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Top 25 games

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Boston College at (1) Clemson (12 pm, ABC)

Mississippi State at (2) Alabama (7 pm, ESPN)

(3) Ohio State at (18) Penn State (7:30 pm, ABC)

(4) Notre Dame at Georgia Tech (3:30 pm, ABC)

(5) Georgia at Kentucky (12 pm, SEC Network)

Texas at (6) Oklahoma State (4 pm, FOX)

Memphis at (7) Cincinnati (12 pm, ESPN)

Arkansas at (8) Texas A&M (7 pm, SEC Network)

Missouri at (10) Florida (7:30 pm, SEC Network - Alternate)

Western Kentucky at (11) BYU (10:15 pm, ESPN)

Michigan State at (13) Michigan (12 pm, FOX)

(15) North Carolina at Virginia (8 pm, ACC Network)

(16) Kansas State at West Virginia (12 pm, ESPN2)

(17) Indiana at Rutgers (3:30 pm, BTN)

(20) Coastal Carolina at Georgia State (12 pm, ESPNU)

Navy at (22) SMU (7:30 pm, ESPN2)

(23) Iowa State at Kansas (12 pm, FS1)

(24) Oklahoma at Texas Tech (8 pm, FOX)

(25) Boise State at Air Force (6 pm, CBSSN)

 

Other nationally available games

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South Alabama at Georgia Southern (7:30 pm Thursday, ESPN)

Colorado State at Fresno State (10 pm Thursday, CBSSN)

 

Minnesota at Maryland (7:30 pm Friday, ESPN)

East Carolina at Tulsa (9 pm Friday, ESPN2)

Hawaii at Wyoming (9:45 pm Friday, FS1)

 

Purdue at Illinois (12 pm, BTN)

Wake Forest at Syracuse (12 pm, ACC Network)

UTSA at Florida Atlantic (12 pm, FSN)

Troy at Arkansas State (3 pm, ESPN3)

Rice at Southern Miss (3 pm, ESPN3)

LSU at Auburn (3:30 pm, CBS)

Northwestern at Iowa (3:30 pm, ESPN)

TCU at Baylor (3:30 pm, ESPN2)

UAB at Louisiana Tech (3:30 pm, FSN)

Appalachian State at UL Monroe (4 pm, ESPNU)

Ole Miss at Vanderbilt (4 pm, SEC Network)

Virginia Tech at Louisville (4 pm, ACC Network)

New Mexico at San Jose State (7 pm, FS1)

Charlotte at Duke (7 pm, FSN)

UL Lafayette at Texas State (8 pm, ESPNU)

San Diego State at Utah State (9:30 pm, CBSSN)

Nevada at UNLV (10:30 pm, FS1)

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Hate seeing a pretty girl struck down in her prime like this

Theoretically this should take Lawrence out of play for the ND game next Saturday, but Clemson hasn't officially ruled him out yet.

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Ok I may finally be there with Harbaugh. Unlike many UM fans I’d be somewhat ok with 9-4’s many years if there was an occasional 11-1 mixed in there. His inability to beat Ohio State has prevented that from happening in the years Michigan had that caliber team. The one thing Harbaugh had going for him was almost never losing games he should win. This was a game they should have won, transition year or not. Have no idea why those catches on the final MSU drive were not challenged. One of them would have taken the defense off the field down 3. Instead they drove for a TD. Unacceptable.

 

I still really like the potential Milton shows even if it’s clearly not all the way there, but the defense couldn’t pressure the QB and the secondary, specifically one guy got picked apart for virtually every consequential MSU offensive play.

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After everthing going so wrong last week against Rutgers, Sparty played a real simple game and really kind of dominated. IMHO.

 

B1G is a mess

 

Little bit or normalcy next week when Michigan visits higher ranked Indiana.

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Nevermind I’m going back to undecided on Harbaugh. I think it boils down to this:

 

Outside of the 10 year war, the Michigan program has never consistently played at the level the fans demand of their program. In 5 seasons Harbaugh was 1 inch short of likely going to the CFP and another year where they were an OSU win away (though got blown out). He is not at the uberest elite level but he’s also consistently a solid team.

 

I’m kind of ok with keeping Harbaugh and accepting that maybe 20% of the time he’ll have a contending caliber team, but the rest of the time he’s going to be in that 9-4 range.*

 

But I’m also ok with risking stability and trying to find that coach that can take Michigan to the next level. tbh, you are probably not going to find that person, but if the goal is to build an annual contender then go this route. But be warned - we may end up in RichRod/Hoke territory also.

 

* this is pending him finding a way to start winning rivalry games. Not asking him to even go .500 against Ohio State, 30-40% of the time sounds shitty but based on how much better Ohio State is as a program right now, it’s a minimal level of competency in a rivalry.

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Nevermind I’m going back to undecided on Harbaugh. I think it boils down to this:

 

Outside of the 10 year war, the Michigan program has never consistently played at the level the fans demand of their program. In 5 seasons Harbaugh was 1 inch short of likely going to the CFP and another year where they were an OSU win away (though got blown out). He is not at the uberest elite level but he’s also consistently a solid team.

 

I’m kind of ok with keeping Harbaugh and accepting that maybe 20% of the time he’ll have a contending caliber team, but the rest of the time he’s going to be in that 9-4 range.*

 

But I’m also ok with risking stability and trying to find that coach that can take Michigan to the next level. tbh, you are probably not going to find that person, but if the goal is to build an annual contender then go this route. But be warned - we may end up in RichRod/Hoke territory also.

 

* this is pending him finding a way to start winning rivalry games. Not asking him to even go .500 against Ohio State, 30-40% of the time sounds horsefeathers but based on how much better Ohio State is as a program right now, it’s a minimal level of competency in a rivalry.

 

I think Harbaugh is as good as you are going to get unless UM could land Urban somehow (imagine the troll value there).

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I thought it was telling when all the OSU players who opted out came back, but Michigans still stayed away. I dont think OSU out recruits Michigan by much, but their players develop better and are more committed.
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Nevermind I’m going back to undecided on Harbaugh. I think it boils down to this:

 

Outside of the 10 year war, the Michigan program has never consistently played at the level the fans demand of their program. In 5 seasons Harbaugh was 1 inch short of likely going to the CFP and another year where they were an OSU win away (though got blown out). He is not at the uberest elite level but he’s also consistently a solid team.

 

I’m kind of ok with keeping Harbaugh and accepting that maybe 20% of the time he’ll have a contending caliber team, but the rest of the time he’s going to be in that 9-4 range.*

 

But I’m also ok with risking stability and trying to find that coach that can take Michigan to the next level. tbh, you are probably not going to find that person, but if the goal is to build an annual contender then go this route. But be warned - we may end up in RichRod/Hoke territory also.

 

* this is pending him finding a way to start winning rivalry games. Not asking him to even go .500 against Ohio State, 30-40% of the time sounds horsefeathers but based on how much better Ohio State is as a program right now, it’s a minimal level of competency in a rivalry.

 

I think Harbaugh is as good as you are going to get unless UM could land Urban somehow (imagine the troll value there).

 

The dream would be someone like Saban or Debo thinking that UMs recent ineptitude against OSU is a challenge worth trying to overcome and making a legacy move.

 

But highly unlikely they would ever willingly go to coach at a school with high admission standards and a considerably worse talent pool to recruit from

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I thought it was telling when all the OSU players who opted out came back, but Michigans still stayed away. I dont think OSU out recruits Michigan by much, but their players develop better and are more committed.

 

OSU players likely came back to win a championship in a short season. But your point stands.

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Yeah who’s to say what Saban or Dabo’s legacies will be at this point. Better seal it up at Michigan

lol

Anyone can build powerhouse programs who win multiple National Championships. But if you really want to cement your legacy you need to build a Michigan team who can beat Ohio State.

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Yeah who’s to say what Saban or Dabo’s legacies will be at this point. Better seal it up at Michigan

lol

Anyone can build powerhouse programs who win multiple National Championships. But if you really want to cement your legacy you need to build a Michigan team who can beat Ohio State.

 

Exactly, it’s the white whale of coaching

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Yeah who’s to say what Saban or Dabo’s legacies will be at this point. Better seal it up at Michigan

lol

Anyone can build powerhouse programs who win multiple National Championships. But if you really want to cement your legacy you need to build a Michigan team who can beat Ohio State.

 

Exactly, it’s the white whale of coaching

 

Pfft... if you really want to cement your legacy, go somewhere like Wake Forest or Indiana and win a national championship.

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