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I didn't want to start a new thread.

So let's assume everyone the Cubs drafted signs with them. 

Projecting out, who was the Cubs' best (not safest) selection?

My vote is for Carico. 

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19 hours ago, Hrubes20 said:

I wouldn't be shocked at all to see him get more than Rosario.  

Probably a tad more than Rosario's slot ($325k) for Zyhir Hope. Maybe a clean $400k when all is said and done.

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33 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

I didn't want to start a new thread.

So let's assume everyone the Cubs drafted signs with them. 

Projecting out, who was the Cubs' best (not safest) selection?

My vote is for Carico. 

Setting aside Shaw since I don't think that's really the point of your question, I'll vote for Sanders.  Guy had 1st round helium before this year and was a multi-year starter in the SEC, I wouldn't be surprised that a little bit of health and a little bit of pro instruction(mechanical and pitch dev) make him into a really good pick for the round/slot.

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17 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Setting aside Shaw since I don't think that's really the point of your question, I'll vote for Sanders.  Guy had 1st round helium before this year and was a multi-year starter in the SEC, I wouldn't be surprised that a little bit of health and a little bit of pro instruction(mechanical and pitch dev) make him into a really good pick for the round/slot.

I really hated that pick, but I have to remember that Wiggins supposedly was terrific in fall ball.  So much so that Van Horn tabbed him as the Friday Night Starter for this past season before he blew his elbow.  Van Horn wouldn't put the 2022 version of Wiggins in his Friday Night spot.  

Edit:  I apparently can't read and mixed up Sanders and Wiggins. Nothing to see here.  Carry on.

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1 minute ago, Hrubes20 said:

I really hated that pick, but I have to remember that Wiggins supposedly was terrific in fall ball.  So much so that Van Horn tabbed him as the Friday Night Starter for this past season before he blew his elbow.  Van Horn wouldn't put the 2022 version of Wiggins in his Friday Night spot.  

I can get on board with that, I just didn't have the guts to project that much(health, control/command, 3rd pitch) all coming together.  Plus even as an underslot the 2nd round carries a higher baseline of expectation because of who could've been picked in that spot(even at underslot prices).

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Just now, Transmogrified Tiger said:

I can get on board with that, I just didn't have the guts to project that much(health, control/command, 3rd pitch) all coming together.  Plus even as an underslot the 2nd round carries a higher baseline of expectation because of who could've been picked in that spot(even at underslot prices).

I'm with you.  As I said, I didn't like the pick at all.  Would have been easier to stomach if he came with a bigger underslot deal, but it is what it is.  Hopefully this pick had the Carter Hawkins stamp of approval.  He seems to really know his pitching.

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1 hour ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

Setting aside Shaw since I don't think that's really the point of your question, I'll vote for Sanders.  Guy had 1st round helium before this year and was a multi-year starter in the SEC, I wouldn't be surprised that a little bit of health and a little bit of pro instruction(mechanical and pitch dev) make him into a really good pick for the round/slot.

I go with this as well. His biggest weakness is a strength for the Cub's pitch lab/development team. I fully expect him to become a guy in 2024. Wiggins, on the other hand, I get that he has the biggest upside of the pitchers that were drafted, but thus far his weakness is not one the Cubs have been very good at developing so I don't have particularly high hopes there. 

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53 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

I go with this as well. His biggest weakness is a strength for the Cub's pitch lab/development team. I fully expect him to become a guy in 2024. Wiggins, on the other hand, I get that he has the biggest upside of the pitchers that were drafted, but thus far his weakness is not one the Cubs have been very good at developing so I don't have particularly high hopes there. 

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but his biggest weakness is that he cannot throw strikes. It also happens to be a glaring weakness of the pitching development team for the Cubs. 

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32 minutes ago, CubinNY said:

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but his biggest weakness is that he cannot throw strikes. It also happens to be a glaring weakness of the pitching development team for the Cubs. 

He was talking about Sanders, not Wiggins.  I made the same goof.  Sanders can throw strikes, it's just that he's been pretty hittable when he does.  He's a big dude and it's not hard to imagine the Cubs being able to take his fastball from 92-94 up to 94-96 to play with his good changeup and help him develop the slider.  

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1 minute ago, Hrubes20 said:

He was talking about Sanders, not Wiggins.  I made the same goof.  Sanders can throw strikes, it's just that he's been pretty hittable when he does.  He's a big dude and it's not hard to imagine the Cubs being able to take his fastball from 92-94 up to 94-96 to play with his good changeup and help him develop the slider.  

Sorry, Tryptamine

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Yeah, I was talking about Sanders who has a very straight hittable fastball. I have about 100 times more faith in them getting to add some movement to that fastball than I do for them to reign in the control of Wiggins.

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16 minutes ago, CaliforniaRaisin said:

If you account for the overage, that’s $242,425 more for one of the other 19 guys.

As expected.  Nice to get it done so quickly so he could theoretically get into games early.  

 

 

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The Cardinals just gave 6.3M to their #21 pick Chase Davis. That's a 2.7M overslot and basically equivalent to the slot allotment for the #7 pick. I didn't see anyone who expected anything near this.

Mlbtraderumors.com has now deleted the amounts, but the original tweet is still around

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3 hours ago, Tryptamine said:

The Cardinals just gave 6.3M to their #21 pick Chase Davis. That's a 2.7M overslot and basically equivalent to the slot allotment for the #7 pick. I didn't see anyone who expected anything near this.

Mlbtraderumors.com has now deleted the amounts, but the original tweet is still around

The original Cardinals beat writer who tweeted out the $6.3 bonus amount probably made a transposition error. Davis’ slot is ~$3.6 million and considering their other announced signing, they’d go well over 105% of their pool if they signed Davis at $6.3 million.

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In the past, I think we had a listing of all the draft picks in the first post and then that got updated with signing amounts as players signed.  That was a good quick reference to keep track of who had signed, rather than trying to parse through all the individual signing posts.

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