Chris Bosio Fired

[David]

Based on exactly zero evidence, let me suggest a contrarian view. Is it possible that Arrieta or more likely Davis has let the Cubs know that he would under no circumstances return if Bosio were still the pitching coach.

 

I think Jake certainly said all the right things about Bosio's contribution to his success in the Cy Young offseason, but I seem to recall a couple of interviews later that offseason where Jake sort of deflated the "Bosio as miracle man" meme. Not much to build a case on, but adults who work in close quarters under pressure for extended periods have been known to act petulantly.

 

I'm not certain that I've ever heard anything about Davis vis a vis Bosio but who knows.

 

The only other pitcher on the staff that has the clout to anything with regards to Bosio is Lester.

 

Regardless of the cause, I am optimistic that Theo and Jed will make a good personnel decision.

 

I very much doubt this because I very much doubt either of those pitchers, especially Jake, is in our plans for next year, much less do I think we're basing coaching staff decisions on their wishes.

[Lowblow]

David,

 

You may well be right. Probably, it's likely that you're right. I doubt that such feedback from a potential free agent would be the "sole" reason that the Cubs would let Bosio go. Certainly if they were committed to keeping Bosio that wouldn't cut much ice.

Perhaps, as you suggest, the Cubs aren't committed to trying to sign Davis, but suppose that Alex Cobb is a friend of his (They did spend two years in Tampa together)...

 

I have no way to judge whether there is any substance to such a speculation, but I raise these thoughts to emphasize that nothing is as one dimensional as some of the people have suggested in this thread. There is a lot more that we don't know than what we do know!

 

While you are certain that the Cubs aren't going to pursue Arrieta or Davis, I am certain that Theo will keep his options open (see Fowler, Dexter). I find it likely that the Cubs will not commit the kind of money to Jake that he is seeking. However, if that becomes the best way to compete in the near term it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see him (or Davis) in Cub pinstripes next year.

[Cubswin11]

I’m guessing we won’t get an announcement on Hickey until Thursday at the earliest (first off day of WS) and likely not until next week after the WS now since MLB doesn’t like non WS related news/announcements on WS days.

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anyone know when the FO suggested Bosio would return or is he just making stuff up?

 

if it's based on Theo saying it was up to Joe what coaches returned? because that's not that.

 

Think Theo said it was up to Joe what coaches would return. And it was earlier in the week, or perhaps last week, that Joe said he expected to bring all his coaches back. So, within 10 days or less, something changed.

[CubinNY]

I hope he brings Archer with him.

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So, within 10 days or less, something changed.

They were eliminated so Joe could speak freely.

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Topkin must have graduated from the “Heyman School of Twittering.”

[Bull]

David,

 

You may well be right. Probably, it's likely that you're right. I doubt that such feedback from a potential free agent would be the "sole" reason that the Cubs would let Bosio go. Certainly if they were committed to keeping Bosio that wouldn't cut much ice.

Perhaps, as you suggest, the Cubs aren't committed to trying to sign Davis, but suppose that Alex Cobb is a friend of his (They did spend two years in Tampa together)...

 

I have no way to judge whether there is any substance to such a speculation, but I raise these thoughts to emphasize that nothing is as one dimensional as some of the people have suggested in this thread. There is a lot more that we don't know than what we do know!

 

While you are certain that the Cubs aren't going to pursue Arrieta or Davis, I am certain that Theo will keep his options open (see Fowler, Dexter). I find it likely that the Cubs will not commit the kind of money to Jake that he is seeking. However, if that becomes the best way to compete in the near term it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see him (or Davis) in Cub pinstripes next year.

 

Woah, since when are you back?!

[David]

the new hirings being announced today has me a *little* concerned about why hickey isn't one of them yet...i figured it was just a formality.

 

maybe just as simple as both sides wanting to explore all options.

 

edit - levine just said it's between hickey and maddux, and that hickey is down to giants and cubs.

[David]

jim hickey's face looks like it belongs on a 1930s baseball card

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Who would be the option if Hickey for whatever reason chose the Giants?

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Who would be the option if Hickey for whatever reason chose the Giants?

 

Greg Maddux

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Who would be the option if Hickey for whatever reason chose the Giants?

Lilliquist, maybe Rothschild with Girardi gone, Frank Viola, and Righetti off the top of my head

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Who would be the option if Hickey for whatever reason chose the Giants?

 

Chris Bosio.

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i really hope we don't have to settle for steve roth

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nightengale gonna nightengale

[Sammy Sofa]

i really hope we don't have to settle for steve roth

 

DICK POLE, COME ON DOWN.

[champaignchris]

DICK POLE, COME ON DOWN.

 

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nightengale gonna nightengale

 

It’s a good thing St. Louis already had a GM when Theo became available. Obviously would have been his first choice.

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[SouthSideRyan]

I'm not sure Chris Bosio isn't Ron Gardenhire.

[David]

I'm not sure Chris Bosio isn't Ron Gardenhire.

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