Chicago Bears Offseason Thread (the tank must payoff)

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I lost track of where the cap space number was going to be but this is saying we were anticipating $110m - $120m and the actual figure is $92m

 

Yeah, I was noticing the changes there. They can get to 110M by cutting Whitehair (June 1), Justin Jones and Muhammad.

 

Fwiw, I would cut Jackson too.

 

I wouldn't, but I understand. He will be overpaid in 2023, but the Bears need to spend the money, so they might as well keep a still solid player. 2023 would be his last year as a Bear, unless they extend him, which doesn't really make sense at his age. But I think it'd be fine to keep him for this year. He's still productive, a leader, and took to the new defense with more turnovers and fewer missed tackles than in recent years.

[knoblejr]

Saw this one today. This kid would be a great addition to our d line. His play style would fit us well

 

Tuli Tuipulotu scouting report

[jumbo]

Saw this one today. This kid would be a great addition to our d line. His play style would fit us well

 

Tuli Tuipulotu scouting report

 

Good read. I’d love it if the bears got Anderson then a solid 3 technique right after.

Are you the scoring report analyst?

[UK]

 

Yeah, I was noticing the changes there. They can get to 110M by cutting Whitehair (June 1), Justin Jones and Muhammad.

 

Fwiw, I would cut Jackson too.

 

I wouldn't, but I understand. He will be overpaid in 2023, but the Bears need to spend the money, so they might as well keep a still solid player. 2023 would be his last year as a Bear, unless they extend him, which doesn't really make sense at his age. But I think it'd be fine to keep him for this year. He's still productive, a leader, and took to the new defense with more turnovers and fewer missed tackles than in recent years.

 

The only reason why I'd hang onto him would be the cap hit. Next year, the hit is much less. He's definitely overpaid coming off a serious injury.

[jersey cubs fan]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

[mul21]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

 

If he lasts as long as the predictions I saw indicate, Max Duggan seems like a solid bet. Decent size and speed, winning program, and a smart player.

[WrigleyField 22]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

No idea who, but I probably wouldn't consider before day 3 of draft.

 

I'm kind of expecting Siemian as QB2 again next year, but hopefully some lotto ticket more interesting than Peterman for the practice squad.

 

USFL and XFL both are playing this spring too right?

[UMFan83]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

 

I understand where you are coming from but I don't think the Bears have the luxury of using draft capital on a QB too many other holes to fill that are more likely to impact the team next year. Maybe a 7th if one makes sense or UDFA

[17 Seconds]

stupid question: will the trade of the number 1 pick happen on draft day, or could it happen before?

[WrigleyField 22]

stupid question: will the trade of the number 1 pick happen on draft day, or could it happen before?

Last time #1 was traded it happened 2 weeks before the draft.

 

The 49ers trade to #3 happened in like March.

[WrigleyField 22]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

 

I understand where you are coming from but I don't think the Bears have the luxury of using draft capital on a QB too many other holes to fill that are more likely to impact the team next year. Maybe a 7th if one makes sense or UDFA

Eh it's day 3. You're not drafting for day 1 needs.

[UMFan83]

stupid question: will the trade of the number 1 pick happen on draft day, or could it happen before?

Last time #1 was traded it happened 2 weeks before the draft.

 

The 49ers trade to #3 happened in like March.

 

Yeah its possible it doesn't happen until draft day but it seems much more likely that a trade is made anytime between now and a few days before the draft. A trade like this isn't a minor trade, it will radically alter team's draft plans, so the preference is to do it sooner.

[WrigleyField 22]

Want it to happen early so it opens up more "trade a 2024 FRP for a star" possibilities.

[raw]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

 

So, yeah I agree with you. I've argued so many times this season/offseason that Siemien is fine as a backup next year. And I don't like the thought of intentionally going after a guy because he's mobile like Fields. Just get the best guy you can find. That being said, yeah I'd certainly draft a QB this year, probably in the 7th. No 6th and 1 of the 5ths is super early, so you're looking at either the Ravens' 5th or a trade down to get one before the 7th.

 

With Brock Purdy's success, I imagine experienced starters will be all the rage. So, it's really hard to figure out where some of these guys might get picked. But the Day 3 guys SHOULD be guys like:

 

Stetson Bennett, Georgia- who is about 5'11", but everyone knows about him

Aidan O'Connell, Purdue- who had an article written this week that he could be the best QB in the draft (LOL). But a 2-year starter

Max Duggan, TCU- probably goes higher than I'd like to take him

Jake Haener, Fresno St- started 28 games in a pass heavy offense

Malik Cunningham, Louisville- super athletic, super skinny but can run.

Myles Brennan, LSU- he sucks, but he's like the only one with any kind of size here

Tanner Morgan, Minnesota- if I had to say anyone is similar to Purdy, this would be him

Clayton Tune, Houston- decent size, decent athlete, may go higher than I'd like too

Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA- similar to Cunningham in size & skillset, but probably a little better passer

Tyson Bagent, Shepherd- IDK anything about him but apparently people love his upside and he's at the Senior Bowl on Getsy's team

[UK]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

 

So, yeah I agree with you. I've argued so many times this season/offseason that Siemien is fine as a backup next year. And I don't like the thought of intentionally going after a guy because he's mobile like Fields. Just get the best guy you can find. That being said, yeah I'd certainly draft a QB this year, probably in the 7th. No 6th and 1 of the 5ths is super early, so you're looking at either the Ravens' 5th or a trade down to get one before the 7th.

 

With Brock Purdy's success, I imagine experienced starters will be all the rage. So, it's really hard to figure out where some of these guys might get picked. But the Day 3 guys SHOULD be guys like:

 

Stetson Bennett, Georgia- who is about 5'11", but everyone knows about him

Aidan O'Connell, Purdue- who had an article written this week that he could be the best QB in the draft (LOL). But a 2-year starter

Max Duggan, TCU- probably goes higher than I'd like to take him

Jake Haener, Fresno St- started 28 games in a pass heavy offense

Malik Cunningham, Louisville- super athletic, super skinny but can run.

Myles Brennan, LSU- he sucks, but he's like the only one with any kind of size here

Tanner Morgan, Minnesota- if I had to say anyone is similar to Purdy, this would be him

Clayton Tune, Houston- decent size, decent athlete, may go higher than I'd like too

Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA- similar to Cunningham in size & skillset, but probably a little better passer

Tyson Bagent, Shepherd- IDK anything about him but apparently people love his upside and he's at the Senior Bowl on Getsy's team

 

Despite his size, I love Lindsey Scott Jr.

[mul21]

Does the cap bump change the Bears off season math at all or was that already figured in to what everyone was projecting?

[raw]

Does the cap bump change the Bears off season math at all or was that already figured in to what everyone was projecting?

 

Cap was estimated at 225M and that was figured into projections. 224.8M is pretty much right on target.

[raw]

Which quarterbacks are you interested in the bears taking in the draft, and where? With Fields already getting battered, and his punishing style of play, you have to keep the supply chain of backups rolling. I have no interest in veterans. Maybe you get lucky and draft a guy you can trade down the line.

 

So, yeah I agree with you. I've argued so many times this season/offseason that Siemien is fine as a backup next year. And I don't like the thought of intentionally going after a guy because he's mobile like Fields. Just get the best guy you can find. That being said, yeah I'd certainly draft a QB this year, probably in the 7th. No 6th and 1 of the 5ths is super early, so you're looking at either the Ravens' 5th or a trade down to get one before the 7th.

 

With Brock Purdy's success, I imagine experienced starters will be all the rage. So, it's really hard to figure out where some of these guys might get picked. But the Day 3 guys SHOULD be guys like:

 

Stetson Bennett, Georgia- who is about 5'11", but everyone knows about him

Aidan O'Connell, Purdue- who had an article written this week that he could be the best QB in the draft (LOL). But a 2-year starter

Max Duggan, TCU- probably goes higher than I'd like to take him

Jake Haener, Fresno St- started 28 games in a pass heavy offense

Malik Cunningham, Louisville- super athletic, super skinny but can run.

Myles Brennan, LSU- he sucks, but he's like the only one with any kind of size here

Tanner Morgan, Minnesota- if I had to say anyone is similar to Purdy, this would be him

Clayton Tune, Houston- decent size, decent athlete, may go higher than I'd like too

Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA- similar to Cunningham in size & skillset, but probably a little better passer

Tyson Bagent, Shepherd- IDK anything about him but apparently people love his upside and he's at the Senior Bowl on Getsy's team

 

Despite his size, I love Lindsey Scott Jr.

 

Honestly, not familiar with him at all. I'll check him out.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

So, yeah I agree with you. I've argued so many times this season/offseason that Siemien is fine as a backup next year. And I don't like the thought of intentionally going after a guy because he's mobile like Fields. Just get the best guy you can find. That being said, yeah I'd certainly draft a QB this year, probably in the 7th. No 6th and 1 of the 5ths is super early, so you're looking at either the Ravens' 5th or a trade down to get one before the 7th.

 

With Brock Purdy's success, I imagine experienced starters will be all the rage. So, it's really hard to figure out where some of these guys might get picked. But the Day 3 guys SHOULD be guys like:

 

Stetson Bennett, Georgia- who is about 5'11", but everyone knows about him

Aidan O'Connell, Purdue- who had an article written this week that he could be the best QB in the draft (LOL). But a 2-year starter

Max Duggan, TCU- probably goes higher than I'd like to take him

Jake Haener, Fresno St- started 28 games in a pass heavy offense

Malik Cunningham, Louisville- super athletic, super skinny but can run.

Myles Brennan, LSU- he sucks, but he's like the only one with any kind of size here

Tanner Morgan, Minnesota- if I had to say anyone is similar to Purdy, this would be him

Clayton Tune, Houston- decent size, decent athlete, may go higher than I'd like too

Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA- similar to Cunningham in size & skillset, but probably a little better passer

Tyson Bagent, Shepherd- IDK anything about him but apparently people love his upside and he's at the Senior Bowl on Getsy's team

 

Despite his size, I love Lindsey Scott Jr.

 

Honestly, not familiar with him at all. I'll check him out.

 

He could hang out with Velus Jones at the bingo hall

[UMFan83]

 

I haven't had a chance to dig through the numbers yet, but this redditor put together a ridiculous amount of data about Fields both last year and this year. Just skimming it, there is a ton of interesting info here.

Edited January 31, 2023 by UMFan83

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I haven't had a chance to dig through the numbers yet, but this redditor put together a ridiculous amount of data about Fields both last year and this year. Just skimming it, there is a ton of interesting info here.

This is awesome. I've done some of this on a ad hoc basis, but this is just... All of it

[UK]

 

So, yeah I agree with you. I've argued so many times this season/offseason that Siemien is fine as a backup next year. And I don't like the thought of intentionally going after a guy because he's mobile like Fields. Just get the best guy you can find. That being said, yeah I'd certainly draft a QB this year, probably in the 7th. No 6th and 1 of the 5ths is super early, so you're looking at either the Ravens' 5th or a trade down to get one before the 7th.

 

With Brock Purdy's success, I imagine experienced starters will be all the rage. So, it's really hard to figure out where some of these guys might get picked. But the Day 3 guys SHOULD be guys like:

 

Stetson Bennett, Georgia- who is about 5'11", but everyone knows about him

Aidan O'Connell, Purdue- who had an article written this week that he could be the best QB in the draft (LOL). But a 2-year starter

Max Duggan, TCU- probably goes higher than I'd like to take him

Jake Haener, Fresno St- started 28 games in a pass heavy offense

Malik Cunningham, Louisville- super athletic, super skinny but can run.

Myles Brennan, LSU- he sucks, but he's like the only one with any kind of size here

Tanner Morgan, Minnesota- if I had to say anyone is similar to Purdy, this would be him

Clayton Tune, Houston- decent size, decent athlete, may go higher than I'd like too

Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA- similar to Cunningham in size & skillset, but probably a little better passer

Tyson Bagent, Shepherd- IDK anything about him but apparently people love his upside and he's at the Senior Bowl on Getsy's team

 

Despite his size, I love Lindsey Scott Jr.

 

Honestly, not familiar with him at all. I'll check him out.

 

Been an interesting journey....

 

LSU

Last Chance U

Mizzou

Nichols St.

UIW

 

Those are the colleges he attended....

 

24 yo.

 

Mobile, accuracy is plus, avg. arm strength... Walter Payton athlete of the year. Broke FCS record for TDs.

 

Very good showing at predraft events..

[raw]

 

Despite his size, I love Lindsey Scott Jr.

 

Honestly, not familiar with him at all. I'll check him out.

 

Been an interesting journey....

 

LSU

Last Chance U

Mizzou

Nichols St.

UIW

 

Those are the colleges he attended....

 

24 yo.

 

Mobile, accuracy is plus, avg. arm strength... Walter Payton athlete of the year. Broke FCS record for TDs.

 

Very good showing at predraft events..

 

Oh OK. I have actually heard of him. I remember him at LSU and I saw him at Incarnate Word and Nichols the last couple years in the FCS. Watched his playoff game vs. No Dakota State this year.

[CubinNY]

Sully off his meds again on twitter

 

[Tryptamine]

The hottest of hot takes, so bad that you can't help but cringe as a fellow Chicago fan.