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I mean, I get Javy doesn't walk much, but it's not great that he hasn't drawn a walk since June 25, right?

 

 

happy now? I guess I look at production rather than hasn't taken a walk or hasn't hit a home run in so many days. His obp leaves something to be desired but he is generally productive.

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I mean, I get Javy doesn't walk much, but it's not great that he hasn't drawn a walk since June 25, right?

 

 

happy now? I guess I look at production rather than hasn't taken a walk or hasn't hit a home run in so many days. His obp leaves something to be desired but he is generally productive.

 

Everyone should be happy when Javy takes a walk. If he wants to be aggressive that’s fine, but he chases tons of pitches in full counts that he has no shot at.

 

Edit: he actually does decent as a hitter with a full count.

.267/.389/.622 but he still chases crazy pitches in that count.

 

Wanting his to take his free passes a little more isn’t a bad thing.

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Reporter: "Javy, Nick had some nice things to say about you. He mentioned playing with you in the 2012 Arizona Fall League. What do you recall about playing with him?"

Javy: "Who?"

Reporter: "Nick Castellanos....."

Javy: "Ohhhh, you mean number 6? The new guy?"

Reporter:

Javy: "You sure about that? Pretty sure it was me, maybe another guy from the Cubs farm and some pitchers."

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Baez will never be a patient hitter, and I’ve been convinced he really shouldn’t try to be (some hitters are just who they are and they should lean into that and not try to be what they aren’t), but he’s at least not getting himself out like he did when he came up.

 

It would be nice if he could pair his enormous power with some more walks, but I’ll take him as he is

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Baez will never be a patient hitter, and I’ve been convinced he really shouldn’t try to be (some hitters are just who they are and they should lean into that and not try to be what they aren’t), but he’s at least not getting himself out like he did when he came up.

 

It would be nice if he could pair his enormous power with some more walks, but I’ll take him as he is

 

I'll agree with this. The risk of making him change his approach may lead to a Starlin like downfall. Poor guy was never the same after they tried to get him to take more pitches and pull the ball more often.

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Baez will never be a patient hitter, and I’ve been convinced he really shouldn’t try to be (some hitters are just who they are and they should lean into that and not try to be what they aren’t), but he’s at least not getting himself out like he did when he came up.

 

It would be nice if he could pair his enormous power with some more walks, but I’ll take him as he is

 

I'll agree with this. The risk of making him change his approach may lead to a Starlin like downfall. Poor guy was never the same after they tried to get him to take more pitches and pull the ball more often.

Corey Patterson

 

MLB has a history of very good players who were not patient hitters. I think this is a case where Sabermetrics has made some things more complicated than they should be. Bobby Grich was undervalued because patience was not valued highly as his time. Jim Rice was probably over valued, but Jim Rice was still a very good hitter that added value to his team.

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Baez will never be a patient hitter, and I’ve been convinced he really shouldn’t try to be (some hitters are just who they are and they should lean into that and not try to be what they aren’t), but he’s at least not getting himself out like he did when he came up.

 

It would be nice if he could pair his enormous power with some more walks, but I’ll take him as he is

 

I'll agree with this. The risk of making him change his approach may lead to a Starlin like downfall. Poor guy was never the same after they tried to get him to take more pitches and pull the ball more often.

Corey Patterson

 

MLB has a history of very good players who were not patient hitters. I think this is a case where Sabermetrics has made some things more complicated than they should be. Bobby Grich was undervalued because patience was not valued highly as his time. Jim Rice was probably over valued, but Jim Rice was still a very good hitter that added value to his team.

 

I think its misunderstanding of sabermetrics or over-simplifying rather than complicating. Walks are great but it's really not making an out that is important. If you have a choice between a player with a .400 obp and a .390 batting average or a player with a .400 obp and a .290 batting average, you take the former. The only reason to care if Javy takes a walk or not is his lack of strike zone judgment is impacting his out percentage and slugging percentage. Hard to know if that is true or not - if he walked more often, would his obp go up substantially? What about his slugging percentage?

 

Calculated runs is actually very simple runs (per inning)=plate appearances-LOB-3 - you increase plate appearances by not making outs. You decrease LOB by hitting for power and baserunning.

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If you have a choice between a player with a .400 obp and a .390 batting average or a player with a .400 obp and a .290 batting average, you take the former. The only reason to care if Javy takes a walk or not is his lack of strike zone judgment is impacting his out percentage and slugging percentage.

Can you explain how the infield fly rule works to everyone here, too?

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If you have a choice between a player with a .400 obp and a .390 batting average or a player with a .400 obp and a .290 batting average, you take the former. The only reason to care if Javy takes a walk or not is his lack of strike zone judgment is impacting his out percentage and slugging percentage.

Can you explain how the infield fly rule works to everyone here, too?

 

 

the infield fly rule is idiotic and should be abolished. why do you get punished for grounding into a double play but you are protecting from hitting a weak pop-up? Stupid rule.

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If you have a choice between a player with a .400 obp and a .390 batting average or a player with a .400 obp and a .290 batting average, you take the former. The only reason to care if Javy takes a walk or not is his lack of strike zone judgment is impacting his out percentage and slugging percentage.

Can you explain how the infield fly rule works to everyone here, too?

 

 

the infield fly rule is idiotic and should be abolished. why do you get punished for grounding into a double play but you are protecting from hitting a weak pop-up? Stupid rule.

Heh, I kind of agree with you, but there are also triple play considerations...which depending on your outlook, are a reason against or for the IFR.

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Can you explain how the infield fly rule works to everyone here, too?

 

 

the infield fly rule is idiotic and should be abolished. why do you get punished for grounding into a double play but you are protecting from hitting a weak pop-up? Stupid rule.

Heh, I kind of agree with you, but there are also triple play considerations...which depending on your outlook, are a reason against or for the IFR.

 

I've discussed this with my friends for 4 minutes and it's become my number one demand for baseball rules. Also a triple play would be almost impossible.

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the infield fly rule is idiotic and should be abolished. why do you get punished for grounding into a double play but you are protecting from hitting a weak pop-up? Stupid rule.

Heh, I kind of agree with you, but there are also triple play considerations...which depending on your outlook, are a reason against or for the IFR.

 

I've discussed this with my friends for 4 minutes and it's become my number one demand for baseball rules. Also a triple play would be almost impossible.

 

yea, how would you turn it unless the batter doesn't run? in any case, there is no rule to protect teams from a ground ball triple play.

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Can you explain how the infield fly rule works to everyone here, too?

 

 

the infield fly rule is idiotic and should be abolished. why do you get punished for grounding into a double play but you are protecting from hitting a weak pop-up? Stupid rule.

Heh, I kind of agree with you, but there are also triple play considerations...which depending on your outlook, are a reason against or for the IFR.

 

generally, the fewer rules and judges needed, the better a sport is to watch and play in my opinion. sports where judges have to decide who wins are not interesting to me.

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the infield fly rule is idiotic and should be abolished. why do you get punished for grounding into a double play but you are protecting from hitting a weak pop-up? Stupid rule.

Heh, I kind of agree with you, but there are also triple play considerations...which depending on your outlook, are a reason against or for the IFR.

 

generally, the fewer rules and judges needed, the better a sport is to watch and play in my opinion. sports where judges have to decide who wins are not interesting to me.

I mean, literally every pitch of every baseball game that is not hit is interpreted by a judge.

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the infield fly rule is idiotic and should be abolished. why do you get punished for grounding into a double play but you are protecting from hitting a weak pop-up? Stupid rule.

Heh, I kind of agree with you, but there are also triple play considerations...which depending on your outlook, are a reason against or for the IFR.

 

I've discussed this with my friends for 4 minutes and it's become my number one demand for baseball rules. Also a triple play would be almost impossible.

Hmm, now that I think about it, with bases loaded no outs, if the guy on 2nd runs and gets next to 3rd, and everyone else stays put, you are spreading out your risk as well as you can and limit yourself to JUST a double play. I might be on team repeal-IFR for the sole reason its another reason to keep Addi off the team. No way he plays those situations correctly, either on the basepaths or in the field.

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Is it just me or does Addi drive others nuts too. I want it to be Addy if it's shortened. Ideally he's rocketed into the sun so we never have to post his name but in the meantime...
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Is it just me or does Addi drive others nuts too. I want it to be Addy if it's shortened. Ideally he's rocketed into the sun so we never have to post his name but in the meantime...

Regardless of the person I cannot stand either variation of the shortened name.

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Is it just me or does Addi drive others nuts too. I want it to be Addy if it's shortened. Ideally he's rocketed into the sun so we never have to post his name but in the meantime...

Regardless of the person I cannot stand either variation of the shortened name.

 

"Javi" is the only one of those types of nicknames that I don't mind, and even that bugs me a bit (though at least it's an actual damn name) because of the context when a dunce like Maddon (or any of the other managers who have done it) says it. It sounds like someone talking about a 5-year-old. Like, get out of here with that "Stropy" horsefeathers.

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Heh, I kind of agree with you, but there are also triple play considerations...which depending on your outlook, are a reason against or for the IFR.

 

generally, the fewer rules and judges needed, the better a sport is to watch and play in my opinion. sports where judges have to decide who wins are not interesting to me.

I mean, literally every pitch of every baseball game that is not hit is interpreted by a judge.

 

 

figuratively too. at least there is a defined boundary as opposed to say figure skating. ie I can see if a pitch is a strike or not.

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