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Obviously, the first pick would be awesome just for the trade down haul they could get. But part of me wants them to get the first pick for all the Bears fans who stupidly attacked Louis Riddick and others on ESPN for even suggesting that the Bears would be the worst team in the league. Not that the #2 pick makes them any more right about everything, but I did argue on Twitter that while I didn't expect the Bears to be #1 pick bad, it certainly wasn't something to attack people for thinking. They clearly had one of the 3 least talented rosters in the league and an extremely tough schedule.

But I was told they had a top ten defense…

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The more I hear/read from him, the more I don't like.

 

Getsy or Schrock?

Getsy.

 

We've got to see what happens once Poles assembles an OL that'll be able pass block along with a full season of Mooney, Claypool before passing judgement on Getsy. Like it or not he was severely limited with the lack of talent this year. The onus is on Poles, last offseason one could almost justify him punting, this one, he's no excuse or limitations. The McCasky' should seriously consider replacing Poles if he can't put together an NFL caliber roster going into 2023.

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Getsy or Schrock?

Getsy.

 

We've got to see what happens once Poles assembles an OL that'll be able pass block along with a full season of Mooney, Claypool before passing judgement on Getsy. Like it or not he was severely limited with the lack of talent this year. The onus is on Poles, last offseason one could almost justify him punting, this one, he's no excuse or limitations. The McCasky' should seriously consider replacing Poles if he can't put together an NFL caliber roster going into 2023.

 

I'd like to better understand why we couldn't sustain that offensive outburst that we saw mid-season. I'm sure injuries to Mooney, Claypool and multiple offensive line guys played a big part but it seemed like the playcalling regressed a bit too, as did Fields performance. But we went from scoring ~28 points a game to scoring 15 points a game pretty quickly.

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Getsy.

 

We've got to see what happens once Poles assembles an OL that'll be able pass block along with a full season of Mooney, Claypool before passing judgement on Getsy. Like it or not he was severely limited with the lack of talent this year. The onus is on Poles, last offseason one could almost justify him punting, this one, he's no excuse or limitations. The McCasky' should seriously consider replacing Poles if he can't put together an NFL caliber roster going into 2023.

 

I'd like to better understand why we couldn't sustain that offensive outburst that we saw mid-season. I'm sure injuries to Mooney, Claypool and multiple offensive line guys played a big part but it seemed like the playcalling regressed a bit too, as did Fields performance. But we went from scoring ~28 points a game to scoring 15 points a game pretty quickly.

90% of it is explained in your own post, imo.

 

The other 10% is that he was in on the tank.

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There were definitely changes to play calling, though to be fair, the play calling during the hot stretch basically ran Fields into the ground, culminating in his injury.

 

So they need to figure out how to do more non-Fields things. There's definitely still legit questions about Getsy. The run game has been schemed wonderfully, but the pass game weakness isn't all personnel. Coaching needs to improve there. Personnel needs improvement. And Fields needs to clean stuff up. All of those are fair statements, but I think Fields is the least of those problems.

 

Put another way

 

Theres OLines as bad, if not worse than the Bears

Theres WR corps as bad, if not worse than the Bears

There's teams with scheme questions

There's teams with young QBs

 

I'm not sure any team matches the combined issues of the Bears. And Fields biggest crime is probably being young and inaccurate in the short game. They can aid him in the former short term and I hope the latter is fixable.

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Getsy.

 

We've got to see what happens once Poles assembles an OL that'll be able pass block along with a full season of Mooney, Claypool before passing judgement on Getsy. Like it or not he was severely limited with the lack of talent this year. The onus is on Poles, last offseason one could almost justify him punting, this one, he's no excuse or limitations. The McCasky' should seriously consider replacing Poles if he can't put together an NFL caliber roster going into 2023.

 

I'd like to better understand why we couldn't sustain that offensive outburst that we saw mid-season. I'm sure injuries to Mooney, Claypool and multiple offensive line guys played a big part but it seemed like the playcalling regressed a bit too, as did Fields performance. But we went from scoring ~28 points a game to scoring 15 points a game pretty quickly.

 

I think more than anything, that was unsustainable offense. The 5 week span they averaged almost 30 PPG, Fields still never threw for more than 180. They were still 1 dimensional for the most part as they ran for 240+ in the first 4 of those 30 point games (also did the game before they scored in bunches). They were extremely efficient in scoring, which isn't sustainable when you can't execute a simple drop back pass when everyone in the stadium knows you have to execute a dropback pass.

 

I think part of it was the injuries. I think part of it was the "tanking". I know they aren't intentionally losing out there or calling plays or strategies to lose, but IMO there was some clear not trying to win going on. And even in the 5 games since they stopped scoring a bunch of points, the Bears scored on their opening drive 4 times. And were a Dante Pettis 4th down drop away from scoring in all 5. And that included the Trevor Siemien game. And 2 of those games they only had 1 other scoring drive. That being said, maybe Getsy can't call plays after the scripted stuff. We honestly don't have enough data to determine that yet. But still, I think the biggest factor is that the offense was way to limited talent-wise, to sustain that level of scoring they showed in the middle of the season.

 

Also of note, the Bears had a similar offensive stretch in 2020 when they went back to Trubisky over Foles. They ran the ball a ton, moved the pocket a bunch, and then good defenses (Green Bay and New Orleans in the playoffs) just didn't let the Bears do the same stuff they did to score 40 vs the Texans and Lions.

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