Week 12: Bears @ Jets 12 CST on FOX

[UMFan83]

 

F that sucks

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If Justin Fields leads the Bears to a Super Bowl win, I want Russell Wilson to get a ring. The Bears NOT trading for him gave us Fields. And his ineptitude to lose horribly to the Panthers may help the Bears get a franchise changing trade for the 2nd overall pick.

Should it be Pete Carroll that gets the ring? I thought he came in and killed the trade.

That would have been the ultimate pace parting gift: three firsts traded for a dead russ on a trash team with no picks

 

Yeah, that's true.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

F that sucks

Complicates any extension talks.

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F that sucks

 

Interesting dilemma upcoming. Bears previously said they want to extend him. Do they lowball him after a down season (OL talent influenced) and an injury? Or do they pay him, in an offseason where they have to spend tons of money, based on his potential if they fix everything around him?

 

Sucks for Mooney a bunch.

 

What a week! The Bears legitimately ended this game without it's top 4 players (Fields, Mooney, Jackson, Brisker). Throw in Herbert and Gordon; and Smith and Quinn previously, and the Bears may have ended this game with the least amount of talent any team has put on the field in a very long time.

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In other news, the Packers have given up 103 yards rushing to Jalen Hurts in the 1st quarter, which includes a 0 and 1 yard carry.

[Derwood]

Raiders win.

 

This has been A WEEKEND for the tank.

 

I was enjoying the fact that the Raiders had won 3 games, 2 of which were against the Broncos. Guess I have to settle for 2 for 4

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I'm so torn about the GB game next week. I hate Rodgers and I want the Bears to bury him, but a meaningless win could cost them 7 or 8 spots in the draft. I'm hoping Fields doesn't play so I can tilt toward favoring a loss.

Luckily some of the bad teams won today so 1 win won't kill them. Hoping the Raiders beat the Seahawks.

 

Oh you definitely want to beat the Packers if Fields plays. If he doesn't, they can beat the Bears like the Jets just did. But if Fields plays and has to win 1 more game this season, this is the one you want. Draft position be damned.

 

The bad teams all play each other a bit this year. The Broncos and Rams are the other 3 win teams (neither have their picks) and they play each other, so at least one of them will win another 1 at least. Steelers also have 3 wins, but hopefully they can beat the Colts at home tomorrow night. The 4-win teams all play each other as well, so definitely worth hoping you can make up the losses if you take the GB game next week. Though, I'd imagine if they lose tonight and to the Bears, they'd probably shut down Rodgers and lose out with Love (though they still have winnable games vs. the Rams and Lions).

[WrigleyField 22]

Yup. Lots of common games to rack up Ws among the tank contenders.

 

[We Got The Whole 9]

Trading our 2nd for Claypool was really bad and will slightly tarnish what should be a super exciting off-season.

[UMFan83]

Trading our 2nd for Claypool was really bad and will slightly tarnish what should be a super exciting off-season.

 

I still agree with the logic with the crappy FA market. You are either picking WR 1st or 2nd round anyways so instead Claypool was that pick, not that he’s done a ton of impressive things so far. Not saying it was a great move, but a defensible one. Poles will make up for it when he picks up 2 future 1sts to move down 8 spots so someone can grab Stroud.

[itisallpartoftheplan]

That pass is an interception 98% of the time. How it was a TD is a mystery

 

It was a “tight window throw” by GB writers praying Fields isn’t a Guy.

 

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Trading our 2nd for Claypool was really bad and will slightly tarnish what should be a super exciting off-season.

 

I still agree with the logic with the crappy FA market. You are either picking WR 1st or 2nd round anyways so instead Claypool was that pick, not that he’s done a ton of impressive things so far. Not saying it was a great move, but a defensible one. Poles will make up for it when he picks up 2 future 1sts to move down 8 spots so someone can grab Stroud.

Mooney getting hurt also lends an opportunity for Fields to connect with Claypool the last 4-5 games as well, which was also the purpose of trading for him this year. I wish they could have held out for Jerry Jeudy, who is more of a man coverage better, but that's a guy Denver may want a 1 for, even if not, you'd probably still give up that early 2 and would not have these 8-9 games to work with him in 2022.

[WrigleyField 22]

Yea the Claypool trade always had some downside risk, but it's just the type of move you have to be willing to try.

 

Unfortunate they ended up losing a series of close games.

 

I'd love to see a 1st or 2nd round WR to pair with Mooney and Claypool. Particularly if they trade down to recoup picks. I think they can solve most of the D and OL issues in FA. Then trade down, get a WR, and 2/3 of DB, OL, DL within the first 60 picks. Be cooking.

[BigbadB]

I saw someone suggest that the Bears trade the 2nd overall pick (assuming that's where they end up) to the Lions for both of their first rounders. While I'm not sure if the Lions would be willing to trade both of them, they have to be a team willing to move up to get one of the prize QB's. And one of those picks could still put the Bears in play for one of Carter or Anderson while improving draft capital by trading back. Interesting idea. I woke up in the middle of the night last night and Draft Day was on, and now I can't wait for the draft. Maybe it's more because nice weather.....

 

Chicago sports isn't going to be fun until baseball starts.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Chicago sports isn't going to be fun until baseball starts.

It might not be a lot of fun then.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I don't think the end is written RE: Claypool. New city, new offense, he's still young

 

As for trade down partners, Seattle also makes sense

[WrigleyField 22]

I saw someone suggest that the Bears trade the 2nd overall pick (assuming that's where they end up) to the Lions for both of their first rounders. While I'm not sure if the Lions would be willing to trade both of them, they have to be a team willing to move up to get one of the prize QB's. And one of those picks could still put the Bears in play for one of Carter or Anderson while improving draft capital by trading back. Interesting idea. I woke up in the middle of the night last night and Draft Day was on, and now I can't wait for the draft. Maybe it's more because nice weather.....

 

Chicago sports isn't going to be fun until baseball starts.

At this rate Lions may get that second pick all by themselves from the Rams pick.

 

Rooting like hell for a Rams-Broncos tie when they play.

[Rex Buckingham]

I saw someone suggest that the Bears trade the 2nd overall pick (assuming that's where they end up) to the Lions for both of their first rounders. While I'm not sure if the Lions would be willing to trade both of them, they have to be a team willing to move up to get one of the prize QB's. And one of those picks could still put the Bears in play for one of Carter or Anderson while improving draft capital by trading back. Interesting idea. I woke up in the middle of the night last night and Draft Day was on, and now I can't wait for the draft. Maybe it's more because nice weather.....

 

Chicago sports isn't going to be fun until baseball starts.

 

Was kicking around a thought that maybe the Bears could trade 2 with maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder (not sure what the actual value chart would say) for the Lions picks (say they end up at 6 and 11) picking one of Carter, Anderson, Murphy, or whichever top OT you like at 6 then trading down from 11 for a late 1 and recoup that other pick sent to Detroit plus more and grab a WR late 1.

[CubinNY]

The jury is still out on Poles, but he will really have to nail this upcoming draft and free agency period because the Bears have next to nothing outside of RB, QB, and S. They basically need 15-18 starting players.

[gflore34]

I saw someone suggest that the Bears trade the 2nd overall pick (assuming that's where they end up) to the Lions for both of their first rounders. While I'm not sure if the Lions would be willing to trade both of them, they have to be a team willing to move up to get one of the prize QB's. And one of those picks could still put the Bears in play for one of Carter or Anderson while improving draft capital by trading back. Interesting idea. I woke up in the middle of the night last night and Draft Day was on, and now I can't wait for the draft. Maybe it's more because nice weather.....

 

Chicago sports isn't going to be fun until baseball starts.

 

Was kicking around a thought that maybe the Bears could trade 2 with maybe a 3rd or 4th rounder (not sure what the actual value chart would say) for the Lions picks (say they end up at 6 and 11) picking one of Carter, Anderson, Murphy, or whichever top OT you like at 6 then trading down from 11 for a late 1 and recoup that other pick sent to Detroit plus more and grab a WR late 1.

 

Smith-Njigba, I 'm generally not a fan of taking players who missed most of the season due to injury however, I believe he'll be available on Day 2. Would love to see the Bears grab him if he's still on the board.

[jumbo]

I woke up in the middle of the night last night and Draft Day was on, and now I can't wait for the draft.

 

I saw this the other day and it's like a pre-moneyball type scenario. Trading three firsts for a guy you haven't scouted, then actual draft day trades are nuts. I realize it's not supposed to be realistic (or made for NFL Draftniks) but it was like watching another sport. The actual draft resembles that movie about as much as baseball resembles cricket.

I still watched it cuz its a "fun" sports movie. And I think about the next draft pretty early, so its good subject matter.

[Soul]

The jury is still out on Poles, but he will really have to nail this upcoming draft and free agency period because the Bears have next to nothing outside of RB, QB, and S. They basically need 15-18 starting players.

Or a 2 year window of rebuild so he doesn't have to hit on all these picks/FA's, which seems nearly impossible. Someone isn't going to perform even though the college resume is solid or the FA acquisition makes sense.

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

[raw]

The jury is still out on Poles, but he will really have to nail this upcoming draft and free agency period because the Bears have next to nothing outside of RB, QB, and S. They basically need 15-18 starting players.

 

They are potentially losing their starting RB (is a FA) and one of the starting safeties (Jackson highest cap hit on roster, now injured). There's literally no position that they don't need, besides QB, which is ironically the only time it has never been the opposite way in Bears history.

[gflore34]

The jury is still out on Poles, but he will really have to nail this upcoming draft and free agency period because the Bears have next to nothing outside of RB, QB, and S. They basically need 15-18 starting players.

Or a 2 year window of rebuild so he doesn't have to hit on all these picks/FA's, which seems nearly impossible. Someone isn't going to perform even though the college resume is solid or the FA acquisition makes sense.

 

Was thinking about the upcoming offseason, while the Bears appear to have a bounty of resources to drastically change/improve their roster it's not idiot proof. This is the facet I'm concerned about; there's a possibility Poles may still horsefeathers it up. I'm not expecting every highly drafted player or FA signing to work however, I am expecting marked improvement on both sides of the ball along with beating the Packers.