Offseason Transactions

[davell]

Eh, TT probably nailed it. Reed may have wanted to close.

[Cubswin11]

I wonder if they promised him the closer role and go him a little cheaper and he probably wasn’t interested/wanted more money to come here (or to another team) who couldn’t guarantee that

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I wonder if they promised him the closer role and go him a little cheaper and he probably wasn’t interested/wanted more money to come here (or to another team) who couldn’t guarantee that

 

I'm more surprised the Cardinals didn't make that happen. Gregerson, Lyons, and Cecil are all fine to good relievers, but Reed anchoring that pen would've made a pretty big difference and none of those 3 should've posed an obstacle to adding a closer. I guess they're counting on Reyes really bolstering things when he gets to the big leagues in May.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Given that the twins are a team that’s been mentioned in relation to Darvish all offseason, does this do anything to decrease their likelihood of signing him? $8.5 million a year isn’t a small amount for teamlike the twins.

 

And yeah, I really liked Reed as an option for us, but it seems like the Cubs have been focusing on other things.

[Cubswin11]

Given that the twins are a team that’s been mentioned in relation to Darvish all offseason, does this do anything to decrease their likelihood of signing him? $8.5 million a year isn’t a small amount for teamlike the twins.

 

And yeah, I really liked Reed as an option for us, but it seems like the Cubs have been focusing on other things.

I was always dubious on how real their interest/financial ability was for Darvish and how much he wanted to go there. I never really saw them as a threat unless they really went over the top on a offer (which I don't believe they could really afford). I view them more as a Cobb/Lynn landing spot or some of the bargain/risk guys like Tillman, Garcia, etc.

Edited January 13, 2018 by Cubswin11

[Cubswin11]

I wonder if they promised him the closer role and go him a little cheaper and he probably wasn’t interested/wanted more money to come here (or to another team) who couldn’t guarantee that

 

I'm more surprised the Cardinals didn't make that happen. Gregerson, Lyons, and Cecil are all fine to good relievers, but Reed anchoring that pen would've made a pretty big difference and none of those 3 should've posed an obstacle to adding a closer. I guess they're counting on Reyes really bolstering things when he gets to the big leagues in May.

Are they planning on Reyes being a pen only option this year or are they going to try and get him to start (with his innings likely being very limited and watched I'd guess bullpen route with maybe a handful of starts)? I could see them going after Colome now.

 

Also Passan, or one of the baseball guys on twitter, I just saw said Reed had 3 year offers but the ability to close and be in the Midwest was the reason he chose the Twins. I'm guessing we were a team with a 3 year offer out but couldn't guarantee closing opportunities.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Are they planning on Reyes being a pen only option this year or are they going to try and get him to start (with his innings likely being very limited and watched I'd guess bullpen route with maybe a handful of starts)? I could see them going after Colome now.

 

My understanding is he'll start in the pen but they also want him to start as the year progresses. It's kinda like they're using him as a hedge against both the rotation and the pen(both are lacking in top end options), which is understandable to not throw a bunch of money at a SP and then not have the innings, but also real risky since Reyes hasn't shown an ability to throw strikes as a starter.

[davell]

Given that the twins are a team that’s been mentioned in relation to Darvish all offseason, does this do anything to decrease their likelihood of signing him? $8.5 million a year isn’t a small amount for teamlike the twins.

 

And yeah, I really liked Reed as an option for us, but it seems like the Cubs have been focusing on other things.

I was always dubious on how real their interest/financial ability was for Darvish and how much he wanted to go there. I never really saw them as a threat unless they really went over the top on a offer (which I don't believe they could really afford). I view them more as a Cobb/Lynn landing spot or some of the bargain/risk guys like Tillman, Garcia, etc.

 

Lance Lynn is a perfect Twins signing.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Given that the twins are a team that’s been mentioned in relation to Darvish all offseason, does this do anything to decrease their likelihood of signing him? $8.5 million a year isn’t a small amount for teamlike the twins.

 

And yeah, I really liked Reed as an option for us, but it seems like the Cubs have been focusing on other things.

I was always dubious on how real their interest/financial ability was for Darvish and how much he wanted to go there. I never really saw them as a threat unless they really went over the top on a offer (which I don't believe they could really afford). I view them more as a Cobb/Lynn landing spot or some of the bargain/risk guys like Tillman, Garcia, etc.

 

Oh, I definitely agree with this, but it's still probably a good thing to see one of our four known competitors for Darvish allocate a decent amount of money elsewhere.

[Cubswin11]

Adrian Gonzalez and the Mets are “close” because of course that piss poor franchise would do that

[toonsterwu]

Twins have enough room that with a creative contract structure, they can be in the deep end if they want to. I mean, almost all their costliest contracts end in the next year or two - Mauer/Dozier after 18, Castro/Hughes/Santana after 19 (and they could certainly make sure Santana doesn't hit his 2019 option). I don't suspect Darvish ends up going there ... seems an odd market to go to for him, nothing against MInnesota, with no certainty that the Twins will maintain their competitiveness consistently.

 

As for Addison Reed ... yeah, that's a nice looking deal, and it sounds like the Cubs might've been able to compete (Passan noted he wanted to be in the Midwest so he passed up on 3 year deals). At this point, I imagine the Cubs are simply big-game hunting, in some respects, in regards to the pen. Looking at established closers, and otherwise being okay with their current options.

[Bear Cub]

Fernando Rodney was signed to be the Twins closer.

[Banedon]

Lol how petty is this?

 

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For the player or the team?

[toonsterwu]

Fernando Rodney was signed to be the Twins closer.

 

Ah forgot about that. Rodney probably isn't the best bet to keep the closer's job all year, but it does make Reed's decision a bit more interesting.

[Cubswin11]

Things are starting to pick up a bit it seems

 

[Cubswin11]

Adjust our win total by at least 3 wins with this greaseball off that team.

 

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[d_money]

Could StL be loading up on cost controlled pitching to flip to the Marlins for Yelich?

[MWV]

Could StL be loading up on cost controlled pitching to flip to the Marlins for Yelich?

Unless Pham is part of that deal, I doubt it. Their OF is probably set.

[Cubswin11]

Could StL be loading up on cost controlled pitching to flip to the Marlins for Yelich?

They think Pham is the second coming of Jesus. Ozuna/Pham/Dexter is their OF

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The Blue Jays are not good at this.

[Clem Fandango]

I love that they've traded Piscotty and Gruichuk, both winners of the BFIB's coveted "Would you rather have this guy instead of Kris Bryant" award

[champaignchris]

I love that they've traded Piscotty and Gruichuk, both winners of the BFIB's coveted "Would you rather have this guy instead of Kris Bryant" award

 

Also the guy that was better than Addison Russell.

[d_money]

Could StL be loading up on cost controlled pitching to flip to the Marlins for Yelich?

They think Pham is the second coming of Jesus. Ozuna/Pham/Dexter is their OF

Dexter’s arm in CF was weak and can only be worse in RF.

[Bull]

I feel like MLB needs to consider moving the arbitration deadlines and hearings to earlier in the off-season in the next CBA. I think a lot of the hang up with this off-season has been teams waiting to see where they stand after arbitration numbers are determined,

[bauermj]

I feel like MLB needs to consider moving the arbitration deadlines and hearings to earlier in the off-season in the next CBA. I think a lot of the hang up with this off-season has been teams waiting to see where they stand after arbitration numbers are determined,

 

Based on what? If there are public projection systems that get within +/- 10% for most of the eligible player pool I doubt the clubs are that in the dark.