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Top 3 teams in the Bryce Harper Sweepstakes according to @kurkjian_ESPN

 

1. Phillies

2. Dodgers

3. White Sox

 

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5:54 PM - Dec 7, 2018

 

 

It would be bad enough losing out on Harper, but it would really be bad knowing we lost out on him to the White Sox.

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If he doesn't go to the Cubs the one place I'd most like to see him go is the white sox. Can't hurt the Cubs chances going there.

 

 

That's true, but hearing and seeing Bryce Harper and Eloy Jimenez all over the daily media would be frustrating, especially if the Cubs struggle.

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If he doesn't go to the Cubs the one place I'd most like to see him go is the white sox. Can't hurt the Cubs chances going there.

 

 

That's true, but hearing and seeing Bryce Harper and Eloy Jimenez all over the daily media would be frustrating, especially if the Cubs struggle.

Agreed. The Sox farm system is loaded. If Eloy becomes the stud he's projected to become, it'll be painful. I doubt Bryce signs with them though - the league is littered with can't miss prospects.

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If he doesn't go to the Cubs the one place I'd most like to see him go is the white sox. Can't hurt the Cubs chances going there.

 

 

That's true, but hearing and seeing Bryce Harper and Eloy Jimenez all over the daily media would be frustrating, especially if the Cubs struggle.

Agreed. The Sox farm system is loaded. If Eloy becomes the stud he's projected to become, it'll be painful. I doubt Bryce signs with them though - the league is littered with can't miss prospects.

 

I'm not so sure it really is. Eloy is the only potential star in the mix. Kopech and Cease are both more likely to end up pen arms then starters. Moncada is putting up Russell numbers without the defense and position.

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That's true, but hearing and seeing Bryce Harper and Eloy Jimenez all over the daily media would be frustrating, especially if the Cubs struggle.

Agreed. The Sox farm system is loaded. If Eloy becomes the stud he's projected to become, it'll be painful. I doubt Bryce signs with them though - the league is littered with can't miss prospects.

 

I'm not so sure it really is. Eloy is the only potential star in the mix. Kopech and Cease are both more likely to end up pen arms then starters. Moncada is putting up Russell numbers without the defense and position.

 

What about their other 4 prospects currently in the top 100? None of them are potential stars?

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Eloy is not going to be anything special

 

 

I have a hunch the overwhelming majority of Cub fans would love to trade Quintana for Jimenez & Cease.

 

As a trade chip I'd take him back, sure. As a big league player, he is a DH or a bad corner outfielder. He's going to have to hit at a very special level to be anything worth losing sleep over, and he probably won't walk enough, so that'll be even harder.

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Based on the sweaty, kinda desperate attempts here to claim otherwise, it's weird how the White Sox system keeps getting rated so highly, I guess.

 

NSBB sees through the smoke and mirrors; all of the farm systems are actually reversed! The Cubs' is actually top 5 instead of bottom 5!

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Eloy is not going to be anything special

 

 

I have a hunch the overwhelming majority of Cub fans would love to trade Quintana for Jimenez & Cease.

 

As a trade chip I'd take him back, sure.

 

That's pretty much why everyone here wants him back. That's a trade that badly, BADLY needs a do-over.

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Based on the sweaty, kinda desperate attempts here to claim otherwise, it's weird how the White Sox system keeps getting rated so highly, I guess.

 

NSBB sees through the smoke and mirrors; all of the farm systems are actually reversed! The Cubs' is actually top 5 instead of bottom 5!

 

 

:roll:

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Cubs are in mediocrity hell. Either sign Harper or tank.

 

A mediocre 95 wins last year...A mediocre 96 wins averaged over the last 4 years. BLOW IT ALL UP!

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Eloy is not going to be anything special

 

 

I have a hunch the overwhelming majority of Cub fans would love to trade Quintana for Jimenez & Cease.

 

As a trade chip I'd take him back, sure. As a big league player, he is a DH or a bad corner outfielder.

 

 

Sounds like my description of Schwarber two years ago.

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Based on the sweaty, kinda desperate attempts here to claim otherwise, it's weird how the White Sox system keeps getting rated so highly, I guess.

 

NSBB sees through the smoke and mirrors; all of the farm systems are actually reversed! The Cubs' is actually top 5 instead of bottom 5!

 

I’m reminded of similar comments on CardsTalk as the Cubs prospects were getting close to coming up. Of course those people are morons and we’re slightly less moronic

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I'm miserable during the season sometimes but I'm sure as horsefeathers not going to sit here and suck off the white sox for having a good farm system

 

Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.

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I have a hunch the overwhelming majority of Cub fans would love to trade Quintana for Jimenez & Cease.

 

As a trade chip I'd take him back, sure. As a big league player, he is a DH or a bad corner outfielder.

 

 

Sounds like my description of Schwarber two years ago.

Right, but we had Bryant and Rizzo as our star anchors of 5-8+ WAR guys. Schwarber turning in to a 2-3 (with a ~4 ceiling) WAR player doesn’t hurt us, we obviously want more but as our ~5th best position player it’s fine. The White Sox need Eloy to be that 6-8 WAR player because they don’t have it anywhere else and it’s nearly impossible to be that as a bat only DH/bad defensive Of and base runner type player. The ceiling on that guy is around 4 wins unless he hits like peak Bonds.

 

I do think he will hit though, but think he tops out at closer to 3 than 5 WAR and he isn’t going to be the superstar so many are anointing him as by default. He also doesn’t walk a ton and he’s had injury issues already.

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I'm miserable during the season sometimes but I'm sure as horsefeathers not going to sit here and suck off the white sox for having a good farm system

 

Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.

They have a nice system right now but there’s a lot of pitchers in it (one of which already blew out in Kopech) and I don’t see the Bryant type prospect that will anchor things to lead to a turn around. It seems like more depth and complimentary pieces than stars. Which is good to have, but they need stats to finish the turn around.

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I'm miserable during the season sometimes but I'm sure as horsefeathers not going to sit here and suck off the white sox for having a good farm system

 

Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.

They have a nice system right now but there’s a lot of pitchers in it (one of which already blew out in Kopech) and I don’t see the Bryant type prospect that will anchor things to lead to a turn around. It seems like more depth and complimentary pieces than stars. Which is good to have, but they need stats to finish the turn around.

 

Now how could they dramatically alleviate such a situation...

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Great, but it's pretty horsefeathering funny to watch people essentially flat out deny they have a good system right now. How many different ways can someone say, "no, no; it actually sucks despite (seemingly) literally every farm ranking" before they just sound crazy.

They have a nice system right now but there’s a lot of pitchers in it (one of which already blew out in Kopech) and I don’t see the Bryant type prospect that will anchor things to lead to a turn around. It seems like more depth and complimentary pieces than stars. Which is good to have, but they need stats to finish the turn around.

 

Now how could they dramatically alleviate such a situation...

Bryce absolutely helps. But they’re still going to have to way over pay him to come to sit around for a few years while everyone develops with no certainty of these prospects and them all like being more 2-3 win guys than anything else and my response was not about Bryce it was just regarding why the White Sox system is good but not great and lacks stars.

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