8/2 Pirates (Brault) at Cubs (Lester) 1:20 CT Marquee

[itisallpartoftheplan]

The runner trying to get to 3rd on the groundout seems like a product of knowing the Cubs have a runner on second to start their half, it raises the pressure to score.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Ok Javy has to get the runner in now.

[soccer10k]

Javy!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

:flythew: Cubs Win! Cubs Win! Cubs Win! :flythew:

\:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

[Hairyducked Idiot]

hooray

[Jaxbro]

Yay

[PackLandVA]

I'll say it first: Nice job by the pen to secure the walk off.

 

\:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/

[Cubswin11]

:flythew:

 

#WeAreGood

[itisallpartoftheplan]

Reverse jinxed the Bullpen all day and it worked!! Was waiting for that Javy liner to get caught somehow.

[Omar]

Edited August 2, 2020 by Omar

[Cubswin11]

Now go win 3 of 4 vs the Royals and likely have a nice weekend off to relax next weekend because the Cardinals don’t know how to act like responsible adults

[David]

Now that I've watched a handful of games with the DH, I don't miss the pitcher hitting at all

 

Yep. I guess I was an old school meathead about the DH but I definitely haven’t missed seeing pitchers cluelessly flail at a baseball.

 

it amazes me that you guys had to see the DH to realize it's better

 

COME ON

[Derwood]

Now that I've watched a handful of games with the DH, I don't miss the pitcher hitting at all

 

Yep. I guess I was an old school meathead about the DH but I definitely haven’t missed seeing pitchers cluelessly flail at a baseball.

 

it amazes me that you guys had to see the DH to realize it's better

 

COME ON

 

Of course it's better, I just thought it was going to be jarring seeing it with the Cubs every day. It isn't, and it's better

[17 Seconds]

lester's contract was so damn good

[Cubswin11]

lester's contract was so damn good

It has to be a top 5 (maybe 3), 9 figure contract for a SP of all time.

Edited August 3, 2020 by Cubswin11

[Tim]

:flythew: :flythew: :flythew:

[Brian707]

Now go win 3 of 4 vs the Royals and likely have a nice weekend off to relax next weekend because the Cardinals don’t know how to act like responsible adults

 

They will spend all weekend in that shitty town eating fried ravioli and shitty provel pizza and play no baseball. Can they recover for the final 3/4th of the season?

[UMFan83]

lester's contract was so damn good

 

How many IP does he have to have this year to trigger the option year? I remember reading that prorated it would be difficult to do but possible.

 

I’d hate that this deformed excuse for a season was his last as a Cub, but I believe the option year is like $5m more than his salary this year

[Sammy Sofa]

Now go win 3 of 4 vs the Royals and likely have a nice weekend off to relax next weekend because the Cardinals don’t know how to act like responsible adults

 

They will spend all weekend in that horsefeathers town eating fried ravioli and horsefeathers provel pizza and play no baseball. Can they recover for the final 3/4th of the season?

 

Bryant's horsefeathers is going to turn inside out if that happens.

[Cubswin11]

lester's contract was so damn good

 

How many IP does he have to have this year to trigger the option year? I remember reading that prorated it would be difficult to do but possible.

 

I’d hate that this deformed excuse for a season was his last as a Cub, but I believe the option year is like $5m more than his salary this year

$15 mil difference on the option. $25 mil option, $10 mil buyout. He needed to reach 200 IP for the option to vest which translates to about 75 innings prorated for the year. He has 10 starts left so needs to average over 6 innings a start, 11 innings in 2 starts so far. Not impossible but probably not happening. He’ll have a stinker and go 3-4 or they’ll go 6-man rotation at some point to give guys a breather or something I’d imagine.

[soccer10k]

lester's contract was so damn good

It has to be a top 5 (maybe 3), 9 figure contract for a SP of all time.

 

Finally had time to put this together.

 

Full list of $100M+ contracts for pitchers per Cots. This isn't just free agent deals though, if that's what you meant (Verlander, for example, had two years left on his deal before his extension in 2013). So if you meant FA deals, I didn't sort for that. This is also WAR over the length of the contract, not just with the team that signed the player to the contract. It also doesn't factor in if a player opted out, like Sabathia did during his first deal.

 

So true FA deals for guys who stuck around, Scherzer and Sabathia were definitely better. Greinke's Dodger deal would have been had he not opted out. Lee's was better because of how much value he provided in only four years. The rest either were worse or were extensions.

 

Pitcher                  Years		Dollars		bWAR		fWAR
David Price              16-22		$217M		  10.4		10.6
Clayton Kershaw          14-20		$217M		  32.5		34.1
Max Scherzer             15-20		$210M		  34.9		32.9
Zack Greinke             16-21		$207M		  17.0		15.7
Justin Verlander         13-19		$180M		  35.7		33.6
Felix Hernandez          13-19		$175M		  16.4		15.9
Stephen Strasburg        17-23		$175M		  15.2		14.0
CC Sabathia              09-15		$161M		  21.3		24.5
Masahiro Tanaka          14-20		$155M		  16.9		18.2
Jon Lester               15-20		$155M		  13.8		17.0
Zack Greinke             13-18		$147M		  29.5		23.2
Cole Hamels              13-18		$144M		  26.3		20.9
Johan Santana            08-13		$138M		  15.3		13.9
Johnny Cueto             16-21		$130M		   8.7		 6.3
Matt Cain                12-17		$128M		   2.7		 3.9
Barry Zito               07-13		$126M		   2.4		 6.5
CC Sabathia              12-16		$122M		   7.0		10.0
Mike Hampton             01-08		$121M		   2.9		 8.8
Cliff Lee                11-15		$120M		  20.2		19.7
Jordan Zimmerman         16-20		$110M		   1.2		 4.8
Kevin Brown              99-05		$105M		  22.8		27.4
Homer Bailey             14-19		$105M		   0.4		 5.7

 

Contract not long enough: Cole (20-28), Strasburg (20-26), Sale (20-24), Corbin (19-24), deGrom (19-23), Darvish (18-23), Wheeler (20-24)

[ConstableRabbit]

lester's contract was so damn good

It has to be a top 5 (maybe 3), 9 figure contract for a SP of all time.

 

Finally had time to put this together.

 

Full list of $100M+ contracts for pitchers per Cots. This isn't just free agent deals though, if that's what you meant (Verlander, for example, had two years left on his deal before his extension in 2013). So if you meant FA deals, I didn't sort for that. This is also WAR over the length of the contract, not just with the team that signed the player to the contract. It also doesn't factor in if a player opted out, like Sabathia did during his first deal.

 

So true FA deals for guys who stuck around, Scherzer and Sabathia were definitely better. Greinke's Dodger deal would have been had he not opted out. Lee's was better because of how much value he provided in only four years. The rest either were worse or were extensions.

 

Pitcher                  Years		Dollars		bWAR		fWAR
David Price              16-22		$217M		  10.4		10.6
Clayton Kershaw          14-20		$217M		  32.5		34.1
Max Scherzer             15-20		$210M		  34.9		32.9
Zack Greinke             16-21		$207M		  17.0		15.7
Justin Verlander         13-19		$180M		  35.7		33.6
Felix Hernandez          13-19		$175M		  16.4		15.9
Stephen Strasburg        17-23		$175M		  15.2		14.0
CC Sabathia              09-15		$161M		  21.3		24.5
Masahiro Tanaka          14-20		$155M		  16.9		18.2
Jon Lester               15-20		$155M		  13.8		17.0
Zack Greinke             13-18		$147M		  29.5		23.2
Cole Hamels              13-18		$144M		  26.3		20.9
Johan Santana            08-13		$138M		  15.3		13.9
Johnny Cueto             16-21		$130M		   8.7		 6.3
Matt Cain                12-17		$128M		   2.7		 3.9
Barry Zito               07-13		$126M		   2.4		 6.5
CC Sabathia              12-16		$122M		   7.0		10.0
Mike Hampton             01-08		$121M		   2.9		 8.8
Cliff Lee                11-15		$120M		  20.2		19.7
Jordan Zimmerman         16-20		$110M		   1.2		 4.8
Kevin Brown              99-05		$105M		  22.8		27.4
Homer Bailey             14-19		$105M		   0.4		 5.7

 

Contract not long enough: Cole (20-28), Strasburg (20-26), Sale (20-24), Corbin (19-24), deGrom (19-23), Darvish (18-23), Wheeler (20-24)

Pretty cool that Lester and the guy the Cubs initially targeted (Tanaka) are so close.