Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 8-2-23

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Scheduled Games (Central Time):

Iowa vs. Toledo, 12:08 pm

Tennessee vs. Chattanooga, 6:00 pm

South Bend vs. Wisconsin, 6:05 pm

Myrtle Beach at Down East (resumption of game suspended on 8/1), 4:30 pm

Myrtle Beach at Down East, TBD

ACL Cubs vs. ACL A's, 8:00 pm

DSL Cubs Red at DSL LA Dodgers Mega, 10:00 am

DSL Cubs Blue have the day off

Probable Starters:

Iowa: TBD

Tennessee: RHP Chris Kachmar (47 IP, 4.60 ERA, 5.34 FIP, 52 K, 16 BB)

South Bend: RHP Brody McCullough (16.2 IP, 5.40 ERA, 4.62 FIP, 14 K, 6 BB)

Myrtle Beach: LHP Jackson Ferris (31.2 IP, 3.69 ERA, 3.21 FIP, 42 K, 20 BB)

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Cade Horton with a 1-2-3 first with 2 strikeouts in his Tennessee debut.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Cade Horton with an IF single, a 4-6-3 GIDP and a groundout for a 5-pitch 2nd inning.

2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 15 pitches-12 strikes

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Horton now at 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K, 31 pitches (23 strikes)

[Hrubes20]

7 minutes ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

Horton now at 3 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 4 K, 31 pitches (23 strikes)

Both Ks on fastballs in the 3rd. Just blew it past them.

[CubinNY]

Horton hasn’t missed a beat. 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K, 56-41 pitches-strikes

2 over the minimum now thanks to the 2 hits (one double play) and a strikeout WP in the 4th.

[CubinNY]

TIL: I can watch MiLB games and listen to the Cubs on the ap. 

[CaliforniaRaisin]

14 minutes ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 6 K, 56-41 pitches-strikes

2 over the minimum now thanks to the 2 hits (one double play) and a strikeout WP in the 4th.

His final line. Great AA debut.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

Caissie has a 2B and 3B

[Hrubes20]

Ferris with 6 Ks through 2. 

[Hrubes20]

9 minutes ago, Hrubes20 said:

Ferris with 6 Ks through 2. 

8 through 3. Almost surely done at over 50 pitches. 0 hits allowed. 1 BB

[CaliforniaRaisin]

 

Just now, Hrubes20 said:

8 through 3. Almost surely done at over 50 pitches. 0 hits allowed. 1 BB

Yeah, 52 pitches. He hasn’t topped 60 so I think he’s done or gets one guy next inning.

[Hrubes20]

Rosario and Long making their debuts tonight.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

11 minutes ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

 

Yeah, 52 pitches. He hasn’t topped 60 so I think he’s done or gets one guy next inning.

Got two guys in the 4th. Struck one out, walked one and his day is over.

Great evening for 2022 Kantrovitz.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

And the inherited run scores. Another start were a reliever ruined a potential scoreless outing for Ferris.

[Hrubes20]

1 minute ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

And the inherited run scores. Another start were a reliever ruined a potential scoreless outing for Ferris.

Dude has been so unlucky in this regard this year.

[JBears79]

Exactly what I was expecting from Horton to do. Guy just screams future big game pitcher to me. 

[WhyCantWeWin]

Caissie needs to be promoted to AAA already. His k rate is down and he's on absolute fire. 

[JD94]

1 hour ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

Caissie needs to be promoted to AAA already. His k rate is down and he's on absolute fire. 

I think I let him stick in AA the rest of the year. He’s still one of the youngest players at that level. No need in rushing him. Let’s make sure he can sustain the lowered K rate over a longer period. He can get close to a full season of AAA next year and still be well ahead of schedule. 

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, WhyCantWeWin said:

Caissie needs to be promoted to AAA already. His k rate is down and he's on absolute fire. 

I would rather he just play the entire year at AA and end up crushing it. Then start next year at AAA. He is still very young. Why rush him? 

[Transmogrified Tiger]

4 minutes ago, Rcal10 said:

I would rather he just play the entire year at AA and end up crushing it. Then start next year at AAA. He is still very young. Why rush him? 

Since the All-Star break and the switch to the non-tacked ball, Caissie is hitting .345/.451/.724 with a 15% BB% and 25% K%.  Ideally the strikeouts are a little bit lower(though I'm not sure what the non-tacked ball average for AA is), but that's quickly approaching the point where he gets more development by taking on the next level.  Doesn't mean that you have to move him to the big leagues any faster if he struggles there, but he's just about to the point where you aren't learning much else by staying in AA.

[Jason Ross]

I'll come clean and say no one here is probably a bigger Owen Caissie fan than me.  I wanted the Cubs to draft Owen Caissie as an overslot HS prep bat in 2020 (and they didn't) and was elated when they traded for him.  With that said, I don't think were there yet with Caissie that he needs to go to AAA.  He's had a really good month, but with every adjustment, there's a readjustment the league will make. I'm thrilled with the K% over his last month, and especially since the pre-tacked ball got the boot.  A lot of the dip has been over a 28 PA span in which he's K'd only twice.  That's awesome...but it's 28 PA's.  

 

Let's see what the end of August looks like for Owen.  Right now the OF in AAA consists of Canario, PCA and Perlaza and it's kind of full.  If Caissie can do another 3 or so week of this 25-27% K% he's going to force the issue that he's probably good enough to finish out a few weeks in AAA, full or not.  But even I think he needs a few more weeks of sustained K% drop before I am convinced he's just so good he has to go to AAA.

Edited August 3, 2023 by 1908_Cubs

[Jason Ross]

7 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Since the All-Star break and the switch to the non-tacked ball, Caissie is hitting .345/.451/.724 with a 15% BB% and 25% K%.  Ideally the strikeouts are a little bit lower(though I'm not sure what the non-tacked ball average for AA is), but that's quickly approaching the point where he gets more development by taking on the next level.  Doesn't mean that you have to move him to the big leagues any faster if he struggles there, but he's just about to the point where you aren't learning much else by staying in AA.

Pre-tacked ball in Southern League saw, roughly, a 3% K% increase league wide.