Week 13: Detroit Lions @ Chicago BEARS

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Exactly what they deserved

[Bertz]

That run on 4th and 1 was soooooo dumb. If I cared about this game I'd actively be shooting my forehead with heroin right now

[minnesotacubsfan]

Robinson is underrated you guys. Even tho he kind of sucks at big moments, totally underrated

[Soul]

Terrible coaching. Lol. How do you call a run with 11 seconds left?

 

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Andy Reid would be proud of his acolyte, I’m sure.

 

OK can we finally stick a fork in this please?

[mias_tisg]

Good loss

[Soul]

Even the defense was putrid. 4 legit Lions TD drives and nary a hint of a spine to hold DET to a FG at the end.

[raw]

Pat Fitzgerald will fix this all.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Pat Fitzgerald will fix this all.

 

horsefeathers that horsefeathers

[Cubfanintheknow]

Burn it down. Burn it all down.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Okay, now even I believe the Bears will clean house. Hopefully to include Philips.

[UK]

This is for the best in so many ways.

[jersey cubs fan]

I’ve been a “let Nagy and Pace find their next QB” apologist for too long

 

[gflore34]

In the long run this probably seals Nagy' fate and hopefully, Pace'',Trubisky' gone regardless. But, consider this : the Bears, the Bears were talking, have to hit on a GM who, in turn, has to hit on a HC. Given they've been unable to lately hit on a GM, what evidence is there that this ownership is going to be able to find the right GM the next time around? I wonder if, ultimately, a change in ownership is required for success.

[jersey cubs fan]

In the long run this probably seals Nagy' fate and hopefully, Pace'',Trubisky' gone regardless. But, consider this : the Bears, the Bears were talking, have to hit on a GM who, in turn, has to hit on a HC. Given they've been unable to lately hit on a GM, what evidence is there that this ownership is going to be able to find the right GM the next time around? I wonder if, ultimately, a change in ownership is required for success.

A change in ownership is not a thing the public can lobby got or something we can expect. There are plenty of more hands on owners with as bad or worse results.

 

Calling for an ownership change is pointless and unnecessary. There is no reason why these people can’t hire better football people on their own. They’ve done better and they’ve done worse. They can do better.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't necessarily regret the Pace hire. It just didn't work out and now you try again.

[Soul]

I’m still concerned they’ll keep everything in place for another year.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I’m still concerned they’ll keep everything in place for another year.

 

 

considering Pat Fitzgerald is being talked about as a replacement I'm not sure that the status quo wouldn't be better

[gflore34]

In the long run this probably seals Nagy' fate and hopefully, Pace'',Trubisky' gone regardless. But, consider this : the Bears, the Bears were talking, have to hit on a GM who, in turn, has to hit on a HC. Given they've been unable to lately hit on a GM, what evidence is there that this ownership is going to be able to find the right GM the next time around? I wonder if, ultimately, a change in ownership is required for success.

A change in ownership is not a thing the public can lobby got or something we can expect. There are plenty of more hands on owners with as bad or worse results.

 

Calling for an ownership change is pointless and unnecessary. There is no reason why these people can’t hire better football people on their own. They’ve done better and they’ve done worse. They can do better.

 

There is some reason they haven't done well and of course, they can do better. Are they capable of doing better?

[raw]

I don't necessarily regret the Pace hire. It just didn't work out and now you try again.

 

Yeah, Pace was exactly the type of hire you want. Young, from a winning organization, former scout, worked his way up. His draft record is above average. His FA signings have mostly been above average. He was able to get comp picks for the first time in 10 years. Ultimately, he got 1 (maybe 2) decisions wrong. He got the QB wrong, which is the death knell for any GM. And depending on who you fault for this whole thing, he got the coach wrong.....though it's arguable if he got the QB right, the coach would be fine. I guess if the coach hire was right, maybe they develop Trubisky.

[minnesotacubsfan]

In the long run this probably seals Nagy' fate and hopefully, Pace'',Trubisky' gone regardless. But, consider this : the Bears, the Bears were talking, have to hit on a GM who, in turn, has to hit on a HC. Given they've been unable to lately hit on a GM, what evidence is there that this ownership is going to be able to find the right GM the next time around? I wonder if, ultimately, a change in ownership is required for success.

A change in ownership is not a thing the public can lobby got or something we can expect. There are plenty of more hands on owners with as bad or worse results.

 

Calling for an ownership change is pointless and unnecessary. There is no reason why these people can’t hire better football people on their own. They’ve done better and they’ve done worse. They can do better.

 

There is some reason they haven't done well and of course, they can do better. Are they capable of doing better?

 

yes, they can.

 

Angelo was good, Emry was a dumb hire, Pace was a good hire at the time. He was the up and coming GM protege

[Soul]

You know what they say. If you fail, try again and again until there’s no doubt you can’t succeed.

[UMFan83]

I really hope this loss demoralized them. If they lose out they were probably have a pick no worse than like 7th or as high as 3rd. Most mock drafts I see have Lawrence, Fields, Lance and Lane all gone in the top 8. We cannot afford another win this year, which sucks because Jacksonville and Houston are still on the schedule. Shouldnt have an issue losing to Minnesota and Green Bay.

 

If the season ended now wed be 13th I think. That’s not going to work, especially with at least 5 of those teams needing a QB, and you could probably stretch it to 7 teams if Atlanta and Detroit are ready to move on from Ryan and Stafford

[gflore34]

I don't necessarily regret the Pace hire. It just didn't work out and now you try again.

 

Yeah, Pace was exactly the type of hire you want. Young, from a winning organization, former scout, worked his way up. His draft record is above average. His FA signings have mostly been above average. He was able to get comp picks for the first time in 10 years. Ultimately, he got 1 (maybe 2) decisions wrong. He got the QB wrong, which is the death knell for any GM. And depending on who you fault for this whole thing, he got the coach wrong.....though it's arguable if he got the QB right, the coach would be fine. I guess if the coach hire was right, maybe they develop Trubisky.

 

 

Just don't think Trubisky has the aptitude for the required football knowledge, nor will he ever. I don't know how Nagy could have developed what Mitch' not capable of doing. That's not absolve Nagy of blame, he's clearly terrible and should be history on Black Monday.

[gflore34]

I really hope this loss demoralized them. If they lose out they were probably have a pick no worse than like 7th or as high as 3rd. Most mock drafts I see have Lawrence, Fields, Lance and Lane all gone in the top 8. We cannot afford another win this year, which sucks because Jacksonville and Houston are still on the schedule. Shouldnt have an issue losing to Minnesota and Green Bay.

 

If the season ended now wed be 13th I think. That’s not going to work, especially with at least 5 of those teams needing a QB, and you could probably stretch it to 7 teams if Atlanta and Detroit are ready to move on from Ryan and Stafford

 

 

They're quite capable of losing out, looked how badly they fucked this easily winnable game on both sides of the ball.

 

Just curious, can someone tell me why they chose to set back on D when the Lions had the ball around the 6 minute mark? I know it was a long field but, doesn't a sack or two effectively end the game? Why not go after Stafford?

[raw]

Because I can never have nice things......IU football is 6-1 and a top 10 team this year, but them and the Bears have not won on the same weekend this year.