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Oh my god are the Packers finally Bad? Of course if they are, it would happen in a year where the Bears are in full collapse mode.

 

Still, would be nice if they were Bad and were Bad for a prolonged period of time

 

Yeah what are the odds this would happen in a year where the Bears are bad?

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Oh my god are the Packers finally Bad? Of course if they are, it would happen in a year where the Bears are in full collapse mode.

 

Still, would be nice if they were Bad and were Bad for a prolonged period of time

 

Yeah what are the odds this would happen in a year where the Bears are bad?

I feel like I *may* be sensing some sarcasm here.

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i mean he's still one of the greatest qbs of all time and that'll never be taken away from him but its about time he goes away forever

 

its only fair that green bay now suffers 30 years of pain and irrelevance, like we have (will that happen? of course not, even if they have a tough season this year they'll magically acquire and develop the next greatest QB of all time)

Seriously, why is Rodgers considered one of the goats? He’s been really, really good but his teams have flopped in the playoffs all but one season. How is he better than say, Stafford, who’s never been in the same conversation?

 

Last year with a ton of talent around him Stafford still led the league in picks thrown with 17. Aaron Rodgers played 64 games the last four seasons and threw 15 interceptions total. Stafford is a fine QB but to mention him in the same breath as Rodgers is laughable.

 

Is Drew Brees basically the same as Matt Stafford too? His teams flopped in the playoffs in all but one season.

With the caveat that I cannot be unbiased on this, Drew joined a broken franchise that was a historical laughing stock and immediately took them within one game of the SB. It’s pretty much him or Brady for leader in every statistical passing category in NFL history. Not even the same conversation.

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Seriously, why is Rodgers considered one of the goats? He’s been really, really good but his teams have flopped in the playoffs all but one season. How is he better than say, Stafford, who’s never been in the same conversation?

 

Last year with a ton of talent around him Stafford still led the league in picks thrown with 17. Aaron Rodgers played 64 games the last four seasons and threw 15 interceptions total. Stafford is a fine QB but to mention him in the same breath as Rodgers is laughable.

 

Is Drew Brees basically the same as Matt Stafford too? His teams flopped in the playoffs in all but one season.

With the caveat that I cannot be unbiased on this, Drew joined a broken franchise that was a historical laughing stock and immediately took them within one game of the SB. It’s pretty much him or Brady for leader in every statistical passing category in NFL history. Not even the same conversation.

 

I was just going by the criteria you put forward in your initial post. And yes, I specifically picked Brees because I know you're a Saints fan.

 

As for the stats, while Rodgers probably won't get that close to Brees in anything but passing TDs unless he plays until he's 45, Stafford could get close to what Brees did if he plays long enough and stays healthy (with the exception of TDs). But we can admit that statistics aren't the be all end all because in 2010, how many people who weren't Packers fans thought that Brett Favre was the best QB ever? He had the most completions, attempts, passing yards and passing TDs before Brees and Brady passed him in all 4 and Manning in yards and TDs.

 

That's great that Brees did what he did that first year. Still doesn't change the fact that he only made one Super Bowl because if we're going to discount Rodgers for that, it's only fair to discount Brees as well. But we can both admit that playoff success while important, isn't some be all end all either. Because nobody besides some uber homers in New York would even begin to consider arguing that Eli Manning is a better QB than Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers, among many others with 0 or 1 Super Bowl titles.

 

Of course it's ridiculous to put Brees and Stafford in the same breath. But it's also ridiculous to put Rodgers and Stafford in the same breath. Stafford is a very good QB. But he's not an all timer. Brees and Rodgers are.

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Carolina is on its 4th-string QB (Jacob Eason, in case you were curious), are shopping Christian McCaffrey and are booting guys off the team in the middle of the game...

 

 

So we're well on our way to Bryce Young.

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22 of the 32 teams (including 3 entire divisions) in the NFL are .500 or below.

 

SO MUCH BAD FOOTBALL

 

Alternatively, 20 of the 32 teams are .500 or better.

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22 of the 32 teams (including 3 entire divisions) in the NFL are .500 or below.

 

SO MUCH BAD FOOTBALL

 

Alternatively, 20 of the 32 teams are .500 or better.

 

Three of the eight divisions potentially being won with a 9-8 or 8-9 record is horrible

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22 of the 32 teams (including 3 entire divisions) in the NFL are .500 or below.

 

SO MUCH BAD FOOTBALL

 

Alternatively, 20 of the 32 teams are .500 or better.

 

Three of the eight divisions potentially being won with a 9-8 or 8-9 record is horrible

 

It’s also only been 6 games. Of course they’re all bunched up right now.

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