Bears offseason

[Guest]

For those debating how good the Bears front seven is, consider this from PFF. Bears rank 23rd

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-defensive-front-sevens-this-season/

 

Missing Goldman and McPhee, with Freeman being gone for 4 games, Floyd, Kwiatkowski, and Bullard being rookies.

 

Basically, looking at it, Hicks and Freeman are elite players. Goldman and Floyd are potential elite. McPhee and Young are solid. The front seven is fine. If they suffer a rash of injuries, it won't look great.

[WrigleyField 22]

For those debating how good the Bears front seven is, consider this from PFF. Bears rank 23rd

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-defensive-front-sevens-this-season/

 

Missing Goldman and McPhee, with Freeman being gone for 4 games, Floyd, Kwiatkowski, and Bullard being rookies.

 

Basically, looking at it, Hicks and Freeman are elite players. Goldman and Floyd are potential elite. McPhee and Young are solid. The front seven is fine. If they suffer a rash of injuries, it won't look great.

Injuries are gonna happen, and they arent that deep. Also not sure Id call Hicks elite. At times he plays at an elite level, but he hasnt been consistent throughout his career. And then Freeman, who is elite, is over 30.

 

So is our front seven the biggest need? No, but they should look to add some pieces.

[UMFan83]

For those debating how good the Bears front seven is, consider this from PFF. Bears rank 23rd

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-defensive-front-sevens-this-season/

 

Missing Goldman and McPhee, with Freeman being gone for 4 games, Floyd, Kwiatkowski, and Bullard being rookies.

 

Basically, looking at it, Hicks and Freeman are elite players. Goldman and Floyd are potential elite. McPhee and Young are solid. The front seven is fine. If they suffer a rash of injuries, it won't look great.

Injuries are gonna happen, and they arent that deep. Also not sure Id call Hicks elite. At times he plays at an elite level, but he hasnt been consistent throughout his career. And then Freeman, who is elite, is over 30.

 

So is our front seven the biggest need? No, but they should look to add some pieces.

 

Not exactly a bold statement to suggest we should add to a group that makes up nearly a third of the starting positions on a football team. Of course we should add depth but by far this is the group that least needs dramatic change

[jersey cubs fan]

For those debating how good the Bears front seven is, consider this from PFF. Bears rank 23rd

 

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-ranking-all-32-defensive-front-sevens-this-season/

 

Missing Goldman and McPhee, with Freeman being gone for 4 games, Floyd, Kwiatkowski, and Bullard being rookies.

 

Basically, looking at it, Hicks and Freeman are elite players. Goldman and Floyd are potential elite. McPhee and Young are solid. The front seven is fine. If they suffer a rash of injuries, it won't look great.

Injuries are gonna happen, and they arent that deep. Also not sure Id call Hicks elite. At times he plays at an elite level, but he hasnt been consistent throughout his career. And then Freeman, who is elite, is over 30.

 

So is our front seven the biggest need? No, but they should look to add some pieces.

You also can't just forget the fact that the elite Freeman who is over 30 "missed" 4 games due to a suspension for performance enhancing drugs.

[JonJayCutler]

If Jay goes to Houston, Arizona, or Denver I'll probably jump horsefeathering ship. That would be too much fun.

[UMFan83]

If Jay goes to Houston, Arizona, or Denver I'll probably jump horsefeathering ship. That would be too much fun.

 

Houston seems like a perfect landing spot for either Jay or Romo.

[Guest]

If Jay goes to Houston, Arizona, or Denver I'll probably jump horsefeathering ship. That would be too much fun.

 

not Denver, but if he goes to Houston, I'm a Texan fan for lyfe.

[WrigleyField 22]

If Jay goes to Houston, Arizona, or Denver I'll probably jump horsefeathering ship. That would be too much fun.

 

not Denver, but if he goes to Houston, I'm a Texan fan for lyfe.

Yea, he aint going to Denver, but I'd love it because all the Broncos fans I know hate him and are generally kinda smug dicks about it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I think it would be fantastic to get Watson Rd

2 https://www.google.com/amp/www.sportingnews.com/amp/nfl/news/nfl-draft-rumors-2017-quarterbacks-deshaun-watson-49ers-browns/t3pvkv342oav1m3bnaugzlvdk?client=safari

[jumbo]

 

Biggs' mailbag is must read these days. Some of the questions people are sending him are out of this world silly. I think my favorite was "what would it take for the Bears to trade for Garropolo and add in Gronkowski?"

 

Brad is some kind of saint for answering these questions with a quasi-straight face. If they were Boers and Bernstein callers each would be mocked, harassed and haranged by a screeching Bernstein (who is a real a-hole to all callers)

[Guest]

Clady was released today. Any interest?

[WrigleyField 22]

Clady was released today. Any interest?

From an ESPN article;

 

After all, Clady will be 31 in September and he's injury prone, having missed 37 of the last 64 games. He didn't play particularly well last season, although his supporters will note he was basically a one-armed tackle for a few games as he attempted to play through the torn rotator cuff.

 

Nah.

[WrigleyField 22]

Bears sign Kush to a 2 year deal.

 

http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4704903/bears-sign-ol-eric-kush-to-two-year-contract

[UMFan83]

Take it FWIW but Ed Werder reports that the Pats are not expected to trade Jimmy G this offseason

 

http://football.realgm.com/wiretap/38207/Report-Patriots-Not-Expected-To-Trade-Jimmy-Garoppolo-This-Offseason

[Banedon]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/tommie-harris-bears-wife-death/

[WrigleyField 22]

Take it FWIW but Ed Werder reports that the Pats are not expected to trade Jimmy G this offseason

 

http://football.realgm.com/wiretap/38207/Report-Patriots-Not-Expected-To-Trade-Jimmy-Garoppolo-This-Offseason

Good negotiation tactic.

[Proven Veteran]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/tommie-harris-bears-wife-death/

Nope. Can't read that.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/tommie-harris-bears-wife-death/

you dick!

[WrigleyField 22]

So I decided to play around with the fanspeak Manage the Cap and On The Clock

 

Re-Signed

Alshon Jeffery, WR

Ted Larsen, OG

Brian Hoyer, QB

Cornelius Washington, DL

Deonte Thompson, WR

Connor Shaw, QB

Bringing back Jeffery is a must if we want any chance at decent offense next year. Thompson and Washington are good ST and depth guys. Larsen a good OL depth guy. Not much else worth keeping after this. (Cut - Cutler, Houston, Royal)

 

FA Signings

DJ Swearinger, S

Dontari Poe, NT

Melvin Ingram, OLB

Logan Ryan, CB

Kai Forbath, K

Mychal Rivera, TE

-Honestly, felt a bit unrealistic, even with all the money they have to burn. But getting another top notch rusher to go with our current group, filling two secondary gaps, and a big time DL... all would be great gets. Hindsight though, the big money Poe will command probably wouldnt be worth it and you could get a couple mid range guys at positions like WR, S, CB, and DL. Rivera is a decent young TE. Looked at WR and couldn't come to terms with any, but adding one, particularly one to stretch the field, would be my goal. Probably would look for some other depth signings as well (RB, OT, LB, DL).

 

The Draft

3: QB Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina

-What can I say, I'm coming around. Could still be Watson. Or no QB at all. Lots of time left to figure out this pick.

36: CB Cordrea Tankersley, Clemson

-Good value and the size Fangio likes to see... should be plenty of good CB prospects around at this slot...

67: OT Roderick Johnson, Florida State

-Projection pick here. Nice and long frame and can run block, just needs some time and coaching.

109: WR Juju Smith-Schuster, USC

-Fit wise, not exactly what you'd say we need in a WR. Still the value felt right.

115: OLB Daeshon Hall, Texas A&M

-Sure, not the edge rusher you want from Texas A&M, but always good to add some pass rush prospects

148: LB Connor Harris, Lindenwood

-The small school guy may project as a special teamer and reserve, but gotta love the production, all time NCAA tackles leader

224: OLB/DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic

-Another good production guy. Might be an akward 3-4 scheme fit, but get him on board and plan to stash him on the Practice squad while you try and figure it out.

 

Projected 53 man/depth (bubble players/camp bodies/PS)

QB Brian Hoyer, Mitch Trubisky, (Connor Shaw)

RB Jordan Howard, Jeremy Langford, Ka'Deem Carey, (Bralon Addison, David Cobb)

FB (Paul Lasike)

WR Cameron Meredith, Juju Smith Shuster, Deonte Thompson, (Reuben Randle)

WR Alshon Jeffery, Kevin White, Josh Bellamy, (Daniel Braverman)

TE Zach Miller, Mychal Rivera, Daniel Brown, (Mycole Pruitt, Ben Braunecker)

LT Charles Leno Jr., Roderick Johnson

LG Josh Sitton, Ted Larsen

C Cody Whitehair (Hroniss Grasu)

RG Kyle Long, Eric Kush, (Cornelius Edison)

RT Bobby Massie, Mike Adams

 

DE Eddie Goldman, Cornelius Washington, Jonathan Bullard

NT Dontari Poe, Will Sutton, (CJ Wilson)

DE Akiem Hicks, Mitch Unrein (Ego Ferguson)

OLB Melvin Ingram, Willie Young, Daeshon Hall

OLB Pernell McPhee, Leonard Floyd, (Trey Hendrickson)

ILB Jerrell Freeman, Connor Harris, (Christian Jones)

ILB Nick Kwiatkoski, Danny Trevathan*, John Timu (Jonathan Anderson)

CB Logan Ryan, Cre'Von LeBlanc, Bryce Callahan, (Kyle Fuller)

CB Cordrea Tankersly, Tracy Porter, Deiondre' Hall, (Sherrick McManis, Jacoby Glenn)

S DJ Swearinger, Harold Jones-Quartey, (Demontre Hurst)

S Adrian Amos, Deon Bush, DeAndre Houston-Carson

 

K Kai Forbath

P Pat O'Donnell

LS Patrick Scales

 

*counting Trevanthan as PUP

[Guest]

i know it would be a stretch and especially coming off of injury, but should they move Kyle Long to LT with Grasu at C and Whitehair moving to RG? Or, possibly Whitehair moving to LT?

 

Yes, the injury concerns are there for Long, but isn't it more dangerous to play guard, as the possibilities of being rolled-up on are nearly two-fold at guard?

[WrigleyField 22]

i know it would be a stretch and especially coming off of injury, but should they move Kyle Long to LT with Grasu at C and Whitehair moving to RG? Or, possibly Whitehair moving to LT?

 

Yes, the injury concerns are there for Long, but isn't it more dangerous to play guard, as the possibilities of being rolled-up on are nearly two-fold at guard?

This presumes Grasu is definitely a better C than Leno is a LT (or Massie a RT if you want to go that route). If he comes in and forces that situation, I'm okay with it, but he has a lot to prove.

[David]

i could've sworn sulley was relatively high on leno which confuses me as to why he'd want to move long off the position he has been much better at (than RT - not even to speak of flipping him around and making him learn everything in the other direction too)

 

i mean yeah, he could possibly get better than he did last time, i guess, but he's not exactly a spring chicken anymore

[Guest]

i could've sworn sulley was relatively high on leno which confuses me as to why he'd want to move long off the position he has been much better at (than RT - not even to speak of flipping him around and making him learn everything in the other direction too)

 

i mean yeah, he could possibly get better than he did last time, i guess, but he's not exactly a spring chicken anymore

 

I view Leno as average, which is fine. The line can be pretty excellent with him at LT.

[davell]

I did the mock draft part of that site and wound up with.....

 

3) Edge- Myles Garrett

36) QB- Deshaun Watson

67) S- Justin Evans

109) TE- Jake Butt

115) CB- Cameron Sutton

148- WR Malachi Dupree

224- LB Ben Boulware

 

I'll take it and run.....

[WrigleyField 22]

I did the mock draft part of that site and wound up with.....

 

3) Edge- Myles Garrett

36) QB- Deshaun Watson

67) S- Justin Evans

109) TE- Jake Butt

115) CB- Cameron Sutton

148- WR Malachi Dupree

224- LB Ben Boulware

 

I'll take it and run.....

Ha, any time I get Garret I just do it over figuring its not realistic.

 

Would love Watson at 36, but I do think you'd have to trade up into late round 1 if he starts falling.