If your happy with Vince Ferragamo instead of Dan Marino then sure go ahead and draft Dickerson instead.

Dickerson 1-0 SB

Marino 0-1 SB

 

 

Edited September 14, 2024 by minnesotacubsfan

[Derwood]

57 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

I don’t think the US’s highest rated show year-after-year that makes bank for NBC and the NFL is moving to streaming anytime soon

I wouldn't have thought that Thursday Night Football would move to streaming, but here we are

[minnesotacubsfan]

5 minutes ago, Derwood said:

I wouldn't have thought that Thursday Night Football would move to streaming, but here we are

I dont think TNF ever had the ratings SNF has had tho

 

 

[Tim]

17 hours ago, cwood218 said:

To the shock of no one I think that list should have zero names on it.

Eric Dickerson is the text book example of why you don't take a running back in the first round.

Here is a list of first round Hall Of Fame players Dickerson's draft class. DIckerson went 1.2

QB:

1.14 Jim Kelly

1.27 Dan Marino

OT:

1.6 Jimbo Covert

1.9 Bruce Matthews

CB:

1.28 Darrell Green

All five were better players at more important positions.

So ED should have gone 1.8? Okay.

[Derwood]

22 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

I dont think TNF ever had the ratings SNF has had tho

 

 

Maybe, but if the move from NBC to Peacock, they still get ad dollars PLUS the subscription. It's where sports is going

[CubinNY]

3 hours ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

Dickerson 1-0 SB

Marino 0-1 SB

 

 

It’s such a dumb argument. Todays NFL and the way the game was played 20 years ago are not analogous. Running backs were a significant percentage of offensive production, now, for the most part they are not. 
 

End of Story. 

Edited September 14, 2024 by CubinNY

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Bates to IR, Collin Johnson up from practice squad

Edited September 14, 2024 by Hairyducked Idiot

[Old Style]

Is Dickerson not a HOFer?

[cwood218]

1 hour ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

Dickerson 1-0 SB

Marino 0-1 SB

 

 

What super bowl did DIckerson win?

 

[minnesotacubsfan]

21 minutes ago, cwood218 said:

What super bowl did DIckerson win?

 

Rams gave him a ring after they beat the Titans, which is one more ring than Marino has

 

lol

[cwood218]

2 hours ago, CubinNY said:

It’s such a dumb argument. Todays NFL and they way the game was played 20 years ago are not analogous. Running backs were a significant percentage of offensive production, now, for the most part they are not. 
 

End of Story. 

Even back then there are plenty of examples of teams not using first round picks on running backs and getting the same or better production out of the running back position. Usually with a running back by committee approach.

Some like the 49ers and Redskins even won the Super Bowl.

Edited September 14, 2024 by cwood218

[cwood218]

2 hours ago, Tim said:

So ED should have gone 1.8? Okay.

No, ALL Running Backs are off the board until at best the second round. In a perfect world it would be third round or later. 

And to answer the question that probably just popped into your head after reading that sentence.

No, I'm not high.

It is my position, even back then, that most NFL GM's and Head Coaches were fumbling along as if trying to apply a Dusty Baker like strategy to football.

Drafting a running back in the first round. Is like having Neifi Perez lead off the game and then sacrificing him over to second base. Sure, there were times when it worked out and they hit on a player who racked up 1400-1600 yards or so on around 4.5-5.5 yards per carry. And then everyone gets to look on approvingly as if they had just witnessed Joe Morgan discussing the value of the RBI.

After Pittsburgh's victory in Super Bowl 14 ( 1979 season ) the old era essentially came to a close.  With a few exceptions here and there the Super Bowl started to be regularly won by teams that had embraced this new reality.

Ultimately, after the NFL had first implemented a salary cap. And then later mandated that all Quarterbacks wear skirts, it was over for the value of any individual Running Back. It's all about building that group with less valuable draft capital and only on cheap contracts. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

[minnesotacubsfan]

i think you're high. the NFC had several RB led teams win the SB after 1979; Bears, Redskins, Giants

 

 

Edited September 15, 2024 by minnesotacubsfan

[cwood218]

2 hours ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

i think you're high. the NFC had several RB led teams win the SB after 1979; Bears, Redskins, Giants

 

 

Yes, as I wrote in the post above there are exceptions.

( 1 of 1 ) Bears - yes

( 1 of 3 ) Redskins - yes

( 2 of 3 ) Redskins - No

( 2 of 4 ) Giants - Yes

( 2 of 4 ) Giants - No

I never said teams couldn't have production from one or a group of RB's.

If you get one stud like Terrell Davis for a sixth rounder then excellent.

if you spend a second rounder for two years of Clinton Portis fine.

If you sign John Riggins as a free agent fine. Especially since there was no salary cap then.

Otherwise use less valuable draft picks ( never a first rounder ) or UDFA's or trades or sign free agent's.

Maybe it's mainly one back maybe it's a committee approach like the teams mark with a no above.

Also, after the salary cap started in 1993 ( or 4? ) be cheap with free agent RB's.

Edited September 15, 2024 by cwood218