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Maybe this was covered, but can someone tell me why we didn't have our 3rd year QB take ANY preseason snaps?

injury prevention

 

I have hope that Trubisky not taking preseason reps will account for all of his inefficiencies last night and he drastically improves. In fact, I'm hanging my hat on it. But man he better start improving over the next 2 games.

 

It was stupid of Nagy

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We are trapped in a neverending cycle of anointing the Bears franchise QB. Defend his mistakes early on, keep defending them for way too long, make excuses for lack of improvement, latch on to flashes of good play to use as evidence that he's turning the corner, don't notice that said QB is slowly becoming a mockery to the rest of the football world, finally cave and admit they are not going to be a star QB (sometimes)

 

Rex, even Orton a little in 2005, and big time Jay. I mean I was still holding out hope that Jay was turning the corner during the Adam Gase year which was his 7th as a Bear at age 32. Truth is, none of us knows what its like to watch your favorite team draft a QB and develop them into a star. Hopefully one day we get that experience.

 

Also, as much as I'm down on Mitch, 10% of me still thinks he can turn the corner even though he has not really improved in 2 years and struggles in areas where you don't really see marked improvements over a career.

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Maybe this was covered, but can someone tell me why we didn't have our 3rd year QB take ANY preseason snaps?

injury prevention

 

I have hope that Trubisky not taking preseason reps will account for all of his inefficiencies last night and he drastically improves. In fact, I'm hanging my hat on it. But man he better start improving over the next 2 games.

 

It was stupid of Nagy

 

That decision of not playing him in the preseason was the right move, I'm sure he had more than enough reps against the best defense in the league. However, his game plan last night restricted Trubisky and combined that with Trubisky's inconsistent play and you get that awful performance. Nagy put him in a position to fail and Trubisky followed-through. Trubisky needs to get better and Nagy didn't help.

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We are trapped in a neverending cycle of anointing the Bears franchise QB. Defend his mistakes early on, keep defending them for way too long, make excuses for lack of improvement, latch on to flashes of good play to use as evidence that he's turning the corner, don't notice that said QB is slowly becoming a mockery to the rest of the football world, finally cave and admit they are not going to be a star QB (sometimes)

 

Rex, even Orton a little in 2005, and big time Jay. I mean I was still holding out hope that Jay was turning the corner during the Adam Gase year which was his 7th as a Bear at age 32. Truth is, none of us knows what its like to watch your favorite team draft a QB and develop them into a star. Hopefully one day we get that experience.

 

Also, as much as I'm down on Mitch, 10% of me still thinks he can turn the corner even though he has not really improved in 2 years and struggles in areas where you don't really see marked improvements over a career.

 

 

I believe you're correct, for me it's 0%, its never going to happen, we'll get flashes but, never consistency. And to think I had thoughts the offense was going to take off, GB for all the defensive improvement, still left receivers open all over the place. Mitch will not ever see them.

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horsefeathers I'm not even hoping for pro-bowl level QB play from Mitch, I just want him competent enough for the Bears to be serious contenders on the back of an elite D. Its a lot harder to do that way than having a Tom Brady carry you there, but I'd rather look forward to something like the 2013 Ravens or even 2007 Bears than having to face tearing it all down and starting over. This franchise is doomed to never draft an elite QB.
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injury prevention

 

I have hope that Trubisky not taking preseason reps will account for all of his inefficiencies last night and he drastically improves. In fact, I'm hanging my hat on it. But man he better start improving over the next 2 games.

 

It was stupid of Nagy

 

That decision of not playing him in the preseason was the right move, I'm sure he had more than enough reps against the best defense in the league. However, his game plan last night restricted Trubisky and combined that with Trubisky's inconsistent play and you get that awful performance. Nagy put him in a position to fail and Trubisky followed-through. Trubisky needs to get better and Nagy didn't help.

 

Yeah I still see entire chunks of the game where its pretty clear that Nagy has taken away half the field for Mitch. That's like seriously alarming in year 2 of an offense and a 3rd year QB. And then you see moments where its like a light switch is turned on and all the sudden Mitch is gunning it all around the field. Saw it big time in the playoff game and again last night. What are we doing differently that causes the offense to dramatically improve and how can we get that offense all game?

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horsefeathers I'm not even hoping for pro-bowl level QB play from Mitch, I just want him competent enough for the Bears to be serious contenders on the back of an elite D. Its a lot harder to do that way than having a Tom Brady carry you there, but I'd rather look forward to something like the 2013 Ravens or even 2007 Bears than having to face tearing it all down and starting over. This franchise is doomed to never draft an elite QB.

 

This defense will regress in some fashion whether it's injuries, lack of turnovers especially TDs following them, roster, etc. Trubisky has to make up for that.

 

Am I the only who's upset they want him to be more of a pure pocket passer?

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injury prevention

 

I have hope that Trubisky not taking preseason reps will account for all of his inefficiencies last night and he drastically improves. In fact, I'm hanging my hat on it. But man he better start improving over the next 2 games.

 

It was stupid of Nagy

 

That decision of not playing him in the preseason was the right move, I'm sure he had more than enough reps against the best defense in the league. However, his game plan last night restricted Trubisky and combined that with Trubisky's inconsistent play and you get that awful performance. Nagy put him in a position to fail and Trubisky followed-through. Trubisky needs to get better and Nagy didn't help.

 

I don't buy into that. Trubisky was inexperienced when we drafted him. Last year, his first full season starting, he got better as the season moved along. To me, he's a player that needs A LOT of experience in live games. Going against your teammates in practice isn't the same. He should have played in at least 2 (and probably 3) preseason games. It's not to risk injury, its to get him making decisions real-time in real competition.

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Am I the only who's upset they want him to be more of a pure pocket passer?

 

no you're not-I'm not happy with that. its a stupid way to play him. Hell, the Packers said as much by saying something to the effect "we knew we could win if we made him play QB"

 

eta: In fact, when we let Fox go I was excited to think we could get a progressive offense-minded coach who liked things like rollouts and designed QB runs to utilize his athleticism. But every now and then, I have to squint to see if its truly Nagy behind the play-card, and not good 'ol Foxy himself.

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We are trapped in a neverending cycle of anointing the Bears franchise QB. Defend his mistakes early on, keep defending them for way too long, make excuses for lack of improvement, latch on to flashes of good play to use as evidence that he's turning the corner, don't notice that said QB is slowly becoming a mockery to the rest of the football world, finally cave and admit they are not going to be a star QB (sometimes)

 

Rex, even Orton a little in 2005, and big time Jay. I mean I was still holding out hope that Jay was turning the corner during the Adam Gase year which was his 7th as a Bear at age 32. Truth is, none of us knows what its like to watch your favorite team draft a QB and develop them into a star. Hopefully one day we get that experience.

 

Also, as much as I'm down on Mitch, 10% of me still thinks he can turn the corner even though he has not really improved in 2 years and struggles in areas where you don't really see marked improvements over a career.

Depends on what turning the corner might mean. He's not gonna be a tier 1(Rodgers )or tier 2 (Rivers) or tier 3 (Ryan) . Can he be a Flacco/tier 4? Maybe, I'd say.

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We are trapped in a neverending cycle of anointing the Bears franchise QB. Defend his mistakes early on, keep defending them for way too long, make excuses for lack of improvement, latch on to flashes of good play to use as evidence that he's turning the corner, don't notice that said QB is slowly becoming a mockery to the rest of the football world, finally cave and admit they are not going to be a star QB (sometimes)

 

Rex, even Orton a little in 2005, and big time Jay. I mean I was still holding out hope that Jay was turning the corner during the Adam Gase year which was his 7th as a Bear at age 32. Truth is, none of us knows what its like to watch your favorite team draft a QB and develop them into a star. Hopefully one day we get that experience.

 

Also, as much as I'm down on Mitch, 10% of me still thinks he can turn the corner even though he has not really improved in 2 years and struggles in areas where you don't really see marked improvements over a career.

 

Some of us realized 30 years ago that the Bears would never have a franchise QB, and so never expect any that they draft/sign to turn into one

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Teams that start 0-2 have a 5% chance of making the playoffs. Like last year, I feel that game 2 is a must win.

 

Think we'll see a bunch of running in an attempt to take the ball out of Mitch' hands?

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Teams that start 0-2 have a 5% chance of making the playoffs. Like last year, I feel that game 2 is a must win.

 

Think we'll see a bunch of running in an attempt to take the ball out of Mitch' hands?

 

I hope it would be to balance the offense and get more touches to Montgomery and especially Cohen. Either way you phrase it, the result should be the same.

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Teams that start 0-2 have a 5% chance of making the playoffs. Like last year, I feel that game 2 is a must win.

 

Think we'll see a bunch of running in an attempt to take the ball out of Mitch' hands?

 

I hope it would be to balance the offense and get more touches to Montgomery and especially Cohen. Either way you phrase it, the result should be the same.

 

 

Worst possible outcome for week 1, Bears lose, offense is terrible, Mitch is worse and everyone else in the NFC North wins. Might be a bit melodramtic to say but, they must win in Denver.

 

On a side note - I've read quite a bit about Mitch only looking in the direction he's going to throw, wouldn't looking off your target be QB 101? Why is Mitch unable to do so?

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Teams that start 0-2 have a 5% chance of making the playoffs. Like last year, I feel that game 2 is a must win.

 

Think we'll see a bunch of running in an attempt to take the ball out of Mitch' hands?

 

Nagy won’t do it. He’s stubborn. See Chiefs playoff game in 2018, 2018 with Bears, last week’s game down 4 with a struggling QB and an exciting young RB.

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I was done talking about this game, but damn was the OL bad last week.

 

Trubisky was hit 11 times on Thursday, more than any other QB in Week 1 (does not include times he ran). Trubisky had the 7th fastest time from snap to throw of 2.51 seconds. Granted he passed 53 times, but this is atrocious OL play. Maybe this is the group that needed preseason.

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I remember seeing somewhere that the conditions had already been met, it was a very low bar like it's only not met if Mack never played for the Bears or something like that.
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Hope the Raiders aren’t decent this year. Really need that 2nd rounder to be an almost 1st rounder

What are the conditions of the 5th round pick?

 

For the Jordan Howard trade? I was looking at that last week and I couldn't find anything other than "Based on unknown performance metrics"

 

Edit: Oh nevermind, I forgot there was a 5th too for the Mack trade. I think the conditions have been met

Edited by UMFan83

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