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“Our guys didn't get a lot of reps in the preseason”

 

-real thing said by Nagy postgame. I don’t know the context but holy horsefeathers

 

He better have finished that statement with “because I didn’t let them.” I was OK with rust over injuries in the preseason. But the 3rd down playcalling was inexcuseable lack of preseason reps or not.

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As a team, the Bears looked much, much better than the Packers in this game.

Man, I don't think that's true. Bears had a strong opening quarter, then beat up on Deshone Kizer for a couple series before absolutely [expletive] the bed the entire second half.

I'll give you that the QB play was sub-par in the 2nd half and that the play calling was insanely conservative (it seems to be the cross you have to bare when you are leading in the NFL) but other than that, the bears looked really good. The Packers' secondary is above average this year, and you can't blame Trubisky for not wanting to throw into tight coverage when he's up big. You just have to hope that the coaching staff realizes that Cohen needs to be on the field no matter the score and that Trubisky realizes that Robinson is going to win most of his jump balls. He isn't used to having actual receivers. ...and yes, Kizer really, really sucked, but Kizer is basically the definition of a replacement level QB.

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Wonder if Packers would have gone to the quick plays and three step drop like they did in the second half had Rodgers not been hurt to neutralize Mack. Rodgers’ injury might have helped their game plan for the better.
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Just give the horsefeathering ball to Howard on 3rd & 1. Even if he doesn’t get it, you at least gave the ball to your best offensive player. Inexcusable call.

 

Packers also used their last timeout, so it would have taken more time off the clock, not that they actually needed it.

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Wonder if Packers would have gone to the quick plays and three step drop like they did in the second half had Rodgers not been hurt to neutralize Mack. Rodgers’ injury might have helped their game plan for the better.

 

Yeah, probably. It's what they've always done against the Bears.

 

Really poorly coached game by the Bears.

 

Trubisky started 7-7 for 104 yards. Was 16-28, 67 yards after. Take out the 2-7 for 18 yards on the final drive. Trubisky was 14-21 (still 67% completion), but for 49 yards. That's disgusting. Only 3 of those 21 passes were thrown more than 3 yards from the LOS.

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We'll see how they do after the 1st series of scripted plays has passed.

 

I am looking forward to Smith starting.

 

Whitehair should not be the starting C, his snaps were overlooked last night. I'm curious to see the PFF scores because the interior OLine had a rough night against a solid GB core.

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If I was honest a week ago, i wouldn’t have expected to win last night. But that was such a colossal let down its impossible not to regret. I get all the yammering about Trubisky’s inaccuracy, but the play calling (3 and 1 with Howard running absolute havoc on their D, and we try to pass???) and Fuller killed me more. Trubisky missed, but he managed to miss w/o an int and none of those misses looked close to a pick. Trubisky has a lot of work to do, but it seems this offense will improve. The D looks insane with Mack in there, but we cant blitz blitz blitz on 3 step drops. It opens up their short to medium game and wears our guys out even faster.

 

Rodgers was on one horsefeathering leg. Good luck with that injury all season long GB

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We'll see how they do after the 1st series of scripted plays has passed.

 

I am looking forward to Smith starting.

 

Whitehair should not be the starting C, his snaps were overlooked last night. I'm curious to see the PFF scores because the interior OLine had a rough night against a solid GB core.

 

Kush got his ass kicked all night. Wanna say Long and Massie were really good. Long had the 1 penalty when he literally slipped and grabbed a guy so as to not get his QB killed.

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We'll see how they do after the 1st series of scripted plays has passed.

 

I am looking forward to Smith starting.

 

Whitehair should not be the starting C, his snaps were overlooked last night. I'm curious to see the PFF scores because the interior OLine had a rough night against a solid GB core.

 

Kush got his ass kicked all night. Wanna say Long and Massie were really good. Long had the 1 penalty when he literally slipped and grabbed a guy so as to not get his QB killed.

 

It's pretty telling when a 2nd rounder at a non-skill position isn't starting. Massie and Long did well especially in the run blocks.

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We'll see how they do after the 1st series of scripted plays has passed.

 

I am looking forward to Smith starting.

 

Whitehair should not be the starting C, his snaps were overlooked last night. I'm curious to see the PFF scores because the interior OLine had a rough night against a solid GB core.

 

Kush got his ass kicked all night. Wanna say Long and Massie were really good. Long had the 1 penalty when he literally slipped and grabbed a guy so as to not get his QB killed.

 

It's pretty telling when a 2nd rounder at a non-skill position isn't starting. Massie and Long did well especially in the run blocks.

 

Has Daniels been a bust so far?

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We'll see how they do after the 1st series of scripted plays has passed.

 

I am looking forward to Smith starting.

 

Whitehair should not be the starting C, his snaps were overlooked last night. I'm curious to see the PFF scores because the interior OLine had a rough night against a solid GB core.

 

The interior is supposed to be the Bears’ strength too

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The Bears offense looked lost after they finished the scripted plays. They were definitely out coached. Mitch said the following, which was pretty concerning:

 

"We expected a lot of man coverage on third and short, and they came out and played a bunch of zone. Credit them for mixing it up. A lot of our calls were for built for man coverage and we just had some risky calls that we just went with."

 

The Packers played zone and the Bears just called plays to target man to man defenses and just hoped for the best? Yikes.

 

It was also a very discouraging performance from Mitch. He just turtled in the second half. He looked panicked and didn't know where to go with the ball.

 

I think that once the defense gets up and running with Mack and Roquan, they are going to be excellent. Roquan needs to play more because Kwiatkowski got shredded in coverage.

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The Bears offense looked lost after they finished the scripted plays. They were definitely out coached. Mitch said the following, which was pretty concerning:

 

"We expected a lot of man coverage on third and short, and they came out and played a bunch of zone. Credit them for mixing it up. A lot of our calls were for built for man coverage and we just had some risky calls that we just went with."

 

The Packers played zone and the Bears just called plays to target man to man defenses and just hoped for the best? Yikes.

 

It was also a very discouraging performance from Mitch. He just turtled in the second half. He looked panicked and didn't know where to go with the ball.

 

I think that once the defense gets up and running with Mack and Roquan, they are going to be excellent. Roquan needs to play more because Kwiatkowski got shredded in coverage.

 

I take away from this performance, that if you don't use it, you lose it. Mitch made excellent throws in the first 2 drives. Then got handcuffed by his coach. Then he was forced to open it back up with his team down and in the 2-minute drill against 8 in coverage. Hard to dial it back that far and then turn it back up with the game on the line.

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The Bears offense looked lost after they finished the scripted plays. They were definitely out coached. Mitch said the following, which was pretty concerning:

 

"We expected a lot of man coverage on third and short, and they came out and played a bunch of zone. Credit them for mixing it up. A lot of our calls were for built for man coverage and we just had some risky calls that we just went with."

 

The Packers played zone and the Bears just called plays to target man to man defenses and just hoped for the best? Yikes.

 

It was also a very discouraging performance from Mitch. He just turtled in the second half. He looked panicked and didn't know where to go with the ball.

 

I think that once the defense gets up and running with Mack and Roquan, they are going to be excellent. Roquan needs to play more because Kwiatkowski got shredded in coverage.

 

 

So they were calling risky plays and Mitch looked puzzled? Wth would you expect? They went hard conservative in the second half and when they finally got something going (Howard) they abandoned it when it was absolutely the clear choice?

 

 

Nagy HAS to embrace the fact that his best offensive guy is Howard wether or not he fits the scheme. That, or trade him to get a 1st rounder back somehow.

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Jordan was very effective on the ground. They should have continued the smash mouth football while also taking more advantage of Howard's new ability to catch screen passes. Nagy went with a very conservative play calling scheme with gadget plays that seemed to create confusion even for the offense. I'm fine with one of those plays once in awhile, but spreading the field is how the running game has a better chance of succeeding. I expected Trey Burton to lead the team in catches and he wasn't targeted much. He dropped some balls and that didn't help, but Trubisky needs to be turned loose on looking downfield. There should have been a lot more passes in the middle of the field, but it didn't appear that Nagy had anyone running short routes in the middle of the field. It felt like everything was a pass at the line of scrimmage to throwing it deep. Where was the in between stuff?

 

Lining up Cohen and/or Gabriel in the slots on each side of the field and dumping a screen to one of those guys coming across the middle behind the front 7 should have been a play that could have netted a lot of yards after the catch. Those guys can outrun anyone. Give them an opportunity to do that. Utilize these guys to their talents.

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No one was open

The offensive line couldn't hold the pocket

The dump pass was the only option most of the time

 

No one was open because the plays Nagy was calling took too long to get someone open, and Trubisky looked rattled anytime he held the football longer than 2 seconds. Crossing patterns in the middle of the field are almost always open and with the TE heavy schemes that Nagy is calling, Burton should have had close to 10 catches in the 10-15 yard range. There were just too many unknowns since they haven't played together and it showed. I think they will make adjustments, but it was a shame that they didn't look to get the main guys Robinson and Burton more involved in the passing game with routes that could have created more success.

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Kush got his ass kicked all night. Wanna say Long and Massie were really good. Long had the 1 penalty when he literally slipped and grabbed a guy so as to not get his QB killed.

 

It's pretty telling when a 2nd rounder at a non-skill position isn't starting. Massie and Long did well especially in the run blocks.

 

Has Daniels been a bust so far?

 

So far, yes.

 

Kush doesn't have an all-pro resume. He bounced from roster to roster/practice squad to squad with 5 career starts in 5 years. Now, if the tape is as telling as the visual was last night and Daniels doesn't start Monday, the optics are horrible.

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Wonder if Packers would have gone to the quick plays and three step drop like they did in the second half had Rodgers not been hurt to neutralize Mack. Rodgers’ injury might have helped their game plan for the better.

 

Yeah, probably. It's what they've always done against the Bears.

 

Really poorly coached game by the Bears.

 

Trubisky started 7-7 for 104 yards. Was 16-28, 67 yards after. Take out the 2-7 for 18 yards on the final drive. Trubisky was 14-21 (still 67% completion), but for 49 yards. That's disgusting. Only 3 of those 21 passes were thrown more than 3 yards from the LOS.

 

That was the norm with Fox, sure would like to see the end of this [expletive]. When it does end we'll see the Bears winning including kicking the Packers ass.

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Defenses still don't have to cover the left sideline against Mitch past the line of scrimmage. He completed one pass to his left (past los) the entire game.
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“Our guys didn't get a lot of reps in the preseason”

 

-real thing said by Nagy postgame. I don’t know the context but holy horsefeathers

horsefeathers this guy. I can't believe he had the balls to use that excuse.

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“Our guys didn't get a lot of reps in the preseason”

 

-real thing said by Nagy postgame. I don’t know the context but holy horsefeathers

horsefeathers this guy. I can't believe he had the balls to use that excuse.

 

Isn't reps one of the express purposes of the preseason? I'm with you on this point, this sh*thead better straighten some things out come Monday night.

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