Week 1 - Packers @ Bears - Soldier Field - September 10th 3:25PM

[Cubfanintheknow]

2 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Someone asked Eberflus at his presser what’s one thing that the team would like to improve on. He said the basics of football. That’s a huge indictment on him.

Impossible to guess who to pin this loss on: bad players or bad coaching? They both sucked in equally large parts.

[Wilson A2000]

Fields was asked about the offensive struggles. He blamed it on penalties and false starts and too many 3rd and longs. Does he not realize he played terrible too?

[CubinNY]

1 hour ago, Soul said:

He’ll probably join the ranks of Bears QBs who sink into obscurity.

There’s not much to hang on to today but I’m still going back to the Eberflus hire as my #1 problem.

Yes, and they can’t fix that. 

[Wilson A2000]

2 minutes ago, Cubfanintheknow said:

Impossible to guess who to pin this loss on: bad players or bad coaching? They both sucked in equally large parts.

I don’t think the roster is this bad. Most people think the Bears are a 6 or 7 win team. But you can’t win without much better QB play and constant pressure from the front four on the opposing QB. I think most of the issue is coaching, but I also don’t think Fields has any hope of being coached up because he just doesn’t have it. But if you aren’t going to let Fields throw medium to deep, at least give him more roll outs and designed runs.

[jersey cubs fan]

The shame of it is people will claim bears fans are overreacting to week 1 but everything about last season showed Eberflus is not up to the task. 

[Wilson A2000]

3 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

Yes, and they can’t fix that. 

Would Daboll have picked the Bears over the Giants if the Bears had offered him the job? 

[17 Seconds]

9 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Fields was asked about the offensive struggles. He blamed it on penalties and false starts and too many 3rd and longs. Does he not realize he played terrible too?

i don't think fields is very smart or self-aware

[Soul]

2 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Would Daboll have picked the Bears over the Giants if the Bears had offered him the job? 

For me it was that the Bears didn’t seem to be interested.

[raw]

Daboll wanted to be in NY. The GM NY hired was from Buffalo. They were a package deal. He wasn't coming to Chicago. 

4 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Would Daboll have picked the Bears over the Giants if the Bears had offered him the job? 

 

[Wilson A2000]

Just now, Soul said:

For me it was that the Bears didn’t seem to be interested.

Poles and Eberflus have the same agent, right? This is the same organization who didn’t want Arians after he was coach of the year. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

52 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Organization. 
 

Kevin Warren isn’t doing so hot with the stadium move either.

I had this exact thought after my post, fro top to bottom a trash organization

 

[raw]

I'm not even down on Fields. He didn't play well, and I suspect all 22 shows he missed some open guys down the field. But this loss was a clear indictment on Poles and his coaching staff.  

The most FA money and high draft capital went to a RG that doesn't like to practice and 1 draft pick at the position (albeit a top 10 pick). If you're scoring at home that is 1 fewer FA and the same number of draft picks that the Bears spent on off-ball LBs. I will also accept this being referred to as 1 more draft pick and FA spent on the edge rush before training camp. But to be fair, OL and DL weren't huge needs.

As for the coaching, the offense only had success with the screen pass in preseason. What else did they practice for months? Because they sure as hell kept going back to that well over and over again. 0 creativity in the pass game other than the TD to Mooney when the game was on the verge of being over already. 3rd down QB sneak with your TE. A telegraphed 4th down QB sneak, after a failed QB sneak, with a QB that can do so much more than try to fall forward behind an undersized interior OL. I understand they couldn't pass block well enough to do too much, but how many moving pockets did we get? How much playaction while actually not leaving a guy schematically unblocked? I mean, they also had free runners they were supposed to block, which again comes back to not having put enough resources to the worst position group in the league last year.

The defense sat back in zone all day against a QB that has only shown he can make throws in wide open windows (TD vs Stevenson, the exception) and didn't do anything to generate a pass rush. They played a good OL, but this again comes back to not having the horses when everyone knew you didn't have horses and trying to get to a baseline level of pass rushing performance by signing a guy in August. 

[raw]

To add on......2nd lowest intended air yards, which was the gameplan. Said gameplan also included a healthy inactive for their best blocking WR who's only purpose is to block.

https://twitter.com/sean_hammond/status/1701026811897950403?s=20

[Soul]

I thought of this season as a mystery and therefore it should be fun to find out about this team.

It was more fun when it was still a mystery.

[UK]

It should be noted that Jalen Carter had 6 pressures and a sack.

[raw]

 

4 throws over 10 yards. 5 throws over like 6 1/2 yards. This is the gameplan with statistically the most accurate QB of 2022 between 10-20 yards. I mean, maybe he would have still been bad (1 of those 4 throws obviously was), but you spent all offseason preparing for this game just to base your gameplan on trying to play to the defenses weaknesses instead of playing to your QB's and new WR acquisitions' (Claypool included) strengths. 

[Hairyducked Idiot]

3 minutes ago, raw said:

 

4 throws over 10 yards. 5 throws over like 6 1/2 yards. This is the gameplan with statistically the most accurate QB of 2022 between 10-20 yards. I mean, maybe he would have still been bad (1 of those 4 throws obviously was), but you spent all offseason preparing for this game just to base your gameplan on trying to play to the defenses weaknesses instead of playing to your QB's and new WR acquisitions' (Claypool included) strengths. 

It looks like that because Fields was incapable of processing and making throws downfield. A better QB would have chosen to throw deep a lot more often.

[Omar]

Was Greg Olsen right in terms of being critical of the offense/coaching for lack of urgency down 14-38 with like 3:30 to go? He was really laying it on them. 

[raw]

6 minutes ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

It looks like that because Fields was incapable of processing and making throws downfield. A better QB would have chosen to throw deep a lot more often.

Better QBs definitely would have chosen to simply throw like 8 of those 14 called screen passes down the field. 

I mean, you can say the issue is they don't trust Fields to throw the ball down the field more (in which case, it's an even bigger indictment on the team that passed on a chance to upgrade him with the #1 pick), but you saying a better QB would have chosen to throw deeper more often is you talking out of your anus, per usual.

Also he had 0 problems throwing the ball down field last year. He had a high ADOT and as I pointed out was pretty accurate from 10-20. And if he is still incapable of processing and making throws down field, again, indictment on an organization by moving on from him and consistently talking him up all camp.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Just now, raw said:

Better QBs definitely would have chosen to simply throw like 8 of those 14 called screen passes down the field. 

I mean, you can say the issue is they don't trust Fields to throw the ball down the field more (in which case, it's an even bigger indictment on the team that passed on a chance to upgrade him with the #1 pick), but you saying a better QB would have chosen to throw deeper more often is you talking out of your anus, per usual

I know you're the ultimate Fields-can-never-fail-only-be-failed guy in these parts, but did you really not see all the non-screen checkdowns in the first half?

[jersey cubs fan]

2 minutes ago, raw said:

Better QBs definitely would have chosen to simply throw like 8 of those 14 called screen passes down the field. 

I mean, you can say the issue is they don't trust Fields to throw the ball down the field more (in which case, it's an even bigger indictment on the team that passed on a chance to upgrade him with the #1 pick), but you saying a better QB would have chosen to throw deeper more often is you talking out of your anus, per usual

There were screens, but there were a ton of check downs by fields. His default mode was check down 

[raw]

1 minute ago, Hairyducked Idiot said:

I know you're the ultimate Fields-can-never-fail-only-be-failed guy in these parts, but did you really not see all the non-screen checkdowns in the first half?

And you assume he checked down because he's incapable of the only thing he did well last year, throwing wise? 

You really don't want to know what you are the ultimate guy of

[raw]

2 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

There were screens, but there were a ton of check downs by fields. His default mode was check down 

I mean, yall complained last year he wasn't checking down enough and looking to run and took too many sacks. 

Obviously, we all want a happy medium but Fields stated that this was the gameplan in the tweet I posted. 

[jts1207]

I’m really at a loss for words after watching this. Reminds of when Nagy finally put Fields in and set him up to fail. 0 creativity on offense and 0’on D ….except of course for direct snap to Kmet when you have arguably the best running QB in football lol. Pathetic 

[UMFan83]

Pretty bad when all 3 of your running backs each have more targets than your number 1 receiver that you essentially traded a 1st round pick for in the offseason.