Week 4: Bears vs Lions

[UMFan83]

[Hairyducked Idiot]

This is exactly the kind of stupid game Nagy Bears win on their way to a job-saving, meaningless win total.

[jersey cubs fan]

Apparently Nagy had a press conference with answering any questions.

 

[UMFan83]

Apparently Nagy had a press conference with answering any questions.

 

 

he also said Dalton and Fields are both practicing today and if Dalton is healthy he will start Sunday. I would love just 1 game of Fields under Lazor

[UMFan83]

Im sure some people are sick of reading about the debacle that was last week but the Ringer piles on about how mind boggling the gameplan was, particularly the emphasis on 5 man protections. They talk about how in the preseason they were using max protect on some of Fields best play, and even last week the drops by Mooney and ARob were both plays where he had extra protection and was able to get out of the pocket. Its so strange that the gameplan would shift dramatic against Fields' strengths, unless the conspiracy about Nagy sabotaging him is true (its not).

 

It also suggests that Nagy was trying to limit his decision making after the snap and running a bunch of short routes allowing him to pick out the best matchup before snapping the ball. Basically going against his strengths and treating him with kid gloves.

 

Here’s another snap with an empty backfield and four-down defensive linemen from the Browns. Fields wants Darnell Mooney, ostensibly the Bears’ second-best receiver, on a slant against a linebacker in Malcolm Smith. He could take either of the out-breaking routes to the bottom of the screen—and arguably should, given the advantage in pre-snap leverage—but he wants the mismatch, and when Mooney is gloved up by Smith, he has no choice but to try and deliver the ball: Once again, there’s pressure in his face.

 

That Fields likely picked the wrong side of the field to attack here is really important. When Nagy talks about Fields not being ready—when we talk about our blame pie, and how everyone has a piece—this is what Fields must focus on. If you’re going to win as a quick-game distributor, you have to pick the correct pre-snap matchup with remarkable success.

 

But Fields has never been an elite quick-game passer, and his traits don’t lend themselves to that type of quarterbacking. He’s got an elongated release; he likes to hold the football and extend plays. Nagy could say Fields is in the wrong on this play—and while he’d technically be correct, Nagy is also in the wrong for putting him in this situation. It is naive to believe that Fields could drastically alter his play speed and improve his decision-making process to fit this archetype of the empty-backfield, quick-game passer in a few short months of NFL tutelage in his first NFL start.

 

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2021/9/29/22699492/matt-nagy-bears-offense-justin-fields-first-start

[jersey cubs fan]

But we also saw a review of a max protect situation where nobody protected anything

[WrigleyField 22]

But we also saw a review of a max protect situation where nobody protected anything

I think it's plausible that last week's showing was doomed, but Nagy's treatment was still the most mind boggling. Like if it's just Peters or Mustipher getting beat, we can at least not act too shocked and acknowledge that, while crappy, it isn't head scratching.

[Brian707]

Any chance Eddie Goldman finally plays this week or ever again? Couldn't find any updates

[raw]

Any chance Eddie Goldman finally plays this week or ever again? Couldn't find any updates

 

Limited in practice again yesterday. He's day-to-day, just like Teven Jenkins.

[UMFan83]

Any chance Eddie Goldman finally plays this week or ever again? Couldn't find any updates

 

Limited in practice again yesterday. He's day-to-day, just like Teven Jenkins.

 

Nagy is probably saying the arrow is pointed up just like he has the last 4 weeks

[UMFan83]

I wonder how the national media is handling the fallout from Fields' first start. Oh dear god

 

[jumbo]

I wonder how the national media is handling the fallout from Fields' first start. Oh dear god

 

Orlovsky quickly became elite at overreaction. He is a star on ESPN because of it (just like all of their top talent)

[UMFan83]

I wonder how the national media is handling the fallout from Fields' first start. Oh dear god

 

Orlovsky quickly became elite at overreaction. He is a star on ESPN because of it (just like all of their top talent)

 

Oh I know, that's all those shows do is overreact with extreme takes. I just thought it was funny

[jumbo]

I wonder how the national media is handling the fallout from Fields' first start. Oh dear god

 

Orlovsky quickly became elite at overreaction. He is a star on ESPN because of it (just like all of their top talent)

 

Oh I know, that's all those shows do is overreact with extreme takes. I just thought it was funny

 

Yeah, and it's laughable that people say, "wow, did you see what Orlovsky said?" I'm mostly just amazed that he managed to scream more loudly than Stephen A and the rest of their crew.

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't actually watch that stuff, but being a crazy overreactiionary, but being a boring looking white guy wearing glasses sounds like a pretty brilliant marketing move. Well done.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I don't actually watch that stuff, but being a crazy overreactiionary, but being a boring looking white guy wearing glasses sounds like a pretty brilliant marketing move. Well done.

A future GOP senator.

[jumbo]

I don't actually watch that stuff, but being a crazy overreactiionary, but being a boring looking white guy wearing glasses sounds like a pretty brilliant marketing move. Well done.

A future GOP senator.

 

Give him a bow tie and he's Football Tucker Carlson <>

[minnesotacubsfan]

have they named QB starter for the Lions game?

[Old Style]

have they named QB starter for the Lions game?

Caleb Hanie

[Wilson A2000]

have they named QB starter for the Lions game?

 

Nagy said it’s a game-time decision

[UMFan83]

have they named QB starter for the Lions game?

 

Nagy said it’s a game-time decision

 

That's stupid. If there is any doubt that on Friday afternoon that Dalton can play he should just name Fields the starter at least privately. (and its possible he has and he's just being a galaxy brain about gamesmanship.)

[We Got The Whole 9]

Goldman removed from the injury report FWIW

[UMFan83]

Goldman removed from the injury report FWIW

 

ahh crap he must be dead then

[WrigleyField 22]

have they named QB starter for the Lions game?

 

Nagy said it’s a game-time decision

 

That's stupid. If there is any doubt that on Friday afternoon that Dalton can play he should just name Fields the starter at least privately. (and its possible he has and he's just being a galaxy brain about gamesmanship.)

Hey man, any little competitive advantage you can gain a against *checks notes* the Detroit Lions, you just gotta do.

[Brian707]

Fields has been getting a majority of the time withe the #1s in practice. With that being said, Foles will be the starter lol