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With the report of the Nationals offer to Rendon with, surprise surprise, quite a bit of deferred money. I went looking around cots at what deferred money they have out there. The craziest thing to me is that Scherzer is not making any actual salary this season or the next two... of course he's going to be fine and will still get $15 million each of those years out of his signing bonus.

 

Pretty much the entire '20s the Nationals are going to have their own more expensive but yet not as insane Bobby Bonilla day.

 

July 1

 

'22 - 15 million to Scherzer

'23 - 15 million to Scherzer

'24 - 25 million to Scherzer & Strasburg

'25 - 25 million to Scherzer & Strasburg

'26 - 25 million to Scherzer & Strasburg

'27 - 25 million to Scherzer & Strasburg

'28 - 25 million to Scherzer & Strasburg

'29 - 10 million to Strasburg

'30 - 10 million to Strasburg

 

They got some other ones hanging out there: they paid Daniel Murphy 2.5 million last January and will pay another 3 this coming January. 2 of Dozier's 9 million dollar 2019 salary will be paid in January 2020. Corbin will be paid 10 million between November '24 and January '26. They owe Matt Wieters 5 million in 2021. There's probably more out there I didn't even see.

 

Yeah, they tend to go heavy on the deferred route. There's also some small deferrals on Anibal Sanchez. It's risky and only works if you have a farm system to replenish the depths.

 

While I was definitely in the "they need to resign Bryce" group, and they made a decent, albeit, deferred effort ... things worked out well for them. This was supposed to be a bridge year of sorts - see if Dave Martinez can manage, see if Soto/Robles are ready). Now, I guess I'll be foolish again and say they need to resign Rendon, but that's because unlike Bryce last year, they really don't have, on paper, a replacement lined up for Rendon, either a young bat with middle-of-the-order offensive potential and/or a 3rd baseman. I guess they could consider Carter Kieboom at 3rd, and if Rendon leaves, maybe that's an option.

 

If Rendon returns, though, they look like they can keep this run up for several more years. Robles is excellent defensively, and should improve offensively. If Rendon returns, then Carter Kieboom might slide in at 2nd. The system isn't bad. It's just not top heavy anymore, but there's some close-to-ready arms (Will Crowe, Sterling Sharpe ... maybe Matt Cronin in the pen) and with Kieboom, a close to ready potential positional starter. Drew Mendoza may be in line to be the first baseman of the future ... but that probably isn't until 2021. The exciting thing is the upside in the lower levels - with Yasel Antuna, Israel Pineda, and especially, Jeremy de la Rosa, they have three huge upside positional assets. I guess Luis Garcia is a big upside guy who was pushed fast, enough so that I'm not sure what to think of him. On the pitching side, they turned an electric, but inconsistent, arm into a decent starter this year (Joan Adon ... still think he's pen material long run, but obviously, get him work as a starter). Andry Lara has huge potential, as with recent picks Jackson Ruteledge and Mason Denaburg. I don't know what to think of Tim Cate ... could be a fast mover ... best comparison would be young Rich Hill maybe. Of course, there's Seth Romero floating around in the return from TJ category.

 

Many of them will flame out, but considering their recent developmental history, some of those low level upside guys are going to be fascinating follows, particularly when de la Rosa has been loosely comped to Juan Soto in terms of readiness. In short, there's enough to fill in the gaps and deal with all the deferred money, and enough to look forward to, which is all you can really ask for out of an organization in the midst of their run now and having graduated quality guys recently.

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From MLBTR:

 

Nori Aoki is likely settled back in his native land after wrapping up a generally successful big league tenure. But it’s worth noting that he’s still a capable performer at 37 years of age, having just slashed .297/.385/.442 in 565 plate appearances for the Swallows.

Kosuke Fukudome had a similar career arc to that of Aoki, but his production slipped to .256/.347/.397 this season — his age-42 campaign and seventh with the Hanshin Tigers since returning to Japan.

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Prior is the new Dodger pitching coach. Honeycutt is being reassigned to a special assistant role.

 

This is most likely the best October 14th of Mark's life.

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Yes, an influx of cheap, farm-grown talent will lower your payroll. That curve is about to start rocketing up again, though, so let’s not pay ourselves on the back too much, LA

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Nevermind the fact that all the superstar and high-value players on that roster... Kershaw, Buehler, Ryu, Jansen, Bellinger, Seager, Turner, Pederson. They were all drafted, traded for, or signed before he got there. The best acquisition Friedman has made has probably been Max Muncy and the best FA signing with the best return on investment has probably been Brandon Morrow. His highest-profile trades were for 2-month rentals of Yu Darvish and Manny Machado. He let Zack Greinke walk and traded Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields and has spent most of his FA money on retaining the talent they already had before he got there and securing their rights well past ther prime years.

 

You can say that guys like Bellinger and Buehler thrived in a development environment that Friedman had put in place, but the Dodgers were never short on young talent coming up through the ranks and those were higher profile draft picks.

 

Friedman is good at keeping costs down and drafting and developing talent, and that's great that the Dodgers are doing a bang-up job in that department, but Friedman makes garbage outside acquisitions and big money decisions.

 

He Dusty'd his way into a juggernaut of a team. The next 5 years will determine how good Friedman really is vs. the past 5 years when he's relied on the talents of players that were brought into the organization by Ned Colletti, who got fired after back to back 1st place finishes resulted in NL playoff losses. Meanwhile, Friedman's teams have finished first every year of his tenure and lost 3 NL playoff series and back-to-back world series. That means the Dodgers have finished first for 7 years in a row and have nothing to show for it and 5 of those years were at Friedman's helm.

 

But he's a genius or something.

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Nevermind the fact that all the superstar and high-value players on that roster... Kershaw, Buehler, Ryu, Jansen, Bellinger, Seager, Turner, Pederson. They were all drafted, traded for, or signed before he got there. The best acquisition Friedman has made has probably been Max Muncy and the best FA signing with the best return on investment has probably been Brandon Morrow. His highest-profile trades were for 2-month rentals of Yu Darvish and Manny Machado. He let Zack Greinke walk and traded Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields and has spent most of his FA money on retaining the talent they already had before he got there and securing their rights well past ther prime years.

 

You can say that guys like Bellinger and Buehler thrived in a development environment that Friedman had put in place, but the Dodgers were never short on young talent coming up through the ranks and those were higher profile draft picks.

 

Friedman is good at keeping costs down and drafting and developing talent, and that's great that the Dodgers are doing a bang-up job in that department, but Friedman makes garbage outside acquisitions and big money decisions.

 

He Dusty'd his way into a juggernaut of a team. The next 5 years will determine how good Friedman really is vs. the past 5 years when he's relied on the talents of players that were brought into the organization by Ned Colletti, who got fired after back to back 1st place finishes resulted in NL playoff losses. Meanwhile, Friedman's teams have finished first every year of his tenure and lost 3 NL playoff series and back-to-back world series. That means the Dodgers have finished first for 7 years in a row and have nothing to show for it and 5 of those years were at Friedman's helm.

 

But he's a genius or something.

 

This reads a bit like the Cards fans who claim Theo isn't very good because the Cubs have a higher payroll than most teams. Yes, Friedman inherited a very talented organization, and yes he has a blind spot when it comes to paying for free agents, but he's still averaged 97 wins per year for a half decade. If it were that easy every wealthy team would do it.

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Nevermind the fact that all the superstar and high-value players on that roster... Kershaw, Buehler, Ryu, Jansen, Bellinger, Seager, Turner, Pederson. They were all drafted, traded for, or signed before he got there. The best acquisition Friedman has made has probably been Max Muncy and the best FA signing with the best return on investment has probably been Brandon Morrow. His highest-profile trades were for 2-month rentals of Yu Darvish and Manny Machado. He let Zack Greinke walk and traded Yordan Alvarez for Josh Fields and has spent most of his FA money on retaining the talent they already had before he got there and securing their rights well past ther prime years.

 

You can say that guys like Bellinger and Buehler thrived in a development environment that Friedman had put in place, but the Dodgers were never short on young talent coming up through the ranks and those were higher profile draft picks.

 

Friedman is good at keeping costs down and drafting and developing talent, and that's great that the Dodgers are doing a bang-up job in that department, but Friedman makes garbage outside acquisitions and big money decisions.

 

He Dusty'd his way into a juggernaut of a team. The next 5 years will determine how good Friedman really is vs. the past 5 years when he's relied on the talents of players that were brought into the organization by Ned Colletti, who got fired after back to back 1st place finishes resulted in NL playoff losses. Meanwhile, Friedman's teams have finished first every year of his tenure and lost 3 NL playoff series and back-to-back world series. That means the Dodgers have finished first for 7 years in a row and have nothing to show for it and 5 of those years were at Friedman's helm.

 

But he's a genius or something.

 

To be fair, Buehler was his first draft pick and followed that up with Will Smith in 2016. As for shrewd signings, I'd also add Chris Taylor and Kenta Maeda in addition to Morrow. And he somehow extracted Yasmani Grandal for Matt Kemp. The player development has is a clear separator, which you noted.

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