College Basketball 2021-2022 season

[UMFan83]

Here are my predictions:

 

Super on point with several of these but missed on the First Four games, though I agree with your seedings there more than the committee's.

 

San Diego St/Michigan as a 6/11 was a good call but that would have been a rematch of a regular season game which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed in the 1st round. Instead they got another MWC team.

[bukie]

I would argue that every Big East team got over seeded.

 

I think Wisconsin got a gift bracket, but if Davis isn't healthy it won't matter.

 

I'm ready for a potential Illinois-Arizona round 7.

[bukie]

Here are my predictions:

 

Super on point with several of these but missed on the First Four games, though I agree with your seedings there more than the committee's.

 

San Diego St/Michigan as a 6/11 was a good call but that would have been a rematch of a regular season game which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed in the 1st round. Instead they got another MWC team.

Missed on Oklahoma (like I figured) and A&M (who I took from way out of the bracket to well in the bracket, maybe too hasty), instead the committee went with Wyoming (who I had in until Richmond won) and Rutgers (who I continue not to understand and expect them to lose Tuesday).

[UMFan83]

Here are my predictions:

 

Super on point with several of these but missed on the First Four games, though I agree with your seedings there more than the committee's.

 

San Diego St/Michigan as a 6/11 was a good call but that would have been a rematch of a regular season game which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed in the 1st round. Instead they got another MWC team.

Missed on Oklahoma (like I figured) and A&M (who I took from way out of the bracket to well in the bracket, maybe too hasty), instead the committee went with Wyoming (who I had in until Richmond won) and Rutgers (who I continue not to understand and expect them to lose Tuesday).

 

Feels like the committee had no idea what to do with Rutgers' strange resume and figured the best place to put them was Dayton where they could prove their way in. Of course I thought the same thing would happen with Michigan's strange resume, though probably a little less strange as they limited their bad losses and their mediocre record is directly tied to the number 7 SOS in the country. they played 15 Q1 games vs. 3 Q4 games. You take 3 of those Q1 games and make them Q4 instead and Michigan's record is a lot more reasonable and their metrics don't suffer a ton, just a bit.

[Thurman Merman]

So does anyone know anything about Chattanooga?

[bukie]

So does anyone know anything about Chattanooga?

Illinois is 0-2 all time against Chattanooga, famously losing to them in 1997 when they were a 14 seed.

 

Which I'm sure means nothing to this Illini team, since none of them were alive when that happened.

 

Fans never forget, however.

 

Their biggest player is a 6-9 foul prone senior that is about 50 pounds lighter than Kofi. So, that should be fun.

[UMFan83]

So does anyone know anything about Chattanooga?

 

Nice little town in SE Tennessee

[bukie]

 

Super on point with several of these but missed on the First Four games, though I agree with your seedings there more than the committee's.

 

San Diego St/Michigan as a 6/11 was a good call but that would have been a rematch of a regular season game which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed in the 1st round. Instead they got another MWC team.

Missed on Oklahoma (like I figured) and A&M (who I took from way out of the bracket to well in the bracket, maybe too hasty), instead the committee went with Wyoming (who I had in until Richmond won) and Rutgers (who I continue not to understand and expect them to lose Tuesday).

 

Feels like the committee had no idea what to do with Rutgers' strange resume and figured the best place to put them was Dayton where they could prove their way in. Of course I thought the same thing would happen with Michigan's strange resume, though probably a little less strange as they limited their bad losses and their mediocre record is directly tied to the number 7 SOS in the country. they played 15 Q1 games vs. 3 Q4 games. You take 3 of those Q1 games and make them Q4 instead and Michigan's record is a lot more reasonable and their metrics don't suffer a ton, just a bit.

My sneaking suspicion was that Rutgers, Indiana AND Michigan were among the last 4 in, and to avoid a conference rematch in the first round, someone had to be move into that last 11 spot. So I'm guessing Michigan got the benefit and Notre Dame took the loss.

[NOLA]

So does anyone know anything about Chattanooga?

 

Nice little town in SE Tennessee

Yeah, it’s beautiful country there, and the town is sorta quaint. Some nice restaurants too.

 

Sorry, I just caught what you meant. Thought there might be first round games there.

[Old Style]

How does Houston have a NET of 3 with ZERO quad 1 wins? Their best win is against #44. A&M had three better wins in the last four days.

[bukie]

How does Houston have a NET of 3 with ZERO quad 1 wins? Their best win is against #44. A&M had three better wins in the last four days.

NET isn't put together on results, that would make it RPI. It's more of an efficiency metric, and Houston has rolled the schedule they've had.

[Old Style]

How does Houston have a NET of 3 with ZERO quad 1 wins? Their best win is against #44. A&M had three better wins in the last four days.

NET isn't put together on results, that would make it RPI. It's more of an efficiency metric, and Houston has rolled the schedule they've had.

So the message is play a shitty schedule and dominate?

[bukie]

How does Houston have a NET of 3 with ZERO quad 1 wins? Their best win is against #44. A&M had three better wins in the last four days.

NET isn't put together on results, that would make it RPI. It's more of an efficiency metric, and Houston has rolled the schedule they've had.

So the message is play a horsefeathers schedule and dominate?

No? Because the efficiency numbers are adjusted for schedule. Houston was just a lot better than A&M this season.

[gflore34]

I would argue that every Big East team got over seeded.

 

I think Wisconsin got a gift bracket, but if Davis isn't healthy it won't matter.

 

I'm ready for a potential Illinois-Arizona round 7.

 

Seth Davis crapping all over the Big Ten except for Wisconsin? Hugh? They, along with the Illini, are most likely to have early exits in my opinion. I'm really down on the Illini after that horsefeathers show on Friday, would not shock me one bit if they get their asses kicked. With Frazier and Plummer going 3-16 from 3 while Frazier inexplicably throws the ball away on several occasions.

[sneakypower]

it's not quite the seeding i'd hoped for before the season, but with Howard at the helm we'll have a puncher's chance

[NOLA]

it's not quite the seeding i'd hoped for before the season, but with Howard at the helm we'll have a puncher's chance

[Old Style]

NET isn't put together on results, that would make it RPI. It's more of an efficiency metric, and Houston has rolled the schedule they've had.

So the message is play a horsefeathers schedule and dominate?

No? Because the efficiency numbers are adjusted for schedule. Houston was just a lot better than A&M this season.

How can anyone say that when they beat NO ONE?

[Old Style]

And to be clear, I’m not saying A&M is a better team than Houston. I’m saying the NET makes no horsefeathering sense at all.

[NOLA]

And to be clear, I’m not saying A&M is a better team than Houston. I’m saying the NET makes no horsefeathering sense at all.

Arkansas went 3-0 vs LSU this season and has a much better record, yet is 5 NET spots behind them.

[bukie]

My biggest gripe with the bracket was Richmond knocking Dayton out of the chance to play a First Four game at home. How often do these chances come around? It's like a solar eclipse.

[bukie]

And to be clear, I’m not saying A&M is a better team than Houston. I’m saying the NET makes no horsefeathering sense at all.

Arkansas went 3-0 vs LSU this season and has a much better record, yet is 5 NET spots behind them.

It's not just wins and losses that go into NET, it's efficiency within those wins and losses, adjusted for schedule. They were effectively the same team overall, with LSU doing it against a tougher schedule and more efficiently (though it bore itself out much earlier in the season in general...basically after January 8 they were a below .500 team that had just 2 good wins, but the whole season counts). They were just fortunate not to free fall as hard as Iowa State, Xavier and Marquette.

[Old Style]

How is “efficiency” defined for NET though? Margin of victory? Dumb it down for a moron like me please.

[abuck1220]

iowa state had 9 Q1 wins and 0 Q3/4 losses, so i don’t get how they barely get in as an 11 seed. i would say this shows the committee cares about your NET ranking (isu’s was worse than you would guess looking at their resume), but rutgers getting in kind of blows that theory up. have to assume they considered isu looking like wet trash recently.

 

that being said, can’t get a much better 11 seed draw than a coach-less LSU, then maybe wisconsin. much, much better than ANY 7, 8, 9 or 10 draw.

[bukie]

Schedule for first four/first round:

 

 

Key times:

Indiana-Wyoming is the late game Tuesday

Rutgers-Notre Dame is the late game Wednesday

Colorado State-Michigan kicks off the tournament on Thursday

Richmond-Iowa at 3:10pm Eastern on Thursday

IU/WY winner plays St. Mary's at 7:20pm Thursday, less than 2 days after their first game

Loyola-Ohio State kicks off Friday's action at 12:15pm Eastern

Chattanooga-Illinois gets the primetime slot Friday at 6:50 pm Eastern

Colgate-Wisconsin and Davidson-Michigan State finish off the first round late Friday.

Yale-Purdue is the late early game Friday at 2pm Eastern

 

Looks like Illinois will get the A announcing team of Harlan-Bonner-Miller (probably because CBS found that pod to be the most potentially exciting). Nantz/Raftery team gets Duke, which is predictable.

[bukie]

iowa state had 9 Q1 wins and 0 Q3/4 losses, so i don’t get how they barely get in as an 11 seed. i would say this shows the committee cares about your NET ranking (isu’s was worse than you would guess looking at their resume), but rutgers getting in kind of blows that theory up. have to assume they considered isu looking like wet trash recently.

 

that being said, can’t get a much better 11 seed draw than a coach-less LSU, then maybe wisconsin. much, much better than ANY 7, 8, 9 or 10 draw.

Yeah, that midwest bracket might be the weakest bracket in recent memory. Kansas solid, sure, but not the best 1 seed. 2 seed Auburn struggled a ton to end the year and is probably overseeded (should be Tennessee), Wisconsin just lost at home to Nebraska and then to MSU, don't have Johnny Davis healthy, and apparently the committee stopped paying attention to them last Wednesday. Providence may be the most overseeded 4 seed in history, LSU hasn't looked like a tourney team since the first week of January, USC has two total wins against tourney teams, Creighton has a NET in the 50s, Miami has one good win, Iowa State, again , looked a lot better in January, Richmond isn't in the tournament without an auto-bid this week and is overseeded due to the timing of their championship game.

 

You could just call this bracket the "this looked a lot tougher in January" bracket.