4/20 CUBS (Hendricks) @ cards (Martinez) 12:45 CSN/MLBN

[BigSlick]

alright Rat Boy get a run in

[UMFan83]

dammit it seems like at least 2 of our 2-5 hitters are slumping at any given moment which kills any big innings.

[David]

if you get a hit i will take back everything bad i ever said, rat boy

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Im curious what is causing Heywards somewhat significant power outage.

 

He was able to hit 18 homers as a friggin 20 year old.. hit 27 bombs at age 22... then hit 14 in only 100 games at age 23..

 

Comes back with a combined 24 homers in his age 24 & 25 seasons right when you think he would be increasing his power numbers.

 

he changed his swing/approach

 

Correct. Dude struck out a lot to get to those 27 homers and his OBP was nowhere near where it has been since he changed.

[David]

Seriously, Martinez could not throw three straight strikes. Take your base.

 

I never want Kris Bryant not having a 3-0 green light

[Omar]

la stella to save the day

[Gmoney08]

Im curious what is causing Heywards somewhat significant power outage.

 

He was able to hit 18 homers as a friggin 20 year old.. hit 27 bombs at age 22... then hit 14 in only 100 games at age 23..

 

Comes back with a combined 24 homers in his age 24 & 25 seasons right when you think he would be increasing his power numbers.

 

he changed his swing/approach

 

Is there any articles on this or info shedding light on this? His OBP hasn't changed too drastically.

 

22 year old Heyward looked like a monster especially when taking into count his glove.

[BigSlick]

if you get a hit i will take back everything bad i ever said, rat boy

i'm glad i can keep hating on him at least

[sneakypower]

he should thank him because he would have gotten an entirely different pitch under entirely different conditions at an entirely different time and probably would not have a HR right now

 

i know this movie is fairly well-ranted but i actually enjoyed it

it's right in the Final Destination realm of bad movies it's perfectly acceptable to like

[UMFan83]

Seriously, Martinez could not throw three straight strikes. Take your base.

 

I never want Kris Bryant not having a 3-0 green light

 

Road Bryant tho

[Bryants Disco Ball]

Seriously, Martinez could not throw three straight strikes. Take your base.

 

I never want Kris Bryant not having a 3-0 green light

 

I hear ya, but down three I'd rather just have two guys on and give up the chance that he hits a dong or a double.

[Gmoney08]

Im curious what is causing Heywards somewhat significant power outage.

 

He was able to hit 18 homers as a friggin 20 year old.. hit 27 bombs at age 22... then hit 14 in only 100 games at age 23..

 

Comes back with a combined 24 homers in his age 24 & 25 seasons right when you think he would be increasing his power numbers.

 

he changed his swing/approach

 

Correct. Dude struck out a lot to get to those 27 homers and his OBP was nowhere near where it has been since he changed.

 

He hit 14 homers the next year in 100 games with a .349 OBP.

 

The next two years his OBP was .351 and .359.

 

Even in the 27 HR season his OBP was .335 & his OPS was a decent amount higher than his less powerful/higher obp seasons of the last 2 years.

[UMFan83]

Im curious what is causing Heywards somewhat significant power outage.

 

He was able to hit 18 homers as a friggin 20 year old.. hit 27 bombs at age 22... then hit 14 in only 100 games at age 23..

 

Comes back with a combined 24 homers in his age 24 & 25 seasons right when you think he would be increasing his power numbers.

 

he changed his swing/approach

 

Is there any articles on this or info shedding light on this? His OBP hasn't changed too drastically.

 

22 year old Heyward looked like a monster especially when taking into count his glove.

 

He accumulated 9.1 offensive wins in the 3 seasons up to and including the 27 HR season.

He's accumulated 8.4 offensive wins in the 3 full seasons since then. But his 3.8 wins last year is the 2nd best of his career after his rookie season.

 

I realize that's just one metric to compare.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

That ball drops, Heyward's didn't

 

pretty emblematic of the way the game has gone

[David]

 

he changed his swing/approach

 

Correct. Dude struck out a lot to get to those 27 homers and his OBP was nowhere near where it has been since he changed.

 

He hit 14 homers the next year in 100 games with a .349 OBP.

 

The next two years his OBP was .351 and .359.

 

Even in the 27 HR season his OBP was .335 & his OPS was a decent amount higher than his less powerful/higher obp seasons of the last 2 years.

 

note the drastic reduction in K rate. I never said it was a good or necessary adjustment, but he's clearly a different type of hitter.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

 

Correct. Dude struck out a lot to get to those 27 homers and his OBP was nowhere near where it has been since he changed.

 

He hit 14 homers the next year in 100 games with a .349 OBP.

 

The next two years his OBP was .351 and .359.

 

Even in the 27 HR season his OBP was .335 & his OPS was a decent amount higher than his less powerful/higher obp seasons of the last 2 years.

 

note the drastic reduction in K rate. I never said it was a good or necessary adjustment, but he's clearly a different type of hitter.

 

Correct again.

 

In his first three seasons he struck out like 373 times. In the next three his power went down and he combined to strike out more than 100 fewer times.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Bryant's Disco Ball

[BigSlick]

Credit to Hendricks, he got knocked around a bit early but he settled down and kept the Cubs competitive in the game.

[Bryants Disco Ball]

I hate trying to edit something but then posting it again. horsefeathers me. Edited April 20, 2016 by Bryant's Disco Ball

[CubInOK]

provel is worse than 7-11 nacho cheese. Let's not lose to these provel eaters.

[David]

apparently, cubs fans wearing the "try not to suck" shirts have been getting turned away at busch

 

http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-cubs/try-not-suck-joe-maddon-getting-cardinals-heads

[ScrubMD]

But the streak!

[Gmoney08]

 

he changed his swing/approach

 

Is there any articles on this or info shedding light on this? His OBP hasn't changed too drastically.

 

22 year old Heyward looked like a monster especially when taking into count his glove.

 

He accumulated 9.1 offensive wins in the 3 seasons up to and including the 27 HR season.

He's accumulated 8.4 offensive wins in the 3 full seasons since then. But his 3.8 wins last year is the 2nd best of his career after his rookie season.

 

I realize that's just one metric to compare.

 

Do offensive wins take into account baserunning as well? Looks like his age 22 season was a little bit better than last year with the bat but his 8 caught stealing for 21 steals might hurt his baserunning runs compared to 23/26 on SB's last year.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

Im curious what is causing Heywards somewhat significant power outage.

 

He was able to hit 18 homers as a friggin 20 year old.. hit 27 bombs at age 22... then hit 14 in only 100 games at age 23..

 

Comes back with a combined 24 homers in his age 24 & 25 seasons right when you think he would be increasing his power numbers.

 

he changed his swing/approach

 

Is there any articles on this or info shedding light on this? His OBP hasn't changed too drastically.

 

22 year old Heyward looked like a monster especially when taking into count his glove.

 

His K% went down from 23.3% in 2012 to 14.8% last year. Not coincidentally, his OBP went up from .335 in 2012 to .359 last year. And despite those 27 homers, his wRC+ was 121 in both 2012 and last year. He traded pop for contact, and, as a result, he still provides about the same all-around value offensively.

Edited April 20, 2016 by Duke Silver

[Banedon]

But the streak!

 

Now it's 5 innings.

[Gmoney08]

 

He hit 14 homers the next year in 100 games with a .349 OBP.

 

The next two years his OBP was .351 and .359.

 

Even in the 27 HR season his OBP was .335 & his OPS was a decent amount higher than his less powerful/higher obp seasons of the last 2 years.

 

note the drastic reduction in K rate. I never said it was a good or necessary adjustment, but he's clearly a different type of hitter.

 

Correct again.

 

In his first three seasons he struck out like 373 times. In the next three his power went down and he combined to strike out more than 100 fewer times.

 

I like both versions of Heyward but wouldn't you rather have the higher K, higher power Heyward since he was still getting On Base at a pretty good cilp even with the K's?

 

Also considering those were his 20-22 seasons some reduction in his K's may be attributed just to getting a bit closer to his prime & acclimated to the league.