College Football - Championship Week (Dec. 6)

[Ryne Ween]

I hate the playoff committee.

[Ryne Ween]

They are ruining everything.

[shnsajax]

What did you want?

[OleMissCub]

What did you want?

 

Attention

[shnsajax]

What did you want?

 

Attention

 

=D>

 

Either way if it stays this way we will have some very fun semi-final matchups.

[Ryne Ween]

I want justice.

[UMFan83]

There's no way that an undefeated FSU could possibly drop out of the top 4 with an ugly win vs GT right?

 

Beating GT is probably better win than Wisconsin and Kansas State right?

 

I applaud the committee for not just automatically placing the only Power 5 undefeated team at 1 though.

[Guest]

There's no way that an undefeated FSU could possibly drop out of the top 4 with an ugly win vs GT right?

 

Beating GT is probably better win than Wisconsin and Kansas State right?

 

I applaud the committee for not just automatically placing the only Power 5 undefeated team at 1 though.

 

They'd probably jump TCU. A win over Iowa St. isn't going to help their resume at all. I still think Bama, Oregon, FSU and Baylor are in with wins, OSU needs one of the first three to lose (Baylor losing doesn't help them) and TCU either needs Baylor to go down or two of the other four.

[SouthSideRyan]

There's no way that an undefeated FSU could possibly drop out of the top 4 with an ugly win vs GT right?

 

Beating GT is probably better win than Wisconsin and Kansas State right?

 

I applaud the committee for not just automatically placing the only Power 5 undefeated team at 1 though.

 

Georgia Tech would be their best win of the season. All it means is FSU will absolutely not make it with 1 loss no matter what happens

[SouthSideRyan]

There's no way that an undefeated FSU could possibly drop out of the top 4 with an ugly win vs GT right?

 

Beating GT is probably better win than Wisconsin and Kansas State right?

 

I applaud the committee for not just automatically placing the only Power 5 undefeated team at 1 though.

 

They'd probably jump TCU. A win over Iowa St. isn't going to help their resume at all. I still think Bama, Oregon, FSU and Baylor are in with wins, OSU needs one of the first three to lose (Baylor losing doesn't help them) and TCU either needs Baylor to go down or two of the other four.

 

I have a hard time seeing 1 loss Baylor jumping 1 loss OSU

[snoodmonger]

There's no way that an undefeated FSU could possibly drop out of the top 4 with an ugly win vs GT right?

 

Beating GT is probably better win than Wisconsin and Kansas State right?

 

I applaud the committee for not just automatically placing the only Power 5 undefeated team at 1 though.

 

Is it better than beating KSU?

 

GT has one more impressive win (They beat Clemson and Georgia; after OU, KSU's best win is WVU or UT).

 

KSU's two losses came to better teams (Auburn and TCU vs. Duke and UNC.)

 

I think they're fairly even, imo.

[snoodmonger]

There's no way that an undefeated FSU could possibly drop out of the top 4 with an ugly win vs GT right?

 

Beating GT is probably better win than Wisconsin and Kansas State right?

 

I applaud the committee for not just automatically placing the only Power 5 undefeated team at 1 though.

 

They'd probably jump TCU. A win over Iowa St. isn't going to help their resume at all. I still think Bama, Oregon, FSU and Baylor are in with wins, OSU needs one of the first three to lose (Baylor losing doesn't help them) and TCU either needs Baylor to go down or two of the other four.

 

I have a hard time seeing 1 loss Baylor jumping 1 loss OSU

 

They should. Baylor's marquee wins will be more impressive (TCU, OU, KSU vs. MSU, Wisconsin, Minnesota).

 

Their loss at WVU is a better loss than at home vs V Tech.

 

Also, tOSU's QB is dead or whatever.

[Guest]

There's no way that an undefeated FSU could possibly drop out of the top 4 with an ugly win vs GT right?

 

Beating GT is probably better win than Wisconsin and Kansas State right?

 

I applaud the committee for not just automatically placing the only Power 5 undefeated team at 1 though.

 

They'd probably jump TCU. A win over Iowa St. isn't going to help their resume at all. I still think Bama, Oregon, FSU and Baylor are in with wins, OSU needs one of the first three to lose (Baylor losing doesn't help them) and TCU either needs Baylor to go down or two of the other four.

 

I have a hard time seeing 1 loss Baylor jumping 1 loss OSU

 

Baylor would have more wins over better ranked teams (TCU over MSU, KSt over Wisconsin and Oklahoma) as well as a slightly better loss (at 7-5 WVU vs home to 6-6 Va Tech).

[SouthSideRyan]

OSU is above Baylor right now, and Wisconsin on a neutral field shouldn't be viewed as a worse win than KSU @ home.

 

ETA: OSU's dead QB is a point in their favor if they win with a guy in his first game as QB

[sneakypower]

Cardale Jones should be good, he ain't go to OSU to play school

[Smack]

Cardale Jones should be good, he ain't go to OSU to play school

 

that tweet is already out there but oh god if he fails miserably it's going to blow up and be glorious

[OleMissCub]

Video of the UAB team being told that they are being disbanded. Rough to watch. Put tears in my eyes.

 

https://www.youtube.com/embed/eAvSuQEh6lI

[Guest]

OSU is above Baylor right now, and Wisconsin on a neutral field shouldn't be viewed as a worse win than KSU @ home.

 

ETA: OSU's dead QB is a point in their favor if they win with a guy in his first game as QB

 

If Baylor wins, I don't see a huge difference between the resumes of Baylor and TCU and the committee thinks TCU is two spots better than OSU. I do think Baylor should be ahead of OSU right now though also.

 

I think this will be irrelevant on Sunday due to one or more of these teams going down.

[apete6]

Obviously if they switched the playoff, they would go to 8, award auto bids for the 5 and give 3 at large, but if it were a 6 team playoff to award byes, it would have worked out perfectly this year (pending disaster for someone on Saturday).

 

Alabama & Oregon bye.

 

TCU vs. Baylor, FSU vs. OSU

 

That would be fun.

 

The more you look at it, though, I'm still OK with 4 at the current time. Are we REALLY going to start rewarding teams that lose twice? 1 loss is possible (bad day, tough schedule, etc..), 2 is kind of your own fault. If you know this going in, maybe don't schedule little sisters of the poor in the non-conference. I wonder historically how many big 5 programs had 1 loss or fewer after the conference championship weekend? I would guess somewhere between 3 and 6?

[SouthSideRyan]

OSU is above Baylor right now, and Wisconsin on a neutral field shouldn't be viewed as a worse win than KSU @ home.

 

ETA: OSU's dead QB is a point in their favor if they win with a guy in his first game as QB

 

If Baylor wins, I don't see a huge difference between the resumes of Baylor and TCU and the committee thinks TCU is two spots better than OSU. I do think Baylor should be ahead of OSU right now though also.

 

I think this will be irrelevant on Sunday due to one or more of these teams going down.

 

Eh, much worse loss (WVA rather than [to be fair], Baylor) and Baylor played nobody non-con, TCU beat Minnesota rather easily.

 

But I agree with you, I think GA Tech and KSU win and make it academic.

[Andy]

Obviously if they switched the playoff, they would go to 8, award auto bids for the 5 and give 3 at large, but if it were a 6 team playoff to award byes, it would have worked out perfectly this year (pending disaster for someone on Saturday).

 

Alabama & Oregon bye.

 

TCU vs. Baylor, FSU vs. OSU

 

That would be fun.

 

The more you look at it, though, I'm still OK with 4 at the current time. Are we REALLY going to start rewarding teams that lose twice? 1 loss is possible (bad day, tough schedule, etc..), 2 is kind of your own fault. If you know this going in, maybe don't schedule little sisters of the poor in the non-conference. I wonder historically how many big 5 programs had 1 loss or fewer after the conference championship weekend? I would guess somewhere between 3 and 6?

Grantland's Andrew Sharp wrote a great article about how great the 4-team playoff is and why going bigger would be a mistake.

[bukie]

His logic is that going from 4 to 8 is bad because reasons, since the NFL has enough playoff teams that single regular season games don't matter and the best teams always get upset.

 

Of course, that's completely different, since there are 32 NFL teams and 12 playoff teams, compared to 4 of 120 in college football. Even if you want to argue that non-big 5 conference teams (and maybe one or two independents) shouldn't be considered viable for the playoff anyway (supported by Marshall never getting a whiff of a chance at the playoff), that's still just 4 of 66 teams. Every game is still going to have meaning, even in the vaunted SEC.

[Guest]

Is there a team that would have been immune to falling out of the Top 8 before last week's games? Because that's what would be necessary for anyone's games to be meaningless in that context. Maybe Bama, but if not for Ole Miss they wouldn't have even won their division with a loss so they'd be at the mercy of Championship week not leaving them on the outskirts. And at the very least they'd definitely want to be playing a team like Wisconsin in Round 1 instead of, say, Oregon, so there's incentive even if they've clinched. On top of that, this is just a single team we're talking about, literally everyone else would not have been assured a spot in the top 8 prior to Championship week.

[apete6]

Is there a team that would have been immune to falling out of the Top 8 before last week's games? Because that's what would be necessary for anyone's games to be meaningless in that context. Maybe Bama, but if not for Ole Miss they wouldn't have even won their division with a loss so they'd be at the mercy of Championship week not leaving them on the outskirts. And at the very least they'd definitely want to be playing a team like Wisconsin in Round 1 instead of, say, Oregon, so there's incentive even if they've clinched. On top of that, this is just a single team we're talking about, literally everyone else would not have been assured a spot in the top 8 prior to Championship week.

 

Mississippi State, Georgia, and UCLA would have pissed away a chance at the 8 spot. Possibly AZ/AZ State loser as well. And, really, Oregon/TCU/Baylor/OSU would have been borderline top 8 if they'd have lost last week. Going to 8 would mean at least two 2 loss teams getting in most years and losing late and/or to bad teams would kill a lot of those hopes. I don't necessarily think it would water down the regular season unless they went more than 12 teams. However, I still see how 4 is good. Losing 2 games or more is your own fault.

[OleMissCub]

Nebraska is targeting Bielema.