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Let's just force him to get TJS even if its not necessary so that we can make the necessary moves for this season without his return being in question.
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With Yu & Chatwalk's respective struggles, Theo should kick the tires on ol' Teeth McLackey.

 

 

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Yu is gonna be fine, he probably was just reading the board lately thinking the season was over and decided to pack it in. Now that we are good he’ll be back. Edited by Cubswin11
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can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.
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can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.

We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.

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can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.

We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.

 

holy horsefeathers are you serious

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can we go back to early 2017 when we sucked, but we still had money and eloy to fix the rotation? it's insane how badly we whiffed on the new pitchers.

We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.

 

holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

 

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.

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We got to the NLCS last year a good chunk due to Q and I mean what else was there to do this offseason? Legit asking? Do nothing last year and miss the playoffs and then trade Eloy for Cole? We still need two other starters.

 

holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

 

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.

 

your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

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holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

 

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.

 

your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

 

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.

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holy horsefeathers are you serious

Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

 

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.

 

your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

My question makes perfect sense and you know it. They made the best possible moves with the resources and information they had with the reasonably available guys at the time of need to not only make the playoffs and get a few wins from another WS last year to adding the best possible FAs this year.

 

Yes they’ve been let downs this year but there’s really no realistic alternatives outside of really Monday morning quarterbacking it. Unless you were perfectly fine with punting last year and adding no best option pitchers this offseason and hoping someone else would be available via trade come this deadline.

 

It’s a process vs results thing mostly for me. I’m very fine with the process of the additions but the results have been lacking.

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Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

 

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.

 

your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

 

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.

Verlander stings but at the same time we have no idea what they were asking and he was still a 33/34 year old pitcher who was owed over $60 million at the time he was traded

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your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

 

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.

Verlander stings but at the same time we have no idea what they were asking and he was still a 33/34 year old pitcher who was owed over $60 million at the time he was traded

I don't think it takes a whole lot of monday morning qb'ing to question that one, though. It probably means they make the Chatwood move, but not the Darvish move. But that still leaves us better off.

 

Clearly they valued Houston's package more. But Detroit's return wasn't a blockbuster we couldn't have competed with. We chose not to match.

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Q was a very good trade, even though we gave up a lot.

 

I was pissed at the time and I'm still pissed that we missed out on Verlander, though. Get Verlander and Q last summer and things could have been different both last fall and this year.

Verlander stings but at the same time we have no idea what they were asking and he was still a 33/34 year old pitcher who was owed over $60 million at the time he was traded

I don't think it takes a whole lot of monday morning qb'ing to question that one, though. It probably means they make the Chatwood move, but not the Darvish move. But that still leaves us better off.

 

Clearly they valued Houston's package more. But Detroit's return wasn't a blockbuster we couldn't have competed with. We chose not to match.

I think I still would rather do Darvish at 6/120 at 31 YO than Verlander at 2.5/60+ + an option year that vests for another 20+ at 34 YO. If I were asked what I preferred at the time of the Verlander trade last year.

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Yes. Given who was available at the times we needed to make moves what are the trades or FA signings you’d do?

 

I’m not arguing to date they’ve worked out to what we wished but what are the other moves. We needed 3 starters last year at this time.

 

your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

My question makes perfect sense and you know it. They made the best possible moves with the resources and information they had with the reasonably available guys at the time of need to not only make the playoffs and get a few wins from another WS last year to adding the best possible FAs this year.

 

Yes they’ve been let downs this year but there’s really no realistic alternatives outside of really Monday morning quarterbacking it. Unless you were perfectly fine with punting last year and adding no best option pitchers this offseason and hoping someone else would be available via trade come this deadline.

 

It’s a process vs results thing mostly for me. I’m very fine with the process of the additions but the results have been lacking.

 

i made a post saying i wish we could have a do-over on some whiffs (and yes, i think quintana is a whiff so far), and you're basically saying "oh yeah, what moves did YOU have lined up?". i've said nothing about the process or how the trades appeared at the time. i'm saying i wish they hadn't turned out like this. you have no point. i don't know what you're doing.

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your questions make no horsefeathering sense. I'm not pretending like i know who they should have gotten. I'm saying that having a ton of resources to spend on 2 unknown high-quality long-term pitchers is favorable to having already spent the assets and gotten 2 huge turds.

My question makes perfect sense and you know it. They made the best possible moves with the resources and information they had with the reasonably available guys at the time of need to not only make the playoffs and get a few wins from another WS last year to adding the best possible FAs this year.

 

Yes they’ve been let downs this year but there’s really no realistic alternatives outside of really Monday morning quarterbacking it. Unless you were perfectly fine with punting last year and adding no best option pitchers this offseason and hoping someone else would be available via trade come this deadline.

 

It’s a process vs results thing mostly for me. I’m very fine with the process of the additions but the results have been lacking.

 

i made a post saying i wish we could have a do-over on some whiffs (and yes, i think quintana is a whiff so far), and you're basically saying "oh yeah, what moves did YOU have lined up?". i've said nothing about the process or how the trades appeared at the time. i'm saying i wish they hadn't turned out like this. you have no point. i don't know what you're doing.

What’s the do over though? The do over is not making the playoffs last year and holding on to precious Eloy and then doing what? We needed 3 pitchers last year for this year including at least one at the deadline last year for any chance to make the playoffs. We all wish these moves were better to date but we NEEEDED to make 3 moves and I think we made the best moves with what we had to use and what was available. It sucks they haven’t worked but it is what it is and we are still in a great spot if they pitch like they can.

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