Week 9 Dolphins @ Bears (+4.5) - Noon, CBS

[WrigleyField 22]

Yea, I like it a lot less being their own 2.

 

But I think we can safely put to rest concerns that Poles doesn't understand modern positional valuation.

 

In absolutely vaccum the Roquan trade is alike a B and this one a C-. Altogether, I think it's a win though.

 

Honestly though, let's see if Poles has anymore moves in him.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Yea, I like it a lot less being their own 2.

 

But I think we can safely put to rest concerns that Poles doesn't understand modern positional valuation.

 

In absolutely vaccum the Roquan trade is alike a B and this one a C-. Altogether, I think it's a win though.

 

Honestly though, let's see if Poles has anymore moves in him.

 

B, B-. Claypool has the talent to be a teams #1 and that is a huge hole in our roster. This also means taking a stud DT in the 1st round is also now possible, and there will still be plenty of interior line help at the later 2nd round pick

[gflore34]

Yea, I like it a lot less being their own 2.

 

But I think we can safely put to rest concerns that Poles doesn't understand modern positional valuation.

 

In absolutely vaccum the Roquan trade is alike a B and this one a C-. Altogether, I think it's a win though.

 

Honestly though, let's see if Poles has anymore moves in him.

 

B, B-. Claypool has the talent to be a teams #1 and that is a huge hole in our roster. This also means taking a stud DT in the 1st round is also now possible, and there will still be plenty of interior line help at the later 2nd round pick

 

I'd assign a probability of almost 1 (almost surely) that with a top five pick we're looking at Anderson, Murphy or Carter as the Bears' first pick in the 2023 draft.

[Brian707]

Good trade, let's hope the Ravens go on a tailspin

[gflore34]

Scoring points is not going to be problem for the Bears in this game, keeping the Dolphins from scoring 40+ is going to be dicey. That's OK I'd much rather watch the Bears light up the score board and lose 42 - 35. Way more fun than some meddling losing a 16 - 9 game.

[raw]

Anyone have the broadcast maps for this one?

[raw]

Scoring points is not going to be problem for the Bears in this game, keeping the Dolphins from scoring 40+ is going to be dicey. That's OK I'd much rather watch the Bears light up the score board and lose 42 - 35. Way more fun than some meddling losing a 16 - 9 game.

 

I now wish the Smith/Claypool trades happened a week ago so Chase could be up to speed for this one. The Dolphins pass D is atrocious. 275 yards per game with a 100 QB rating against. Just allowed 300 yards to Goff. Allowed 300 to Lamar running the same offense Fields has in the last 2. The Dolphins haven't rushed the passer very well either. Chubb will help with that, but not sure how much this week. Assuming he doesn't get 50-60 reps, the Bears may be able to protect Fields much better than they have the last few weeks. They've faced some of the best pass rushes in the last 3-4 games. If ever there was a game where Justin throws 35 times.....

[jersey cubs fan]

Anyone have the broadcast maps for this one?

Think that’s a Wednesday thing

[gflore34]

Scoring points is not going to be problem for the Bears in this game, keeping the Dolphins from scoring 40+ is going to be dicey. That's OK I'd much rather watch the Bears light up the score board and lose 42 - 35. Way more fun than some meddling losing a 16 - 9 game.

 

I now wish the Smith/Claypool trades happened a week ago so Chase could be up to speed for this one. The Dolphins pass D is atrocious. 275 yards per game with a 100 QB rating against. Just allowed 300 yards to Goff. Allowed 300 to Lamar running the same offense Fields has in the last 2. The Dolphins haven't rushed the passer very well either. Chubb will help with that, but not sure how much this week. Assuming he doesn't get 50-60 reps, the Bears may be able to protect Fields much better than they have the last few weeks. They've faced some of the best pass rushes in the last 3-4 games. If ever there was a game where Justin throws 35 times.....

 

Was just glancing at some of their box scores how the hell they did beat the Bills? The Bills had 400+ yards of offense, had 40+ minutes TOP, must have been TO's.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Anyone have the broadcast maps for this one?

Not until Wednesday noon eastern time

[WrigleyField 22]

Scoring points is not going to be problem for the Bears in this game, keeping the Dolphins from scoring 40+ is going to be dicey. That's OK I'd much rather watch the Bears light up the score board and lose 42 - 35. Way more fun than some meddling losing a 16 - 9 game.

 

I now wish the Smith/Claypool trades happened a week ago so Chase could be up to speed for this one. The Dolphins pass D is atrocious. 275 yards per game with a 100 QB rating against. Just allowed 300 yards to Goff. Allowed 300 to Lamar running the same offense Fields has in the last 2. The Dolphins haven't rushed the passer very well either. Chubb will help with that, but not sure how much this week. Assuming he doesn't get 50-60 reps, the Bears may be able to protect Fields much better than they have the last few weeks. They've faced some of the best pass rushes in the last 3-4 games. If ever there was a game where Justin throws 35 times.....

His best route is the go route anyways. He can get up to speed enough for 30ish plays I bet. Use that ND education lol

[minnesotacubsfan]

Scoring points is not going to be problem for the Bears in this game, keeping the Dolphins from scoring 40+ is going to be dicey. That's OK I'd much rather watch the Bears light up the score board and lose 42 - 35. Way more fun than some meddling losing a 16 - 9 game.

 

I now wish the Smith/Claypool trades happened a week ago so Chase could be up to speed for this one. The Dolphins pass D is atrocious. 275 yards per game with a 100 QB rating against. Just allowed 300 yards to Goff. Allowed 300 to Lamar running the same offense Fields has in the last 2. The Dolphins haven't rushed the passer very well either. Chubb will help with that, but not sure how much this week. Assuming he doesn't get 50-60 reps, the Bears may be able to protect Fields much better than they have the last few weeks. They've faced some of the best pass rushes in the last 3-4 games. If ever there was a game where Justin throws 35 times.....

His best route is the go route anyways. He can get up to speed enough for 30ish plays I bet. Use that ND education lol

 

would it be against the law to let Claypool and Mooney go deep ever 2-3 downs or so? one of them is bound to get open, and if not the under stuff will be.

 

I mean surely Claypool can do that!

[jersey cubs fan]

Scoring points is not going to be problem for the Bears in this game, keeping the Dolphins from scoring 40+ is going to be dicey. That's OK I'd much rather watch the Bears light up the score board and lose 42 - 35. Way more fun than some meddling losing a 16 - 9 game.

 

I now wish the Smith/Claypool trades happened a week ago so Chase could be up to speed for this one. The Dolphins pass D is atrocious. 275 yards per game with a 100 QB rating against. Just allowed 300 yards to Goff. Allowed 300 to Lamar running the same offense Fields has in the last 2. The Dolphins haven't rushed the passer very well either. Chubb will help with that, but not sure how much this week. Assuming he doesn't get 50-60 reps, the Bears may be able to protect Fields much better than they have the last few weeks. They've faced some of the best pass rushes in the last 3-4 games. If ever there was a game where Justin throws 35 times.....

 

Was just glancing at some of their box scores how the hell they did beat the Bills? The Bills had 400+ yards of offense, had 40+ minutes TOP, must have been TO's.

According to the box score buffalo had one turnover, miami 0. That was turn butt punt game that gave Buffalo a safety.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Bears offense, maybe actually average (even though the basis of that is 100% about running ability)

 

 

Their defense: bad, and just got worse. The SoS outlook... Very skewed, and maybe gonna leave for some weird not at all Bears like games.

 

The next 9 weeks is the closest thing to must watch football as can be for a team not in the playoff hunt running a glorified wing T offense.

 

Yes please. Give me all of this

[WrigleyField 22]

 

Yes please. Give me all of this

And they added a WR with two 60/860 seasons since I made this post!

 

Losing every week 49-35 is gonna be so freaky-weird (except the reverse for DET x2)

 

Oh and when they lose 63-14 to Buffalo. But maybe they'll be coasting by Christmas Eve.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Yes please. Give me all of this

And they added a WR with two 60/860 seasons since I made this post!

 

Losing every week 49-35 is gonna be so freaky-weird (except the reverse for DET x2)

 

Oh and when they lose 63-14 to Buffalo. But maybe they'll be coasting by Christmas Eve.

 

wut if they start winning 40-38

 

[BigbadB]

It's definitely going to be fun this offseason discussing how Poles intends to improve this team.

[Old Style]

It's definitely going to be fun this offseason discussing how Poles intends to improve this team.

And then it will be soul crushing when he fucks it up and we miss the playoff again next season.

[gflore34]

It's definitely going to be fun this offseason discussing how Poles intends to improve this team.

And then it will be soul crushing when he horsefeathers it up and we miss the playoff again next season.

 

It may take more than one draft and FA class to get a playoff qualifying roster, doesn't mean we cannot expect significant improvement on both side of the ball in 2023.

[gflore34]

Listening to the score in the background and boy, are they still hung up on defense. "This game worries me, the Dolphins have sooooooo may weapons, no Roquan Smith cripples the defense", blah, blah, blah, they just don't get it, today's NFL is all about offense. Even the last few Super Bowl winners allowed 20+ points/game and 5+ yards/play - outscore the opposition, build an offense, score, score, score. Moreover, an exciting loss is entertaining and helps the draft position to possibly facilitate the D line so they can talk more defense. The only one who gets it, and it pains me to write it, is Bernstein. This and, they talk about the White Sox way too horsefeathering much. Edited November 2, 2022 by gflore34

[Old Style]

It's definitely going to be fun this offseason discussing how Poles intends to improve this team.

And then it will be soul crushing when he horsefeathers it up and we miss the playoff again next season.

 

It may take more than one draft and FA class to get a playoff qualifying roster, doesn't mean we cannot expect significant improvement on both side of the ball in 2023.

Look at what the division projects out to be in 2023. If we can't compete with the Vikings for first next season I'd consider that a giant failure. Making the playoffs should be an expectation next year. A few years should be when we are looking at deep playoff runs.

[raw]

Listening to the score in the background and boy, are they still hung up on defense. "This game worries me, the Dolphins have sooooooo may weapons, no Roquan Smith cripples the defense", blah, blah, blah, they just don't get it, today's NFL is all about offense. Even the last few Super Bowl winners allowed 20+ points/game and 5+ yards/play - outscore the opposition, build an offense, score, score, score. Moreover, an exciting loss is entertaining and helps the draft position to possibly facilitate the D line so they can talk more defense. The only one who gets it, and it pains me to write it, is Bernstein. This and, they talk about the White Sox way too horsefeathering much.

 

To play devil's advocate, we saw this approach under Trestman. Best offense the Bears have had and a historically bad defense ruined the season. The Bears have a ways to go to get to a 20ppg, 5 y/p defense after losing Roquan. Quinn isn't a big factor, but Smith was....and they already needed pretty much everything else on the front 7.

 

But yeah, I don't care about a crippled defense in a rebuilding season. But they are going to have to put significant resources into that side of the ball this offseason as well. Not just on the offensive side.

[gflore34]

Listening to the score in the background and boy, are they still hung up on defense. "This game worries me, the Dolphins have sooooooo may weapons, no Roquan Smith cripples the defense", blah, blah, blah, they just don't get it, today's NFL is all about offense. Even the last few Super Bowl winners allowed 20+ points/game and 5+ yards/play - outscore the opposition, build an offense, score, score, score. Moreover, an exciting loss is entertaining and helps the draft position to possibly facilitate the D line so they can talk more defense. The only one who gets it, and it pains me to write it, is Bernstein. This and, they talk about the White Sox way too horsefeathering much.

 

To play devil's advocate, we saw this approach under Trestman. Best offense the Bears have had and a historically bad defense ruined the season. The Bears have a ways to go to get to a 20ppg, 5 y/p defense after losing Roquan. Quinn isn't a big factor, but Smith was....and they already needed pretty much everything else on the front 7.

 

But yeah, I don't care about a crippled defense in a rebuilding season. But they are going to have to put significant resources into that side of the ball this offseason as well. Not just on the offensive side.

 

I understand that and, I think Poles will address the defense with the draft and FA but, as you said, who cares about a crippled defense in a rebuilding season.

[UMFan83]

Listening to the score in the background and boy, are they still hung up on defense. "This game worries me, the Dolphins have sooooooo may weapons, no Roquan Smith cripples the defense", blah, blah, blah, they just don't get it, today's NFL is all about offense. Even the last few Super Bowl winners allowed 20+ points/game and 5+ yards/play - outscore the opposition, build an offense, score, score, score. Moreover, an exciting loss is entertaining and helps the draft position to possibly facilitate the D line so they can talk more defense. The only one who gets it, and it pains me to write it, is Bernstein. This and, they talk about the White Sox way too horsefeathering much.

 

To play devil's advocate, we saw this approach under Trestman. Best offense the Bears have had and a historically bad defense ruined the season. The Bears have a ways to go to get to a 20ppg, 5 y/p defense after losing Roquan. Quinn isn't a big factor, but Smith was....and they already needed pretty much everything else on the front 7.

 

But yeah, I don't care about a crippled defense in a rebuilding season. But they are going to have to put significant resources into that side of the ball this offseason as well. Not just on the offensive side.

 

I think he's just talking about this season. No way Eberflus is going to be happy with an all offense/no defense team long term.

[Rex Buckingham]

Now that we went and got a WR that should (when paired with Mooney and maybe a decent FA WR or a 3rd/4th rd pick) give us at least a solid group of WRs, maybe we get a guy at DT or EDGE (or both!) that can be a disruptor through the draft/FA and make a big difference. Jalen Carter or Will Anderson or Myles Murphy maybe in the draft if we can get some good tank losses. If we could split with Detroit (their D is so bad and Jared Goff is their QB so I would expect we manage 1 win) that would be huge.