Brewers (Myers) vs Cubs (Assad): 7/22/24, 7:10pm

[Cuzi]

That depends entirely on what players they could be targeting. I doubt they are targeting MLB players, because there's not really any good options available at positions that would benefit the Cubs in 2025 and beyond. It's more likely they would be buying in a sell fashion with some of the teams that have been scouting the Cubs and discussing trades. I'm sure there's a handful of 45 FV and above prospects they have a list of that are in AAA looking at potential call ups later this year.

Like I said in another thread, I wouldn't mind trying to work something out with the Mets for Mauricio. He's a guy that doesn't have defensive question marks like Morel but would have the best raw power on the team, so moving him to 3B wouldn't be an issue. The only question would be if he could make enough contact, but he does have a small sample size in MLB where he hit .248. I doubt there are a lot of teams looking at players like him at the deadline.

Edited July 23, 2024 by Cuzi

[LBiittner]

8 minutes ago, Cuzi said:

That depends entirely on what players they could be targeting. I doubt they are targeting MLB players, because there's not really any good options available at positions that would benefit the Cubs in 2025 and beyond. It's more likely they would be buying in a sell fashion with some of the teams that have been scouting the Cubs and discussing trades. I'm sure there's a handful of 45 FV and above prospects they have a list of that are in AAA looking at potential call ups later this year.

Like I said in another thread, I wouldn't mind trying to work something out with the Mets for Mauricio. He's a guy that doesn't have defensive question marks like Morel but would have the best raw power on the team, so moving him to 3B wouldn't be an issue. The only question would be if he could make enough contact, but he does have a small sample size in MLB where he hit .248. I doubt there are a lot of teams looking at players like him at the deadline.

My hunches are myrtle beach and south bend might get some restocking over the next week.

But alas, good chance the fruit will eventually die on the vine 

[Tim]

I want to do a Busch-style trade to get Eguy Rosario from SD. He's completely blocked, but ready for MLB. He's had mixed success in his cups of coffee, so I don't think he'd be very expensive. But I've liked him in the minors for years.

[Bertz]

5 minutes ago, Tim said:

I want to do a Busch-style trade to get Eguy Rosario from SD. He's completely blocked, but ready for MLB. He's had mixed success in his cups of coffee, so I don't think he'd be very expensive. But I've liked him in the minors for years.

Funny I was just looking at him yesterday.  He seems at minimum to be a lefty mashing utility man with a chance to be a low end starter to bridge us to Shaw or Smith.  

Padres need some OF depth, Canario for Rosario doesn't seem that far from fair?  Maybe we tack on a reliever?

[LBiittner]

He stands 5'7" in his cleats. 

Might be something good in having a tight k zone?

Might be bad in being vertically challenged fielding the hot corner?

Sounds mastrobouni redundant

Edited July 23, 2024 by LBiittner

[Cuzi]

I would want something with more ceiling and defensive versatility than Eguy.

I'm not penciling in Shaw at 3B just yet. He's playing exclusively there right now because it's the only open spot on the infield... for now. He's still looking at a midseason call up next year. That leaves plenty of time to find a legit 3B and open up the possibility of trading either Hoerner or Shaw.

If we were still in the planning phase of this Hoyer project, I wouldn't care too much about finding bridge players. But we are past the point of just shooting for bridge players and betting on prospects. This organization needs to raise their god damn bar.

Edited July 23, 2024 by Cuzi

[LBiittner]

1 minute ago, Cuzi said:

I would want something with more ceiling and defensive versatility than Eguy.

I'm not penciling in Shaw at 3B just yet. He's playing exclusively there right now because it's the only open spot on the infield... for now. He's still looking at a midseason call up next year. That leaves plenty of time to find a legit 3B and open up the possibility of trading either Hoerner or Shaw.

If we were still in the planning phase of this Hoyer project, I wouldn't care too much about finding bridge players. But we are past the point of just shooting for bridge players and betting on prospects. This organization needs to raise their god damn bar.

Raising my hands in the air and shouting hallelujah 

[Rex Buckingham]

2 hours ago, Cuzi said:

I would want something with more ceiling and defensive versatility than Eguy.

I'm not penciling in Shaw at 3B just yet. He's playing exclusively there right now because it's the only open spot on the infield... for now. He's still looking at a midseason call up next year. That leaves plenty of time to find a legit 3B and open up the possibility of trading either Hoerner or Shaw.

If we were still in the planning phase of this Hoyer project, I wouldn't care too much about finding bridge players. But we are past the point of just shooting for bridge players and betting on prospects. This organization needs to raise their god damn bar.

from your lips to Jed's ears

[731.4life]

Jed can capitalize on trading players and getting a good return based on desperation. 

Hoerner and/or Bellinger can go to Seattle and get a good return.

Taillon can go to Boston. Both Red Sox and Mariners have a good catching prospect that the Cubs might need to look at. For Seattle, their catcher might be blocked with Raleigh.

Kansas City hasn't made the playoffs in a while. Cleveland has no starting pitching. Atlanta needs help in the outfield.

Not saying the Cubs should trade everybody, but I think there needs to be a lot of players available, and if a team gets a little desperate, then capitalized on that. Seattle isn't going to stand pat on this deadline. Don't think the Braves have the prospects to get a massive deal done, but I can't imagine a team that is in the wild card #1 spot to not make a deal at the deadline. 

If Toronto is willing to keep Guerrero, then the asking price for Bellinger might just go up. Seattle/Houston need a first baseman, and Yankees/Phillies need a center fielder.

[Stratos]

20 minutes ago, 731.4life said:

Jed can capitalize on trading players and getting a good return based on desperation. 

Hoerner and/or Bellinger can go to Seattle and get a good return.

Problem is for next year we have Mastrobuoni to replace Hoerner and a CF who can't get hits besides bunting and can't drive a ball that's above his ankles.  If we trade anyone including Taillon I hope the prospects are at least in AA.  Getting MLB talent back at the deadline when selling isn't easy.

I think we're about a year away until Caissie, Shaw, Triantos, Ballesteros are ready.  Alcantara is in the mix too though seems a bit behind those other guys.  We'll need players until they're ready, though I think the upside for some of those guys like Triantos and Ballesteros are limited.

Edited July 23, 2024 by Stratos

[Tim]

4 hours ago, Bertz said:

Funny I was just looking at him yesterday.  He seems at minimum to be a lefty mashing utility man with a chance to be a low end starter to bridge us to Shaw or Smith.  

Padres need some OF depth, Canario for Rosario doesn't seem that far from fair?  Maybe we tack on a reliever?

I think his ceiling is higher than that. He's consistently put up strong IsoP numbers since covid, takes his walks, hasn't struck out much in the minors, and is a positive defender at 3B.

I know the bias against him because he's short, but he's no Madrigal out there.

[chibears55]

10 hours ago, Cuzi said:

Jed technically did not say they aren't going to be buyers. He said they aren't going to buy rentals. However, this team is never going to buy with Jed pulling the strings. This man just said he is happy with where the organization is. Jed... the Cubs you have led for 4 years have yet to make the playoffs and are currently the 4th worst team in the NL on a tax strapped payroll. How can you possibly be happy with that?

They also won't go over the Threshold,  so I'm not sure what team will just unload someone that is good and under a team friendly contract that will keep the Cubs under the Threshold. 

I see what Hoyer said as an excuse not to add anyone of significance, and just say there wasn't anyone available for trade that he was looking for.

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, chibears55 said:

They also won't go over the Threshold,  so I'm not sure what team will just unload someone that is good and under a team friendly contract that will keep the Cubs under the Threshold. 

I see what Hoyer said as an excuse not to add anyone of significance, and just say there wasn't anyone available for trade that he was looking for.

I wouldn’t call it an excuse. I would say it is a reasonable way to approach this deadline. I agree with you that they won’t go over the LT. That said, I just don’t see anything they really should do in the way of buying. If they get back in the race, which I doubt, it will be with what they have, IMO.