It turns out the real Yu Darvish was the friends we made in this thread

[Derwood]

Yu, Yu got what I need but you say he's just a friend

 

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I think Mojo made this joke 40 pages ago. But I'll allow it, because we are all bored and want to die

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Yu, Yu got what I need but you say he's just a friend

 

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I think Mojo made this joke 40 pages ago. But I'll allow it, because we are all bored and want to die

 

Yu, Yu, Yu oughta know!

[JudasIscariotTheBird]

Yu, Yu got what I need but you say he's just a friend

 

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I think Mojo made this joke 40 pages ago. But I'll allow it, because we are all bored and want to die

 

Yu, Yu, Yu oughta know!

Since we are all just sitting around waiting, go listen to that song and see if you can identify who played the guitar and bass for that track. Weird, huh?

[WoodRules]

Yu can still rock in america.

[HawkeTrackler]

I want Yu, to want me

[Clem Fandango]

[Perd]

Don’t give up on us, baby

We can still sign Yu

[Regular Show]

I really hate how much the Player's Union and agents are bitching about "collusion" and the lack of activity this offseason. We KNOW most of these FAs have gotten offers worth millions of dollars at high AAVs... It seems like the holdup is how many years teams want to give to these FAs, and that a market correction is happening.

 

Teams are still willing to pay top dollar, but they don't want to pay for those declining years when the player is less valuable. That's not collusion -- that's being smart. Every team seems to be reluctant about giving long-term deals to Darvish, Arrieta and Cobb.

[Sammys Boombox]

I think you have more teams than normal that are probably outside their competitive windows this year. Couple that with multiple big spending teams apparently trying to get below the luxury tax, and a fairly underwhelming FA class overall followed by a very talented class.

 

I really think in today’s game the idea of collusion is pretty ridiculous. To successfully collude the executives would have to be involved, and I just do not see that as a remote possibility.

[d_money]

I think you have more teams than normal that are probably outside their competitive windows this year. Couple that with multiple big spending teams apparently trying to get below the luxury tax, and a fairly underwhelming FA class overall followed by a very talented class.

 

I really think in today’s game the idea of collusion is pretty ridiculous. To successfully collude the executives would have to be involved, and I just do not see that as a remote possibility.

It’s the players fault for signing the CBA. There was never a cap for years and the players caved and got taken to the hoop by the owners. They can renegotiate on 2021 when the current CBA expires.

[Agony and Ivy]

I think you have more teams than normal that are probably outside their competitive windows this year. Couple that with multiple big spending teams apparently trying to get below the luxury tax, and a fairly underwhelming FA class overall followed by a very talented class.

 

I really think in today’s game the idea of collusion is pretty ridiculous. To successfully collude the executives would have to be involved, and I just do not see that as a remote possibility.

It’s the players fault for signing the CBA. There was never a cap for years and the players caved and got taken to the hoop by the owners. They can renegotiate on 2021 when the current CBA expires.

 

And I think this "soft cap" will be damn near impossible to walk back. Billionaires will always outlast millionaires when there is a work stoppage. The answer isn't trying to force teams to sign aging vets. The answer is to properly compensate players early in their careers and I'm not sure the MLBPA is strong enough to get that kind of concession.

[squally1313]

With aging curves the way that they are, players are incredibly underpaid at the beginning of their career, starting in the minor leagues. The MLBPA never really had an issue with it back when everyone was getting hundreds of millions of dollars to play through their late 30s, but now they aren't getting that 'catch up' money on the back end because it makes no sense from a team building perspective.

 

Either bump up the pay scale for the young stars, or shorten the length of team control you agree to when you sign as an amateur. But good luck getting all the veteran players who have all the say at the MLBPA to agree to that.

[Brian707]

Yu, Yu got what I need but you say he's just a friend

 

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I think Mojo made this joke 40 pages ago. But I'll allow it, because we are all bored and want to die

 

Yu are right, my bad.

[champaignchris]

This isn’t 1987 when Andre Dawson signed a contract for less than $500,000 a year.

 

Darvish probably has at least two $100+ million contract offers that he can accept at any time. Players like Cobb and Holland and Hosmer were all offered $17M qualifying offers that they could have taken, earning them more money next year than they’re probably worth, but they turned it down because they thought they’d get more money. The Cubs would have signed Kris Bryant to an extension at any point in the last 48 months that would have probably earned him $50M+ over what he’s going to make in his arbitration years.

 

MLB teams will pay good money for good players. We’ll see that next year when Kershaw and Harper will be vying to become the highest paid player in baseball history. What I see is less collusion and more players failing to adjust to to the market created by the new CBA and front offices’ realization that (to paraphrase Theo) the system as it stands punishes teams that win 75 games instead of 65 games.

[Sammy Sofa]

Never side with management.

[Lefty]

Never side with management.

 

It's not "siding." It's understanding someone else's position.

[Sammy Sofa]

That's how they win.

[CubinNY]

Never side with management.

 

It's not "siding." It's understanding someone else's position.

No. It’s years of propaganda. All fans should side with the workers.

[Sammys Boombox]

:roll:

[Banedon]

Never side with management.

 

It's not "siding." It's understanding someone else's position.

No. It’s years of propaganda. All fans should side with the workers.

 

I don't know that it's necessarily propaganda, as much as it is that sports fans have a feeling of "ownership" in their team. Players come and go, but your team is your team...so a fan's natural interest is in the team's benefit.

 

I agree that fans should side with the workers, but I completely understand why they don't generally.

[Backtobanks]

I think you have to side with the players to get as much as they can because they have a limited career. The owners are making hundreds of millions per year (win or lose) and when they decide to sell they make an obscene profit on their original investment.

[d_money]

I want to side with the players but they’re the dumbasses that agreed to the soft cap, which was never in place previously.

[Sammy Sofa]

"Man, these guys really ngotiated a bad deal. Welp, owners 4 life it is, then."

[UMFan83]

Yu, is that you? Bark twice if you're in Milwaukee

[Sammy Sofa]

It's only a matter of time before we get someone saying something, like, "yes, but just look at how little they spent for all of that WAR. JUST LOOK AT IT. Surely it's the right thing to do because it's so smart. Now, please excuse me while I go buy some more jacked up tickets."