College Football - Week 12 (Nov. 15)

[Andy]

Updated with committee rankings

 

Top 25 games

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(1) Mississippi State at (5) Alabama (3:30 pm, CBS)

(3) Florida State at Miami (8 pm, ABC)

(4) TCU at Kansas (3 pm, FS1)

(6) Arizona State at Oregon State (10:45 pm, ESPN)

(8) Ohio State at (25) Minnesota (12 pm, ABC)

(9) Auburn at (15) Georgia (7:15 pm, ESPN)

(12) Michigan State at Maryland (8 pm, BTN)

Washington at (14) Arizona (3:30 pm, FOX)

(16) Nebraska at (20) Wisconsin (3:30 pm, ABC)

(17) LSU at Arkansas (8 pm, ESPN)

Northwestern at (18) Notre Dame (3:30 pm, NBC)

(19) Clemson at (22) Georgia Tech (12 pm, ESPN)

Virginia Tech at (21) Duke (12 pm, ESPNU)

(23) Utah at Stanford (6 pm, Pac-12 Network)

Missouri at (24) Texas A&M (7:30 pm, SEC Network)

 

Other nationally available games

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Toledo at Northern Illinois (8 pm Tuesday, ESPN2)

Akron at Buffalo (8 pm Tuesday, ESPNU)

 

Kent State at Bowling Green (8 pm Wednesday, ESPN2)

Ball State at UMass (8 pm Wednesday, ESPNU)

 

East Carolina at Cincinnati (7 pm Thursday, ESPN2)

Southern Miss at UTSA (8 pm Thursday, CBSSN)

California at USC (9 pm Thursday, ESPN)

 

Tulsa at UCF (8 pm Friday, ESPN2)

 

Temple at Penn State (12 pm, ESPN2)

Iowa at Illinois (12 pm, BTN)

South Carolina at Florida (12 pm, SEC Network)

Army at Western Kentucky (12 pm, CBSSN)

Pittsburgh at North Carolina (12:30 pm, ACC Network/ESPN3)

Miami (OH) at Central Michigan (1 pm, ESPN3)

Eastern Michigan at Western Michigan (2 pm, ESPN3)

Wake Forest at NC State (3 pm, FSN South/ESPN3)

Appalachian State at Arkansas State (3 pm, ESPN3)

Oklahoma at Texas Tech (3:30 pm, ESPN)

Memphis at Tulane (3:30 pm, ESPNU)

Indiana at Rutgers (3:30 pm, BTN)

Rice at Marshall (3:30 pm, FSN)

Georgia Southern at Navy (3:30 pm, CBSSN)

Kentucky at Tennessee (4 pm, SEC Network)

Troy at Idaho (5 pm, ESPN3)

UNLV at BYU (7 pm, ESPNU)

New Mexico at Utah State (7 pm, ESPNEWS)

UL Lafayette at UL Monroe (7 pm, ESPN3)

Texas at Oklahoma State (7:30 pm, FOX)

Texas State at South Alabama (7:30 pm, ESPN3)

South Florida at SMU (8 pm, CBSSN)

North Texas at UTEP (10 pm, FS1)

San Diego State at Boise State (10:15 pm, ESPNU)

Edited November 12, 2014 by Andy

[UK1679666180]

UK is going to get hammered the way they are playing as well as how good UT is playing.

[Derwood]

PSU playing for a chance to get hammered in a December bowl game. Yay?

[dew1679666265]

UK is going to get hammered the way they are playing as well as how good UT is playing.

 

I expect us to go flat at any time.

[Guest]

I'm sure it will get mucked up somehow but it seems like we're sailing towards:

 

Florida State

Miss St/Bama

Arizona St./Oregon

TCU/Baylor

[OleMissCub]

Florida will beat FSU.

[UK1679666180]

How much longer can Winston go with out being permanently suspended?

 

He's trying at this point.

[jersey cubs fan]

How much longer can Winston go with out being permanently suspended?

 

He's trying at this point.

what happened this time?

[UK1679666180]

How much longer can Winston go with out being permanently suspended?

 

He's trying at this point.

what happened this time?

 

Although sketchy, the NCAA is investigating a point shaving possibility.

[jersey cubs fan]

How much longer can Winston go with out being permanently suspended?

 

He's trying at this point.

what happened this time?

 

Although sketchy, the NCAA is investigating a point shaving possibility.

Oh that's right, somebody mentioned that yesterday.

 

College football is so much more enjoyable when you just throw on games in the background all day and ignore the storylines.

[Guest]

Sketchy is really putting it mildly. Even the great Jameis Winston can have a bad half.

 

They made these same accusations against Tajh Boyd last year.

[shnsajax]

I'm sure it will get mucked up somehow but it seems like we're sailing towards:

 

Florida State

Miss St/Bama

Arizona St./Oregon

TCU/Baylor

 

I'll take this. Would be interesting if Bama won this weekend and lost in the SEC championship game.

[Guest]

I'm sure it will get mucked up somehow but it seems like we're sailing towards:

 

Florida State

Miss St/Bama

Arizona St./Oregon

TCU/Baylor

 

I'll take this. Would be interesting if Bama won this weekend and lost in the SEC championship game.

 

Yeah, we'd see how much the committee would value winning a conference title in picking between a one-loss OSU and a one-loss Mississippi State (assuming they beat Ole Miss).

[Ryne Ween]

As much as id rather see OSU get in in that scenario you'd have to put a one-loss miss st in the final four over OSU. If Miss St has on pas at Bama and wins vs Ole Miss and Auburn you have to put them in over OSUs loss to Va tech and wins over MSU and Nebraska.

 

Personally I'd rather see OSU et in because of the hatred and passion they inspire over a lukewarm miss st that plays a tim tebow offense without Percy Harvin. They are so unfun to watch play. OSUs offense is fun. Nobody really gives a [expletive] about miss st.

[Ryne Ween]

I'm sure it will get mucked up somehow but it seems like we're sailing towards:

 

Florida State

Miss St/Bama

Arizona St./Oregon

TCU/Baylor

 

I'll take this. Would be interesting if Bama won this weekend and lost in the SEC championship game.

 

Yeah, we'd see how much the committee would value winning a conference title in picking between a one-loss OSU and a one-loss Mississippi State (assuming they beat Ole Miss).

 

The committee should have never released their criteria. It's just makin them look stupid. They said h2h, conference title, SOS and eye test. Bama was number 6 last week without a quality win. Baylor and TCU are playing basically te same schedule and it's likely that Baylor will win the conference and won the head to head.

 

Really not understanding what they are gonna do with TCU and Baylor if they both win out. Virtually everybody considers TCU te better team but TCU had a chance to beat them and they didn't.

[stuy119]

Florida will beat FSU.

 

The way we've played this year, it's possible that UM, BC, and UF have a shot at us. I'm not feeling confident about any of those games.

 

How much longer can Winston go with out being permanently suspended?

 

He's trying at this point.

what happened this time?

 

Although sketchy, the NCAA is investigating a point shaving possibility.

 

Meh, the guy who threw it out there, "Incarcerated Bob," is a pretty sketchy fellow: http://davidpurdumsports.com/2013/06/11/what-happened-when-i-tried-to-interview-incarcerated-bob/

[shnsajax]

I'm sure it will get mucked up somehow but it seems like we're sailing towards:

 

Florida State

Miss St/Bama

Arizona St./Oregon

TCU/Baylor

 

I'll take this. Would be interesting if Bama won this weekend and lost in the SEC championship game.

 

Yeah, we'd see how much the committee would value winning a conference title in picking between a one-loss OSU and a one-loss Mississippi State (assuming they beat Ole Miss).

 

Being the first year of a playoff committee I think they would have no choice but to leave out the SEC for right or wrong. If you have 4 conference 5 other conference champions with 1 loss it will be tough for them to justify taking Miss St in that scenario.

[Guest]

Miss St

Oregon

Florida St

TCU

Alabama

Arizona St

Baylor

Ohio St

Auburn

Ole Miss

[Ryne Ween]

I don't understand this. Baylor beat TCU. What's the point of playing that game?

 

This is crazy. This is dumb. Apparently it's more important to play and beat Minnesota than to play and lose to Baylor.

 

Baylor does not control it's destiny in the big 12.

[Ryne Ween]

Baylor curb stomped OU at OU. TCU played OU to a shoot out in Fort Worth. This is crazy.

[Guest]

Baylor also had a worse loss than TCU. I think Baylor should be ahead of TCU but I'm fine with them being behind them as of now. TCU has played the extra good opponent. They both have one crap team and one ok team left. The difference is TCU plays the worst team in the conference while Baylor plays KSt. TCU's remaining opponents are 10-18 overall and 5-14 in conference while Baylor's are 15-12 overall and 9-9 in conference. If Baylor wins out, I think they'll jump TCU.

[Ryne Ween]

Baylor also had a worse loss than TCU. I think Baylor should be ahead of TCU but I'm fine with them being behind them as of now. TCU has played the extra good opponent. They both have one crap team and one ok team left. The difference is TCU plays the worst team in the conference while Baylor plays KSt. TCU's remaining opponents are 10-18 overall and 5-14 in conference while Baylor's are 15-12 overall and 9-9 in conference. If Baylor wins out, I think they'll jump TCU.

 

What if TCU dominates the rest of it's schedule. And Baylor wins out in relatively competitive games?

 

The committee chairman said "head to head comes into play when all else is equal". That's absurd and he needs to be fired.

 

Also oregon jumping the defending national champion FSU is a crime. The chairman said it's because oregon has 3 top 25 wins to FSUs 2.

[Guest]

PFF's game of the week last week was Notre Dame-ASU: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/11/09/college-game-of-the-week-fighting-irish-sun-devils/

 

Ronnie Stanley and DJ Foster rated very highly.

[OleMissCub]

Also oregon jumping the defending national champion FSU is a crime. The chairman said it's because oregon has 3 top 25 wins to FSUs 2.

 

What they did last year is irrelevant.

[Ryne Ween]

Also oregon jumping the defending national champion FSU is a crime. The chairman said it's because oregon has 3 top 25 wins to FSUs 2.

 

What they did last year is irrelevant.

 

In practice the defending national champion is generally put in the poll possession in te rankings. They also started the year at no. 1 and were able to beat Clemson absent their best player. I can understand them slipping in favor of a different team if that team were both dominant and unbeaten. But oregon lost a home game so I don't get elevating them over FSU.