2021 Bears season

[WrigleyField 22]

At least one spot is going to open up with an Jenkins IR. Thats gotta be a CB. And I imagine they'll be active on cuts from other teams. Maybe trying to work out some trades still?

 

The ILB and CB numbers are way crazier than 5 WR/5 TE. I literally don't even know who Caleb Johnson is lol.

[raw]

7 ILBs made the initial 53 man roster. LOL

4 CBs and 1 of them is Xavier Crawford. 8 DBs total

5 TEs

10 OL, and I hate like 7 of them

 

There's a move still to be made with Jenkins to IR. So, they can add someone. But there's also a move to be made when Mario Edwards comes back from suspension, so they have to lose someone Week 2 or 3 (can't remember how long the suspension was for).

 

Definitely seems like they kept the best 53 players. I guess they figured on the best special teamers out of the depth guys. The Bears have kept their draft picks almost by law under Pace, so cutting 2 at a couple of the least deep positions is a surprise, though neither Newsome or Graham are probably top 53 guys right now. The biggest surprise to me is Marqui Christian. I thought he had a real shot to start at nickel and has some position versatility at S and is a former above average special teams player. IDK what his contract situation is, but he may be a guy they bring back after week 1 to save some guaranteed money or something.

[PackLandVA]

"Justin Fields is a rookie, not a magic wand — especially not in this offense. Only in Chicago could one magnificent preseason pass by a quarterback in an otherwise pedestrian performance be a revelation and a defining moment that should change Nagy’s mind and force his hand.

 

Fields is ready for the NFL, but the Bears’ offense — as it currently stands — isn’t ready for him. Especially in the early going this season, Dalton is just as likely to win games that Fields wouldn’t as Fields is to win games that Dalton wouldn’t."

 

Link to Sun-Times Article

 

I thought this was a pretty good article. I get fans wanting to never see Dalton take a snap unless there's a couple seconds left in the 4th quarter. And I also get fans wanting to see Fields as soon as possible. From a fan perspective. But I really don't see the rush. As the article points out, he may be ready, but do you really know what you have as an offense/O-line? And how do fans even know how much of the offense and reading NFL defenses Josh even knows. I don't disagree with holding Fields out, at a minimum, for a few games, if not most of the season dpendent on what the coaches think of his development.

[WrigleyField 22]

Counterpoint: he's ready now and Nagy is only trying to prove his KC cred by sitting him like Mahomes did.

[mias_tisg]

I'm fine with sitting Fields to start the year but Andy Dalton was painfully mediocre with a Dallas team with way more weapons than the Bears have right now. I generally don't get how he's any better than Nick Foles. And yeah, I did watch Foles last year struggle with a bad O-Line and a tough schedule.

[UK]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

Oh sweet summer child

[UK]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

Oh sweet summer child

 

Don't ruin my dreams...

[BigbadB]

At least one spot is going to open up with an Jenkins IR. Thats gotta be a CB. And I imagine they'll be active on cuts from other teams. Maybe trying to work out some trades still?

 

The ILB and CB numbers are way crazier than 5 WR/5 TE. I literally don't even know who Caleb Johnson is lol.

 

Caleb Johnson had a great preseason, much like Rodney Adams, Tonga, Ogletree and Horsted. Seems like they rewarded the guys who appeared to go above and beyond.

 

I'm guessing that they think they can stash Newsome, Graham and a few others on the practice squad. Not sure why they felt the need to hang on to Christian Jones or Josh Woods. I get why they gave Horsted the 5th TE spot. And he may end up seeing more time on the field than Holtz gets, but they may want Holtz for short yardage/goal line formations as he's their main blocking TE, and doubles as a FB in those rare instances they line up with a FB. Shocked that there are only 4 CB's. I'm guessing they plan on plucking someone off the waiver wire. Josh Woods and Christian Jones might be the first waiver wire casualties.

[jersey cubs fan]

I can already see someone like jersey replying and saying the Bears last 35 years should not be looked as overachieving in any way.

I’m the guy that stated without a doubt the Bears are more or less the Cowboys the past 25 years but don’t get nearly enough credit for it. At least nowhere near the credit the Cowboys get for whatever reason they get a ton more praise.

 

 

I’ve got to work on my brand recognition if this is the thing people believe about me.

[David]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

 

nah. sorry, this is silly.

 

the dude is ready. you don't waste a cheap rookie contract year at the most important position in sports. if he's good, he covers up a lot of bad. and i'm pretty sure he's horsefeathering good.

Edited September 1, 2021 by David

[WrigleyField 22]

I can already see someone like jersey replying and saying the Bears last 35 years should not be looked as overachieving in any way.

I’m the guy that stated without a doubt the Bears are more or less the Cowboys the past 25 years but don’t get nearly enough credit for it. At least nowhere near the credit the Cowboys get for whatever reason they get a ton more praise.

 

 

I’ve got to work on my brand recognition if this is the thing people believe about me.

*nearly enough credit* just means the Cowboys have gotten too much credit right?

 

Stylistically very different though. The 2 Cowboys QBs in the 21st century would be both in top 3 of Bears QBs all time.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

 

nah. this is dumb.

 

the dude is ready. you don't waste a cheap year at the most important position in sports. if he's good, he covers up a lot of bad. and i'm pretty sure he's horsefeathering good.

nah

Sitting him is fine

[David]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

 

nah. this is dumb.

 

the dude is ready. you don't waste a cheap year at the most important position in sports. if he's good, he covers up a lot of bad. and i'm pretty sure he's horsefeathering good.

nah

Sitting him is fine

 

 

you're wrong. like, not even within the vicinity of not wrong. and i know you think you know everything.

 

sitting justin fields for a whole year is malpractice.

Edited September 1, 2021 by David

[jersey cubs fan]

I can already see someone like jersey replying and saying the Bears last 35 years should not be looked as overachieving in any way.

I’m the guy that stated without a doubt the Bears are more or less the Cowboys the past 25 years but don’t get nearly enough credit for it. At least nowhere near the credit the Cowboys get for whatever reason they get a ton more praise.

 

 

I’ve got to work on my brand recognition if this is the thing people believe about me.

*nearly enough credit* just means the Cowboys have gotten too much credit right?

 

Stylistically very different though. The 2 Cowboys QBs in the 21st century would be both in top 3 of Bears QBs all time.

substance

Bears have done as well as Dallas but for some reason people pretend dallas has been a quality program this whole time and the bears a joke. The Lovie era is grossly undervalued. Who gives a horsefeathers about style points when it’s no better at the end of the day?

[jersey cubs fan]

 

nah. this is dumb.

 

the dude is ready. you don't waste a cheap year at the most important position in sports. if he's good, he covers up a lot of bad. and i'm pretty sure he's horsefeathering good.

nah

Sitting him is fine

 

 

you're wrong. like, not even within the vicinity of not wrong. and i know you think you know everything.

 

sitting justin fields for a whole year is malpractice.

Didn’t see the entire year thing, that’s not happening. Only way it does is if Dalton wins 12. Which also is not happening.

 

Anyway, pace and Nagy signed secret extensions and won’t be pressured into starting fields before week 4.

[UMFan83]

I’m the guy that stated without a doubt the Bears are more or less the Cowboys the past 25 years but don’t get nearly enough credit for it. At least nowhere near the credit the Cowboys get for whatever reason they get a ton more praise.

 

 

I’ve got to work on my brand recognition if this is the thing people believe about me.

*nearly enough credit* just means the Cowboys have gotten too much credit right?

 

Stylistically very different though. The 2 Cowboys QBs in the 21st century would be both in top 3 of Bears QBs all time.

substance

Bears have done as well as Dallas but for some reason people pretend dallas has been a quality program this whole time and the bears a joke. The Lovie era is grossly undervalued. Who gives a horsefeathers about style points when it’s no better at the end of the day?

 

The Lovie era would look so different if the Bears won their last game of 2008 against a crappy Texans team, if Cutler didn’t break his thumb when the Bears were 7-3 in 2011 and if they weren’t one of the 5% of 10-6 teams that don’t make the playoffs. Shoulda woulda coulda but that was an 8 year run where they were a legit playoff caliber team in 6 of the seasons. Heck throw in Trestmans first season with Lovie’s remnants when they were a bad all out blitz playcall from the playoffs. Sure many of these would be borderline playoff teams but it changes the perception of the tenure greatly.

[UMFan83]

nah

Sitting him is fine

 

 

you're wrong. like, not even within the vicinity of not wrong. and i know you think you know everything.

 

sitting justin fields for a whole year is malpractice.

Didn’t see the entire year thing, that’s not happening. Only way it does is if Dalton wins 12. Which also is not happening.

 

Anyway, pace and Nagy signed secret extensions and won’t be pressured into starting fields before week 4.

 

Not sure about the secret extensions thing though it wouldn’t surprise me but I also think that at the very least Dalton is going to get 3 games. Nagy isn’t going to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong after 1 or even 2 weeks. I think it will be like Mike Glennon, who had to be a complete embarrassing disaster over 4 games for Fox to pull the plug on him.

 

1 bad game - “we’re not going to make rash decisions based on one game. 2 bad games - “we saw some things we really liked from Andy today and believe we’re headed in the right direction. 3 bad games - “we’re going to go back and watch some tape and make the best decision for this football team”. Week 4 - Justin Fields starts

[minnesotacubsfan]

I can already see someone like jersey replying and saying the Bears last 35 years should not be looked as overachieving in any way.

I’m the guy that stated without a doubt the Bears are more or less the Cowboys the past 25 years but don’t get nearly enough credit for it. At least nowhere near the credit the Cowboys get for whatever reason they get a ton more praise.

 

 

I’ve got to work on my brand recognition if this is the thing people believe about me.

You weren't alone, I think I introduced the idea as well. If not, I def agreed with if it

Edited September 1, 2021 by minnesotacubsfan

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

 

you're wrong. like, not even within the vicinity of not wrong. and i know you think you know everything.

 

sitting justin fields for a whole year is malpractice.

Didn’t see the entire year thing, that’s not happening. Only way it does is if Dalton wins 12. Which also is not happening.

 

Anyway, pace and Nagy signed secret extensions and won’t be pressured into starting fields before week 4.

 

Not sure about the secret extensions thing though it wouldn’t surprise me but I also think that at the very least Dalton is going to get 3 games. Nagy isn’t going to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong after 1 or even 2 weeks. I think it will be like Mike Glennon, who had to be a complete embarrassing disaster over 4 games for Fox to pull the plug on him.

 

1 bad game - “we’re not going to make rash decisions based on one game. 2 bad games - “we saw some things we really liked from Andy today and believe we’re headed in the right direction. 3 bad games - “we’re going to go back and watch some tape and make the best decision for this football team”. Week 4 - Justin Fields starts

Game 1) line holds together "we did some good things"

 

Game 2) line improves "we like our direction

 

Game 3) line not shaky "Justin fields is our qb

 

 

Vs

 

Game 1) line is horsefeathers "Andy Dalton is in surgery and Nick Foles is our qb"

 

 

Let's hope for the former

[UK]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

 

nah. sorry, this is silly.

 

the dude is ready. you don't waste a cheap rookie contract year at the most important position in sports. if he's good, he covers up a lot of bad. and i'm pretty sure he's horsefeathering good.

 

It would be wasting a season if they are a contender.or they didn't have 16 or so mil locked up with Dalton and Foles as far as utilizing Fields like Seattle did. However, the line is trash and the Bears aren't going to win regardless of how he plays.

[David]

I'm fine with them sitting Fields for the entire season so he doesn't get hurt or develops bad habits with this crap line. Keeping Dalton out there assumes a 6-11 season and hopefully firing Pace & Nagy.

 

Please find the AK of the NFL world...

 

nah. sorry, this is silly.

 

the dude is ready. you don't waste a cheap rookie contract year at the most important position in sports. if he's good, he covers up a lot of bad. and i'm pretty sure he's horsefeathering good.

 

It would be wasting a season if they are a contender.or they didn't have 16 or so mil locked up with Dalton and Foles as far as utilizing Fields like Seattle did. However, the line is trash and the Bears aren't going to win regardless of how he plays.

 

at the very best, you're wasting an entire year of development time. kinks he could easily get sorted out this year will have to wait until next. sitting and watching isn't helping him, and by all accounts he was one of the 1-2 most NFL ready QBs in this draft and ran a similar style of offense in college - so his understanding of the offensive concepts shouldn't be in question like it might be for others who truly could benefit by watching.

 

you're also probably overstating just how bad the line is. it's not good, but the interior is solid. it could easily be just fine bad rather than disastrously bad. and fields's mobility would make it look better because of how much of a threat his speed is and how defenses would have to adjust to counter it instead of just pinning their ears back and going after the big old slow guy.

Edited September 1, 2021 by David

[David]

*nearly enough credit* just means the Cowboys have gotten too much credit right?

 

Stylistically very different though. The 2 Cowboys QBs in the 21st century would be both in top 3 of Bears QBs all time.

substance

Bears have done as well as Dallas but for some reason people pretend dallas has been a quality program this whole time and the bears a joke. The Lovie era is grossly undervalued. Who gives a horsefeathers about style points when it’s no better at the end of the day?

 

The Lovie era would look so different if the Bears won their last game of 2008 against a crappy Texans team, if Cutler didn’t break his thumb when the Bears were 7-3 in 2011 and if they weren’t one of the 5% of 10-6 teams that don’t make the playoffs. Shoulda woulda coulda but that was an 8 year run where they were a legit playoff caliber team in 6 of the seasons. Heck throw in Trestmans first season with Lovie’s remnants when they were a bad all out blitz playcall from the playoffs. Sure many of these would be borderline playoff teams but it changes the perception of the tenure greatly.

 

people don't look back at the 2011-12 seasons fondly enough because of that stuff. those were very good teams.

[David]

nah

Sitting him is fine

 

 

you're wrong. like, not even within the vicinity of not wrong. and i know you think you know everything.

 

sitting justin fields for a whole year is malpractice.

Didn’t see the entire year thing, that’s not happening. Only way it does is if Dalton wins 12. Which also is not happening.

 

Anyway, pace and Nagy signed secret extensions and won’t be pressured into starting fields before week 4.

 

right - agreed. and sorry, re-reading that i sound like an horsefeathers when i was just trying to be a smart ass.

[jersey cubs fan]

 

 

you're wrong. like, not even within the vicinity of not wrong. and i know you think you know everything.

 

sitting justin fields for a whole year is malpractice.

Didn’t see the entire year thing, that’s not happening. Only way it does is if Dalton wins 12. Which also is not happening.

 

Anyway, pace and Nagy signed secret extensions and won’t be pressured into starting fields before week 4.

 

Not sure about the secret extensions thing though it wouldn’t surprise me but I also think that at the very least Dalton is going to get 3 games. Nagy isn’t going to swallow his pride and admit he was wrong after 1 or even 2 weeks. I think it will be like Mike Glennon, who had to be a complete embarrassing disaster over 4 games for Fox to pull the plug on him.

 

1 bad game - “we’re not going to make rash decisions based on one game. 2 bad games - “we saw some things we really liked from Andy today and believe we’re headed in the right direction. 3 bad games - “we’re going to go back and watch some tape and make the best decision for this football team”. Week 4 - Justin Fields starts

I really don’t think it’s a swallow your pride thing. There are legit reasons to not start the kid right away. It’s fine. It’s not an egotistical coach making it all about his system. It’s not like Fields is some toy ownership thrusted on an unsuspecting coach who is choosing to sabotage the year to play his guy.