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Really?

 

You want to come back with that organization and that team? Cubs would be a great team for him if we didn't have horsefeathers owners...

 

Dude got wasted drunk and pulled a gun on a female food delivery driver when she arrived at his house. I'm not going to lose sleep over not adding that kind of person to the organization.

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Really?

 

You want to come back with that organization and that team? Cubs would be a great team for him if we didn't have horsefeathers owners...

 

Dude got wasted drunk and pulled a gun on a female food delivery driver when she arrived at his house. I'm not going to lose sleep over not adding that kind of person to the organization.

 

And is he even good at baseball??

 

The guys 29, not old but not young. What baseball reason is there to have him in the org? Seems like just a guy.

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Really?

 

You want to come back with that organization and that team? Cubs would be a great team for him if we didn't have horsefeathers owners...

 

Dude got wasted drunk and pulled a gun on a female food delivery driver when she arrived at his house. I'm not going to lose sleep over not adding that kind of person to the organization.

 

There is more to the story than you are making it seem. I don't really know much about Maxwell other than what I read in an ESPN story a couple weeks ago, but 1) getting wasted drunk doesn't make someone a bad person and 2) he was in a really dark place where he thought he needed to be armed because of receiving death threats, and 3) they dropped the charges related to pointing the gun at the girl because they agreed with him (a raging black man!) that he didn't do it. That story makes him a tragic figure not a bad person. In my opinion.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29414410/the-exile-oakland-bruce-maxwell-birth-mlb-black-player-movement

 

On the afternoon of Oct. 28, 2017, at his home in Scottsdale, Arizona, Maxwell got drunk, ordered takeout and fell asleep. Startled by the doorbell, he took out the SIG Sauer 9 mm handgun he kept slung in the elastic of his waistband and answered the door. The young woman, 25-year-old Lindsay Ashworth, later told police she saw an unsteady Maxwell in the doorway before he pointed the silver handgun toward her face. Maxwell says he never pointed his gun at Ashworth. He paid for the food. She went to her car and called 911. Fifteen minutes later, Maxwell was surrounded by 10 members of the Scottsdale police. According to case No. 17-23914, he was arrested on one count of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a felony, and a second count of disorderly conduct with a dangerous weapon, a misdemeanor.

 

Scottsdale police body cameras filmed portions of the scene. In video footage acquired by TMZ, Maxwell can be seen sitting on an electric generator unit, shirtless and barefoot, wearing just a pair of shorts. He is handcuffed, raging at police. He echoes Kaepernick's 2016 line of police killing Black citizens and receiving paid vacations. He references Philando Castile, who in 2016 was fatally shot by a police officer during a traffic stop in suburban St. Paul, Minnesota. Castile, who was licensed to carry, had told the officer he had a firearm. In the Maxwell video, he is seen lecturing officers as if reading the counts of an indictment. One officer tells Maxwell he doesn't want him to be afraid of police. "Guess what," Maxwell responds. "Half of America is already afraid of you motherf---ers." The footage lasts three minutes, 22 seconds. Nearing its end, Maxwell can be seen handcuffed in the back of a patrol car. His voice has broken, shattered by rage and tears. He is crying. He appears to be having a complete breakdown. "F--- baseball. F--- the MLB. I'm fighting for our f---ing country." He has just been added to the list, a Black man at the top of his profession and still the one in handcuffs. He is paying the Black Tax.

 

The chain of events that followed his kneeling altered his life. Forst and Beane told Maxwell they supported him. The state dropped the felony charge when it agreed with Maxwell that he did not point his gun at Ashworth, as the police report originally alleged. "The only charge I have was disorderly conduct. Being belligerent and talking loud to the cops," Maxwell says. "That's it."

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Really?

 

You want to come back with that organization and that team? Cubs would be a great team for him if we didn't have horsefeathers owners...

 

Dude got wasted drunk and pulled a gun on a female food delivery driver when she arrived at his house. I'm not going to lose sleep over not adding that kind of person to the organization.

 

There is more to the story than you are making it seem. I don't really know much about Maxwell other than what I read in an ESPN story a couple weeks ago, but 1) getting wasted drunk doesn't make someone a bad person and 2) he was in a really dark place where he thought he needed to be armed because of receiving death threats, and 3) they dropped the charges related to pointing the gun at the girl because they agreed with him (a raging black man!) that he didn't do it. That story makes him a tragic figure not a bad person. In my opinion.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29414410/the-exile-oakland-bruce-maxwell-birth-mlb-black-player-movement

 

On the afternoon of Oct. 28, 2017, at his home in Scottsdale, Arizona, Maxwell got drunk, ordered takeout and fell asleep. Startled by the doorbell, he took out the SIG Sauer 9 mm handgun he kept slung in the elastic of his waistband and answered the door. The young woman, 25-year-old Lindsay Ashworth, later told police she saw an unsteady Maxwell in the doorway before he pointed the silver handgun toward her face. Maxwell says he never pointed his gun at Ashworth. He paid for the food. She went to her car and called 911. Fifteen minutes later, Maxwell was surrounded by 10 members of the Scottsdale police. According to case No. 17-23914, he was arrested on one count of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, a felony, and a second count of disorderly conduct with a dangerous weapon, a misdemeanor.

 

Scottsdale police body cameras filmed portions of the scene. In video footage acquired by TMZ, Maxwell can be seen sitting on an electric generator unit, shirtless and barefoot, wearing just a pair of shorts. He is handcuffed, raging at police. He echoes Kaepernick's 2016 line of police killing Black citizens and receiving paid vacations. He references Philando Castile, who in 2016 was fatally shot by a police officer during a traffic stop in suburban St. Paul, Minnesota. Castile, who was licensed to carry, had told the officer he had a firearm. In the Maxwell video, he is seen lecturing officers as if reading the counts of an indictment. One officer tells Maxwell he doesn't want him to be afraid of police. "Guess what," Maxwell responds. "Half of America is already afraid of you motherf---ers." The footage lasts three minutes, 22 seconds. Nearing its end, Maxwell can be seen handcuffed in the back of a patrol car. His voice has broken, shattered by rage and tears. He is crying. He appears to be having a complete breakdown. "F--- baseball. F--- the MLB. I'm fighting for our f---ing country." He has just been added to the list, a Black man at the top of his profession and still the one in handcuffs. He is paying the Black Tax.

 

The chain of events that followed his kneeling altered his life. Forst and Beane told Maxwell they supported him. The state dropped the felony charge when it agreed with Maxwell that he did not point his gun at Ashworth, as the police report originally alleged. "The only charge I have was disorderly conduct. Being belligerent and talking loud to the cops," Maxwell says. "That's it."

 

1. That article is incorrect. He took a plea deal where he pled guilty to a disorderly conduct charge in exchange for the State dropping the agg assault charge. This is extremely routine in a he-said, she-said situation like this one. The State didn't agree with him, but rather the prosecutor knew he/she couldnt' get a conviction. In fact, a quick search shows that the prosecutor actually argued at sentencing that he pointed a loaded gun at the victim and that he should have supervised probation, instead of unsupervised. The sentencing Judge also told him how lucky he was that he got off so light.

 

2. You are 100% correct that getting drunk doesn't make you a bad person. But why the hell are you going to get wasted with firearms right there? He's lucky as hell that he didn't shoot that woman.

 

3. I feel bad for him if he was indeed suffering from some mental health stuff, but that again gives pause as to why he was self-medicating with alcohol and handling firearms. At best, he was being really stupid. At worst, he was being negligent and put others at risk.

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It's obviously a complicated situation with Bruce Maxwell...

 

I don't know exactly what happened that night he got arrested, but he was dealing with stuff and clearly having a breakdown. I'm not excusing his behavior that night but that was totally out of character for him. He isn't Aroldis Chapman and he definitely received death threats.

 

I'm willing to give someone like him a second chance. He seems like a good guy, introspective and he cares about social justice and raising awareness among MLB players. You would have to interview him and figure out what happened and where he is in his life. Billy Beane has vouched for him and was willing to give him another chance.

 

I normally would avoid signing a player like this, and from a pure baseball-perspective he isn't that great. He isn't Josh Hamilton... Still, I think it sends an important message to African-American players and fans when you're willing to sign someone like him.

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Did that really come from Kelly? If so, it seems really...creepy to photoshop Astro players' faces over the faces of your own kids. Generally, I'm on his side of the argument, but this seems a little kooky.
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Did that really come from Kelly? If so, it seems really...creepy to photoshop Astro players' faces over the faces of your own kids. Generally, I'm on his side of the argument, but this seems a little kooky.

 

it's a parody account.

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I completely forgot Dusty Baker was managing the Astros, lol. I think a few seasons with Baker should be enough penance. Edited by CubinNY
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Today I realized Carl Yastrzemski is 80 years old. I remember watching him play when I was a kid. I feel older knowing this than the fact that my youngest child is right now out looking at a house to buy.

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