Week 13: Jimmy Garoppolo's 49ers @ John Fox's Bears Noon CBS

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'm not one who would ever try the "let them score" tactic because I just don't believe that it works and Fox is just searching for a rationalization to the fact he's about to be let go, but being so hideously bad in close games and games you are picked to win is unacceptable. It never should have come down to that. Absolute horeshit

[SpongeWorthy]

I didn't watch a second of this horsefeathers show but 36 snaps for 147 total yards against the Niners?

 

 

How sway

[UMFan83]

I'm not one who would ever try the "let them score" tactic because I just don't believe that it works and Fox is just searching for a rationalization to the fact he's about to be let go, but being so hideously bad in close games and games you are picked to win is unacceptable. It never should have come down to that. Absolute horsefeathers

 

Explain why you wouldn’t let them score in this situation:

 

Let them score: Get ball back down 5 with 1:40 left

 

Don’t let them score: They score anyways 99% of the time and you have to return a kickoff for a TD to win it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'm not one who would ever try the "let them score" tactic because I just don't believe that it works and Fox is just searching for a rationalization to the fact he's about to be let go, but being so hideously bad in close games and games you are picked to win is unacceptable. It never should have come down to that. Absolute horsefeathers

 

Explain why you wouldn’t let them score in this situation:

 

Let them score: Get ball back down 5 with 1:40 left

 

Don’t let them score: They score anyways 99% of the time and you have to return a kickoff for a TD to win it.

 

explain to me how we got there in the first [expletive] place. You really think Fox and Co could competently put together a 2 min offense to score a TD?

[UMFan83]

I'm not one who would ever try the "let them score" tactic because I just don't believe that it works and Fox is just searching for a rationalization to the fact he's about to be let go, but being so hideously bad in close games and games you are picked to win is unacceptable. It never should have come down to that. Absolute horsefeathers

 

Explain why you wouldn’t let them score in this situation:

 

Let them score: Get ball back down 5 with 1:40 left

 

Don’t let them score: They score anyways 99% of the time and you have to return a kickoff for a TD to win it.

 

explain to me how we got there in the first [expletive] place. You really think Fox and Co could competently put together a 2 min offense to score a TD?

 

It’s more likely than a FG block or miss from 23 yards out or a kickoff return for TD.

[minnesotacubsfan]

in this case,I agree with Fox that the best path to a deeply improbably victory rests on the shoulders of luck and sorcery. might as well go for the blocked FG and KO return for td

 

horsefeathers it

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

Explain why you wouldn’t let them score in this situation:

 

Let them score: Get ball back down 5 with 1:40 left

 

Don’t let them score: They score anyways 99% of the time and you have to return a kickoff for a TD to win it.

 

explain to me how we got there in the first [expletive] place. You really think Fox and Co could competently put together a 2 min offense to score a TD?

 

It’s more likely than a FG block or miss from 23 yards out or a kickoff return for TD.

 

not at all. the chance one of their guys false starts, misses a block or flat out dies on the snap allowing the Bears to crash Gould (like 2%) was far more probable then Fox/Loggains getting their horsefeathers together for less then two minutes (like 0%).

[minnesotacubsfan]

"Nothing good can happen if I TRY to coach, might as well hope they fail" - John Fox

 

 

I concur

[UMFan83]

 

explain to me how we got there in the first [expletive] place. You really think Fox and Co could competently put together a 2 min offense to score a TD?

 

It’s more likely than a FG block or miss from 23 yards out or a kickoff return for TD.

 

not at all. the chance one of their guys false starts, misses a block or flat out dies on the snap allowing the Bears to crash Gould (like 2%) was far more probable then Fox/Loggains getting their horsefeathers together for less then two minutes (like 0%).

 

Well he’s 93-94 for his career on FGs inside 30 yards so you are already wrong with regards to probabilities

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

It’s more likely than a FG block or miss from 23 yards out or a kickoff return for TD.

 

not at all. the chance one of their guys false starts, misses a block or flat out dies on the snap allowing the Bears to crash Gould (like 2%) was far more probable then Fox/Loggains getting their horsefeathers together for less then two minutes (like 0%).

 

Well he’s 93-94 for his career on FGs inside 30 yards so you are already wrong with regards to probabilities

 

given the alternative, I'd still take that chance. Its just what you're stuck with when you got Good 'ole Johnny at the helm

 

and I'm not that far off with my 2% dammit. pretty horsefeathering close tbh

[raw]

Trubisky has some accuracy problems but calling him a bust is extreme

 

Honestly I don’t even know what I’m looking at. It’s the most basic play calling I’ve seen since Shoop and receivers can’t get open save a few plays. Most of those are quick routes where there’s no read planned.

 

He didn't even have accuracy problems today. 12-for-15 and at least one of the three incompletes was a drop. I might have missed a play here and there, but the only inaccurate throw I can remember was the one on the "free play" when there was a penalty and he tried to force in an 8-yard curl. That's also the only bad decision I really remember.

 

It's hard to give him a full evaluation when he only throws 15 passes, but this was the best he's looked so far.

 

Mitch was great today outside of the fumbled snap. And you're right, 1 bad decision and it didn't count. He did have another inaccurate throw for 1 of his incompletions, but I got no complaints about Mitch today. Definitely wasn't the problem.

 

It's pretty amazing, the Bears finished today (if you take out the QB scrambles) 15 passes and 15 run plays. So, they actually called 22 passes (4 scrambles, 2 sacks, 1 fumbled snap). Yet somehow, Mitch was only 2-3 passing on 1st down, with one of those coming on a throwaway play on the last play of the first half. Take out the fumbled snap and a scramble, and Loggains again called 5 passing plays of the 14 first down plays. On those 9 runs, the Bears averaged 2.8 yards per carry. Of those 26 yards on 1st down runs by the RB, 1 was 14 yards. The other 8 runs got 12 total yards. So, the Bears were already behind the 8 ball (the 8 1/2 yards to go ball) when they let Trubisky throw.

[David]

Trubisky has some accuracy problems but calling him a bust is extreme

 

Honestly I don’t even know what I’m looking at. It’s the most basic play calling I’ve seen since Shoop and receivers can’t get open save a few plays. Most of those are quick routes where there’s no read planned.

 

He didn't even have accuracy problems today. 12-for-15 and at least one of the three incompletes was a drop. I might have missed a play here and there, but the only inaccurate throw I can remember was the one on the "free play" when there was a penalty and he tried to force in an 8-yard curl. That's also the only bad decision I really remember.

 

It's hard to give him a full evaluation when he only throws 15 passes, but this was the best he's looked so far.

 

Mitch was great today outside of the fumbled snap. And you're right, 1 bad decision and it didn't count. He did have another inaccurate throw for 1 of his incompletions, but I got no complaints about Mitch today. Definitely wasn't the problem.

 

It's pretty amazing, the Bears finished today (if you take out the QB scrambles) 15 passes and 15 run plays. So, they actually called 22 passes (4 scrambles, 2 sacks, 1 fumbled snap). Yet somehow, Mitch was only 2-3 passing on 1st down, with one of those coming on a throwaway play on the last play of the first half. Take out the fumbled snap and a scramble, and Loggains again called 5 passing plays of the 14 first down plays. On those 9 runs, the Bears averaged 2.8 yards per carry. Of those 26 yards on 1st down runs by the RB, 1 was 14 yards. The other 8 runs got 12 total yards. So, the Bears were already behind the 8 ball (the 8 1/2 yards to go ball) when they let Trubisky throw.

 

I feel like that's how it's been for just about all of his starts, and even more exaggeratedly so in the first few.

[jersey cubs fan]

McDaniels plz

 

FWIW

[Soul]

Do we need to wait for Black Monday?

[jersey cubs fan]

Do we need to wait for Black Monday?

need to? absolutely not

 

but we probably will.

 

The Bears want to be known as a stable franchise. That's pretty much what Fox was hired for in the first place, to be bland and professional. I don't buy the story that they don't want to fire him because that would force Fangio into interim role and then they'd be pressured to hire him full time if he accidentally wins. That just does not make sense. They probably know they can't fire him midseason and somebody floated this Fangio story to deflect.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Yea. The Bears will always present themselves as “the Grandfather” franchise because of GSH. I think its less business tact and more tradition

[17 Seconds]

football is a tragedy

[imb]

football is a tragedy

 

Are you talking about shazier?

[17 Seconds]

football is a tragedy

 

Are you talking about shazier?

 

yeah. i just can't watch tackle football anymore.

[imb]

football is a tragedy

 

Are you talking about shazier?

 

yeah. i just can't watch tackle football anymore.

 

I have never felt that sick to my stomach, though I only saw a clip on twitter. I can't imagine seeing it on tv live.

[minnesotacubsfan]

that was brutal. I havent heard if its a broken back, but man it looked like it

[Derwood]

that was brutal. I havent heard if its a broken back, but man it looked like it

 

Looked like a compressed spinal cord to me. Yikes

[OleMissCub]

[jersey cubs fan]

 

this is something that's bothering me about Trubisky and how the Bears are using him. The "first do no harm" approach to playing quarterback is not conducive to longterm success. You have to be willing to take chances.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

this is something that's bothering me about Trubisky and how the Bears are using him. The "first do no harm" approach to playing quarterback is not conducive to longterm success. You have to be willing to take chances.

 

Ansolutely