2014-2015 NBA Regular Season

[Deeg]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

[Derwood]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

[rawaction]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

 

Uh....didn't he run the triangle with Kobe? And win several championships doing so?

[Derwood]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

 

Uh....didn't he run the triangle with Kobe? And win several championships doing so?

 

The Lakers had Gasol, who was great at passing out of the triangle, while the Knicks don't have the prerequisite "big man who can pass"

[rawaction]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

 

Uh....didn't he run the triangle with Kobe? And win several championships doing so?

 

The Lakers had Gasol, who was great at passing out of the triangle, while the Knicks don't have the prerequisite "big man who can pass"

 

I know that. But you didn't say Jackson thought he could run the triangle with a team without a big man who can pass. You said he couldnt' run it thru a guy who hates passing aka Melo. You're changing the parameters.

[Derwood]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

 

Uh....didn't he run the triangle with Kobe? And win several championships doing so?

 

The Lakers had Gasol, who was great at passing out of the triangle, while the Knicks don't have the prerequisite "big man who can pass"

 

I know that. But you didn't say Jackson thought he could run the triangle with a team without a big man who can pass. You said he couldnt' run it thru a guy who hates passing aka Melo. You're changing the parameters.

 

Fair enough. "A guy who hates passing, coupled with a supporting roster who doesn't fit the system"

[rawaction]

Did the Bulls teams have any good big men passers? Not trying to argue, just really can't remember if guys like Perdue, Cartwright, Grant, etc. could pass. I think Wennington was decent. And I know Kukoc was 6'10", but wasn't really a "big".

[Deeg]

Did the Bulls teams have any good big men passers? Not trying to argue, just really can't remember if guys like Perdue, Cartwright, Grant, etc. could pass. I think Wennington was decent. And I know Kukoc was 6'10", but wasn't really a "big".

 

Luc Longley was a terrific passer, if you want to talk about centers only. But all the PF could pass - Rodman was a fantastic passer.

 

Also, it should be pointed out that Kobe averaged 5.5.-6 APG during most of the Lakers glory years. He was fine with passing the ball when he had anyone to pass it to.

[Cubswin11]

Yeah Kobe is actually a really good passer, when he wants to be.

[rawaction]

Did the Bulls teams have any good big men passers? Not trying to argue, just really can't remember if guys like Perdue, Cartwright, Grant, etc. could pass. I think Wennington was decent. And I know Kukoc was 6'10", but wasn't really a "big".

 

Luc Longley was a terrific passer, if you want to talk about centers only. But all the PF could pass - Rodman was a fantastic passer.

 

Also, it should be pointed out that Kobe averaged 5.5.-6 APG during most of the Lakers glory years. He was fine with passing the ball when he had anyone to pass it to.

 

Ah, didn't think of Longley. Good call.

[UMFan83]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

 

Uh....didn't he run the triangle with Kobe? And win several championships doing so?

 

The Lakers had Gasol, who was great at passing out of the triangle, while the Knicks don't have the prerequisite "big man who can pass"

 

And the Knicks will have cap space this offseason and reportedly are going after Marc Gasol, who I believe has a similar ability to pass as his brother. I think that was Phil's plan...Melo = Kobe, Marc Gasol = Pau

[Cubswin11]

There's some rumors that Carmelo may need knee surgery

[Wilson A2000]

There's some rumors that Carmelo may need knee surgery

 

And that he would consider waiving his no-trade clause. His agent says otherwise. http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Butler is cheaper and all around, a better player the next 5 years. Can the Bulls afford him?

[Cubswin11]

There's some rumors that Carmelo may need knee surgery

 

And that he would consider waiving his no-trade clause. His agent says otherwise. http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Butler is cheaper and all around, a better player the next 5 years. Can the Bulls afford him?

They can, you can go over the cap to keep your own players

[Wilson A2000]

There's some rumors that Carmelo may need knee surgery

 

And that he would consider waiving his no-trade clause. His agent says otherwise. http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Butler is cheaper and all around, a better player the next 5 years. Can the Bulls afford him?

They can, you can go over the cap to keep your own players

 

Yea but Reinsdorf said he doesn't really want to go over the cap much unless that player is a stud who really increases the chances of getting a ring.

[UMFan83]

There's some rumors that Carmelo may need knee surgery

 

And that he would consider waiving his no-trade clause. His agent says otherwise. http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Butler is cheaper and all around, a better player the next 5 years. Can the Bulls afford him?

They can, you can go over the cap to keep your own players

 

Yea but Reinsdorf said he doesn't really want to go over the cap much unless that player is a stud who really increases the chances of getting a ring.

 

It's the luxury tax that he wants to avoid, and he went over it for Rip Hamilton, so I'm not concerned about whether he will pay for a 25 year old likely all-star.

[Cubswin11]

Also the cap is expected rise a lot each year for the next few years. That's why Lebron has the opt out in 2 years, max contracts (and contracts in general) are likely going to be a lot more than they are now.

[imb]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

 

Uh....didn't he run the triangle with Kobe? And win several championships doing so?

 

kobe is on an entirely different planet when it comes to passing than carmelo.

[Ryne Ween]

I think all the talk about the triangle is overblown. It's like the only offense anybody has heard of so they make a big deal out of it wherever Phil Jackson goes. Every team runs some kind of offense. Any good roster of players can run the triangle offense. The Jordan bulls and the Shaq lakers didn't run the same set of plays all the time. It's just this big part of the Phil aura that isn't really as relevant as people are claiming. This offense was invented in the infancy of basketball as a sport.

 

Melo is a great player and is great in any system. The knicks roster is bad. They can't do anything well. Phil is an egomaniac who probably thought associating himself with a team improves it. He's not a personel guy and he never was. He was actually bad at it when he had good teams. The guys he lobbied for like Tyrone lue all sucked. There was nothing to suggest he could succeed in New York and it's no surprise he made a couple of marginal upgrade signings, resigned Carmelo and called it a day. He's not even near the team. He hired a guy who has never coached. I fully expected this to me a mess though I am surprise at how bad it is.

[Cubswin11]

http://nypost.com/2014/12/12/carmelo-anthony-will-consider-waiving-no-trade-clause-source/

 

Melo is already "open" to a trade. ROFL! Who could have predicted this would go badly? The part that still surprises me is that Phil was willing to give him that contract rather than S/T and start over.

 

or that Jackson thought that he could run the triangle through a player who hates passing the ball

 

Uh....didn't he run the triangle with Kobe? And win several championships doing so?

 

kobe is on an entirely different planet when it comes to passing than carmelo.

Yeah, Kobe's first two years in the league are the only years were he didn't average more assists than Carmelo's career high in assists per game. Even when Kobe is/was godless chucking he has averaged 2-3 more assists per game than Carmelo's career high season of 3.8.

[Banedon]

Steve Kerr....awesome.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/104/stephen-curry-willing-to-dish-final-shot&ex_cid

 

Kerr explained how Curry giving up the ball has fueled the Warriors' offense at times: “I think what we try to do all the time is, if Steph gets doubled, just make the easy pass. Get it out of there. We got plenty of skill around him, and that’s what changed the Houston game the other night, the last five minutes. They kept trapping him on those drags and he just made the simple pass to Draymond. Draymond put it on the floor and we got easier shots.”

 

Kerr, who hit one of the most famous Finals shots because Jordan passed out of a double-team, has a theory on why there’s so much demand for superstars to take the last shots: “It’s because people are idiots, that’s why. The point of the game is to get an open shot and if a guy’s double-teamed he should pass it. That’s the game.”

 

On Curry trusting him in those moments, Green said it helps explain the success of basketball’s hottest team, theorizing, “That’s why we’re, whatever-and-2. That’s why. Because we play team basketball.”

[UMFan83]

Kerr is awesome and the Warriors are so awesome to watch. I hope they come out of the west and play the bulls in the finals, although we'll probably get stomped

[Banedon]

Wow. Josh McRoberts needs knee surgery and may miss the rest of the season.

[bukie]

The 8th place team in the West right now is a game under .500.

 

So the conferences are more or less balanced at this point in time, record-wise, top-8 (West still leads H2H by an absurd amount, and the bad East teams are BAD).

 

That is, until OKC gets rolling.

[Banedon]

The 8th place team in the West right now is a game under .500.

 

So the conferences are more or less balanced at this point in time, record-wise, top-8 (West still leads H2H by an absurd amount, and the bad East teams are BAD).

 

That is, until OKC gets rolling.

 

It seems like this has been the case for years, and years, and years now. When was the last time the East was better than the West?