Chicago Bears Offseason Thread (the tank must payoff)

[CubinNY]

Best available in what way? The only option with a 2024 FRP?

Something like that.

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If this was the best available offer, would you be happy if the Bears dropped all the way to 9th and also got the Panther's two 2nd-round picks and the 1st round in 2024?

 

Thinking on it, I'd be okay with it. The future 1st would be great since there's no guarantee Carolina will be good next year, and those 2nd round picks would be great in my "trade back into the 1st" scenario.

 

I want a ransom, but if that's what the market is, so be it.

 

I'd take any trade with a 2 this year and 1 next year coming back, assuming there were no other better offers. I do think Carolina will be good, though obviously, no guarantee. Weak division, they'd be favorites with QB1 in this draft.

[WrigleyField 22]

There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

[minnesotacubsfan]

If this was the best available offer, would you be happy if the Bears dropped all the way to 9th and also got the Panther's two 2nd-round picks and the 1st round in 2024?

2) 1's and 2) 2's would be decent, but I'd worry that Carolina will be drafting in the 20's next year. Add a 3rd for my heartache

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There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

Yeah, I read that too. Any guesses who the 7 are? Assuming none are QBs, I'd think: Will Anderson, Devon Witherspoon, Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Christian Gonzalez, Peter Skoronski, and depending on how they feel about the recent off-field stuff, Jalen Carter.

 

I know they met with Bijan Robinson too, and he's as good of a talent as there is in this draft, but IDK if they'd consider him #1 overall.

[UMFan83]

There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

I saw a mock earlier today that had the Bears ending up with the following haul via 2 trades: Will Anderson (1.04), 2024 1st (HOU), 2024 1st (IND), 2023 2nd (HOU), 2023 2nd (IND), 2023 3rd (IND). Imagine getting 2 1st's, 2 2nd's and a 3rd while still getting the top player off the board.

 

I'm trying not to let my mind drift too much here because its bound to lead to disappointment

[WrigleyField 22]

There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

Yeah, I read that too. Any guesses who the 7 are? Assuming none are QBs, I'd think: Will Anderson, Devon Witherspoon, Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Christian Gonzalez, Peter Skoronski, and depending on how they feel about the recent off-field stuff, Jalen Carter.

 

I know they met with Bijan Robinson too, and he's as good of a talent as there is in this draft, but IDK if they'd consider him #1 overall.

Now this article treating it like it's 7 total, presumably counting QBs. Which I guess is how a team should do the grading. So maybe 7 is his floor

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-insider-says-bears-comfort-205726794.html?src=rss

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There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

I saw a mock earlier today that had the Bears ending up with the following haul via 2 trades: Will Anderson (1.04), 2024 1st (HOU), 2024 1st (IND), 2023 2nd (HOU), 2023 2nd (IND), 2023 3rd (IND). Imagine getting 2 1st's, 2 2nd's and a 3rd while still getting the top player off the board.

 

I'm trying not to let my mind drift too much here because its bound to lead to disappointment

 

No way Houston gives up a future 1st. I don't think the Colts do either unless they get ahead of Houston.

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There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

Yeah, I read that too. Any guesses who the 7 are? Assuming none are QBs, I'd think: Will Anderson, Devon Witherspoon, Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Christian Gonzalez, Peter Skoronski, and depending on how they feel about the recent off-field stuff, Jalen Carter.

 

I know they met with Bijan Robinson too, and he's as good of a talent as there is in this draft, but IDK if they'd consider him #1 overall.

Now this article treating it like it's 7 total, presumably counting QBs. Which I guess is how a team should do the grading. So maybe 7 is his floor

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-insider-says-bears-comfort-205726794.html?src=rss

 

7 players doesn't necessarily equal 7 spots though. Even if the Bears do have QBs included in that 7, I'd doubt they'd have Will Levis and Anthony Richardson in that 7, so if they go top 5, then they could move back to 9. They basically have to feel safe enough that 1 of their 7 will be on the board wherever they do go, which could be 9, could be 11 depending on who goes that they don't want.

[minnesotacubsfan]

There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

I saw a mock earlier today that had the Bears ending up with the following haul via 2 trades: Will Anderson (1.04), 2024 1st (HOU), 2024 1st (IND), 2023 2nd (HOU), 2023 2nd (IND), 2023 3rd (IND). Imagine getting 2 1st's, 2 2nd's and a 3rd while still getting the top player off the board.

 

I'm trying not to let my mind drift too much here because its bound to lead to disappointment

 

No way Houston gives up a future 1st. I don't think the Colts do either unless they get ahead of Houston.

I could see Indy trading (2) 1sts to get to #2, all it would take is rumors of an AZ trade out of #3, and those are already swirling

[jersey cubs fan]

Who had Blasingame on the “which current bear will be first to sign a multi year extension” bingo card?

[UMFan83]

Who had Blasingame on the “which current bear will be first to sign a multi year extension” bingo card?

 

Poles found his David Bote

[CubinNY]

Who had Blasingame on the “which current bear will be first to sign a multi year extension” bingo card?

lol

 

"Although Blasingame did not have a rushing attempt or a reception in the 2022 season, he played 174 snaps – 18 percent – for the NFL’s No. 1 rushing offense. Blasingame also was on the field for 215 special-teams plays during the 2022 season."

 

https://www.al.com/sports/2023/03/former-alabama-prep-standout-staying-with-chicago-on-two-year-deal.html

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2-years, but I'm sure it's not any real money or guarantees. Hopefully, they bring in someone that can at least challenge him for playing time. I like Hunter Luepke from North Dakota St and Brayden Willis from Oklahoma as late draft picks. Luepke is more of a true FB, who can run the ball in short yardage and catch swing passes. Willis is more of an H-back who can give you some reps at in-line TE if necessary. Not a runner, but a good pass catcher. Bears don't have enough weapons to have a non-ball productive FB.

[ChiCubsFan]

 

I saw a mock earlier today that had the Bears ending up with the following haul via 2 trades: Will Anderson (1.04), 2024 1st (HOU), 2024 1st (IND), 2023 2nd (HOU), 2023 2nd (IND), 2023 3rd (IND). Imagine getting 2 1st's, 2 2nd's and a 3rd while still getting the top player off the board.

 

I'm trying not to let my mind drift too much here because its bound to lead to disappointment

 

No way Houston gives up a future 1st. I don't think the Colts do either unless they get ahead of Houston.

I could see Indy trading (2) 1sts to get to #2, all it would take is rumors of an AZ trade out of #3, and those are already swirling

 

Stroud and Richardson impressing is good news for our trade down to 4, but potentially bad news for our trade of 1>2. Really need Bryce Young to wow on his pro day like Zach Wilson did (lol)

[pitchcs]

There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

Yeah, I read that too. Any guesses who the 7 are? Assuming none are QBs, I'd think: Will Anderson, Devon Witherspoon, Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Christian Gonzalez, Peter Skoronski, and depending on how they feel about the recent off-field stuff, Jalen Carter.

 

I know they met with Bijan Robinson too, and he's as good of a talent as there is in this draft, but IDK if they'd consider him #1 overall.

 

Drafting an OG at 1 overall would sure be something

[CubinNY]

There's probably offers in the 2 to 4 range that I could come up with that wouldn't have the next year FRP, but I'd take over dropping to 9.

 

On the other hand, I think I read somewhere that Poles had 7 guys he liked at 1. Assuming that was 7 non QBs, then he should gladly drop to 9 and still get one of his top tier guys.

 

Yeah, I read that too. Any guesses who the 7 are? Assuming none are QBs, I'd think: Will Anderson, Devon Witherspoon, Tyree Wilson, Myles Murphy, Christian Gonzalez, Peter Skoronski, and depending on how they feel about the recent off-field stuff, Jalen Carter.

 

I know they met with Bijan Robinson too, and he's as good of a talent as there is in this draft, but IDK if they'd consider him #1 overall.

 

Drafting an OG at 1 overall would sure be something

I was physically at the draft when Orlando Pace was taken 1.1. I also met him the night before the draft at the ESPN Zone (is that still a bar) at the bar and introduced myself as an OSU alum. He was just there with about 4 friends hanging out and having a drink. He already knew he was going to be drafted first. That is one of my only brushes with fame.

[Derwood]

I can't believe this draft is still 7 weeks away. The NFL needs to have its draft right after the season like the NBA

[CubinNY]

How much of an impact on the trade down will Stafford's availability have on the Bears?

 

https://www.wfxrtv.com/sports/sports-illustrated/e47909ba/report-rams-calling-teams-about-trading-matthew-stafford/#:~:text=The%20Rams%20have%20reportedly%20been,%E2%80%9Clove%20to%20trade%20him.%E2%80%9D

[WrigleyField 22]

How much of an impact on the trade down will Stafford's availability have on the Bears?

 

https://www.wfxrtv.com/sports/sports-illustrated/e47909ba/report-rams-calling-teams-about-trading-matthew-stafford/#:~:text=The%20Rams%20have%20reportedly%20been,%E2%80%9Clove%20to%20trade%20him.%E2%80%9D

Very little I'd imagine. I don't know that any teams looking to trade up are distracted by vet QB options right now.

 

Maybe Las Vegas is the one I could see going either way.

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Bears got a 7th round comp pick. Pick #255 overall, second to last pick.

[UMFan83]

 

I don't understand quote how comp picks are distributed. How the hell did the 49ers get 7 picks - 3 of them after the 3rd round, and how do we game the system like that?

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I don't understand quote how comp picks are distributed. How the hell did the 49ers get 7 picks - 3 of them after the 3rd round, and how do we game the system like that?

The 3rd rounders for 49ers are all for minority candidates being hired I think.

 

So get Alan Williams and Ian Cunningham HC/GM jobs (after next year).

 

The other comp picks are basically just by losing more good players than signing good players in FA. Though details are a bit more complicated than that. There used to be a few easily exploited loopholes, but those are basically closed.

 

Sooo draft well (such you can't keep all your second contract guys) and have diverse hiring/promotion practices.

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I don't understand quote how comp picks are distributed. How the hell did the 49ers get 7 picks - 3 of them after the 3rd round, and how do we game the system like that?

The 3rd rounders for 49ers are all for minority candidates being hired I think.

 

So get Alan Williams and Ian Cunningham HC/GM jobs (after next year).

 

The other comp picks are basically just by losing more good players than signing good players in FA. Though details are a bit more complicated than that. There used to be a few easily exploited loopholes, but those are basically closed.

 

Sooo draft well (such you can't keep all your second contract guys) and have diverse hiring/promotion practices.

 

Bears were the last to exploit that loophole by cutting Mike Davis in 2019 before what used to be the deadline for him to be considered having a full season. Davis went on to be useful for another team and has had a couple decent years since.

[WrigleyField 22]

 

I don't understand quote how comp picks are distributed. How the hell did the 49ers get 7 picks - 3 of them after the 3rd round, and how do we game the system like that?

The 3rd rounders for 49ers are all for minority candidates being hired I think.

 

So get Alan Williams and Ian Cunningham HC/GM jobs (after next year).

 

The other comp picks are basically just by losing more good players than signing good players in FA. Though details are a bit more complicated than that. There used to be a few easily exploited loopholes, but those are basically closed.

 

Sooo draft well (such you can't keep all your second contract guys) and have diverse hiring/promotion practices.

 

Bears were the last to exploit that loophole by cutting Mike Davis in 2019 before what used to be the deadline for him to be considered having a full season. Davis went on to be useful for another team and has had a couple decent years since.

That was one loophole. The one the Ravens just abused for years was the option loophole. Nearly every contract they gave out had team options in years 3-5. So rather than cut guys, they declined an option and kept the comp value. Now guys have to see through the full max term of the contract. The Bears actually tried this loophole for the first time with the Bobby Massie contract and right after they signed the deal, the league closed that loophole lol.