Week 7: Dolphins (2-3) @ Bears (3-3) Noon, CBS/780

[WrigleyField 22]

Didn't Jay like lead the league in 4th quarter comebacks the past year or two. So untimely.

 

I can't remember them all exactly but pretty sure it was happening frequently enough to get talked about during games.

 

 

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[Guest]

Ill-timed throws? Don't leave out 'costly turnovers' from the quote.

 

i'm asking what the long streak of untimely play is about

 

i know he has thrown interceptions at bad times sometimes. lots of quarterbacks have. even good ones. and yes, i'd like him to clean up that area of his game.

 

ROFL 'clean up' that area of his game? So 9 years in hes going to change suddenly?

 

uhh considering he's got an actual coach, talent around him and protection on offense unlike most of that career and is currently throwing for the second lowest int% of his career (while also being on pace for several other career highs), yes?

 

and you still haven't addressed what the hell you mean by "long streak of untimely play"

[Guest]

Didn't Jay like lead the league in 4th quarter comebacks the past year or two. So untimely.

 

I can't remember them all exactly but pretty sure it was happening frequently enough to get talked about during games.

 

 

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yeah something like that

[Guest]

coaches explain why they keep takign the ball out

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/10/15/durkin-coaches-explain-kick-return-struggles/

[JonJayCutler]

What the hell's going on here? Let's go back 10 years and have Krenzel/Quinn as the QBs, or 15 years and have Miller/Matthews. That'll solve this.

 

Seriously, be grateful for an above-average QB, and arguably the best QB the Bears have ever had.

 

Everybody feels entitled to a Rodgers these days, sheesh.

[Guest]

What the hell's going on here? Let's go back 10 years and have Krenzel/Quinn as the QBs, or 15 years and have Miller/Matthews. That'll solve this.

 

Seriously, be grateful for an above-average QB, and arguably the best QB the Bears have ever had.

 

Everybody feels entitled to a Rodgers these days, sheesh.

 

oh but he's been a jay supporter all along. this year is just the final straw. didn't you know?

[Guest]

Oh, so we're going to pretend that football statistics are a complete story to a football game and ones season. His statistics have improved. His 10 year streak of untimely play and costly turnovers have not.

 

I'll wait to see how the season plays out. The hope is gone and the expectancy of something bad eventually happening remains.

 

yep, Jay is better but he's not better. totally clear on that one.

[Banedon]

It so ridiculous to judge qb's on stats that don't favor my argument guys. You have to count the stats that make my argument look better, no matter how old and irrelevant.

[Guest]

Ill-timed throws? Don't leave out 'costly turnovers' from the quote.

 

and not saying hi to Hank the janitor on his way from his car to the locker room.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Ill-timed throws? Don't leave out 'costly turnovers' from the quote.

 

i'm asking what the long streak of untimely play is about

 

i know he has thrown interceptions at bad times sometimes. lots of quarterbacks have. even good ones. and yes, i'd like him to clean up that area of his game.

 

ROFL 'clean up' that area of his game? So 9 years in hes going to change suddenly?

 

 

r u drunk?

[UMFan83]

Patriots are like 100-0 when they lose a game. Should I be rooting for NE

[treebird]

Patriots are like 100-0 when they lose a game. Should I be rooting for NE

 

super lame, but i've been thinking the exact same thing

[treebird]

Patriots are like 100-0 when they lose a game. Should I be rooting for NE

 

super lame, but i've been thinking the exact same thing

 

guaranteed bears w next week

[Chocolate Milk]

Patriots are like 100-0 when they lose a game. Should I be rooting for NE

 

super lame, but i've been thinking the exact same thing

 

guaranteed bears w next week

NE's defense is really soft without Mayo. They match up terribly against the Bears offense, imo.

[Guest]

Patriots are like 100-0 when they lose a game. Should I be rooting for NE

 

super lame, but i've been thinking the exact same thing

 

guaranteed bears w next week

NE's defense is really soft without Mayo. They match up terribly against the Bears offense, imo.

 

OMG OMG HES BACK AGAIN

[Warpticon]

I watched the Dolphins game yesterday. It was the only game on where I was at. Tannehill has tunnel vision. Charles Clay broke open to the left for what should have been the easiest touchdown of the entire weekend, and instead, Tannehill tried to force it into coverage to some guy wearing #14. Incomplete and had to settle for a field goal. He mostly looks to his receivers to make plays. Miller and Moreno can catch out of the backfield, however.

 

He can get that way, but when he's playing well (2nd half of Pats game, 2nd half of Packers game, Raiders game) he goes through his progressions and often finds his 2nd and 3rd options. At times he can look like the best QB in the league, and at times he looks like it's the first time he's ever played quarterback. He's a great athlete (WR in college) and often uses his legs to keep plays alive. They like to force feed Wallace, and at times he has ball security issues. I'd be surprised if Wallace doesn't have a fumble or 2 in this game. Jarvis Landry (2nd round pick out of LSU) is coming off a great game, but he's not anything too special. Lamar Miller can make plays and the combination of him and Moreno will be tough to stop, especially if Moreno is healthy. The Dolphins have been running a lot of read option lately and the Bears haven't been the best at stopping it, so look for the Dolphins to use it early and often.

 

The Dolphins have a terrific defense. Olivier Vernon and Cameron Wake are probably the best pair of DEs in the league. They can really pressure the QB. Brent Grimes is a terrific CB (#2 per PFF last year). Cortland Finnegan is pretty terrible these days and whoever he is guarding should have a monster day (probably Jeffrey). I think the Bears are going to have a tough time running the ball and will have some issues protecting Jay, but overall they should be able to move the ball via the pass and put up points.

 

As both a Bears and Dolphins fan, this game will be a bummer either way. Both teams really need a win. I'd go Bears 27-24.

 

First, for those saying this is a test of whether or not the Bears "play down to the comp," I find that sentiment odd. It's not like the Bears have shown themselves to be anything special yet, just like the Dolphins. They're basically the same team at this point, quality-wise. The Bears have one more win in one more game played, and both teams have a slight negative point differential.

 

I don't agree that Finnegan is "terrible these days" at all. He was pretty bad in St. Louis, but he's been good as a Dolphin outside of the last game. However, he and Grimes give up a LOT of size to Marshall and Jeffery, which will make those matchups very tough. They'll also be challenged to cover against Forte and Bennett with a linebacking corps that not entirely healthy. Misi is nursing an ankle injury that took him out on Green Bay's last drive last weekend, directly contributing to the game-winning touchdown pass from Rodgers to Quarless. If they have to put Wheeler in coverage, that's really bad news. Jelani Jenkins has been excellent in coverage, but he can only cover one or the other.

 

The Bears' question mark at RT is a disadvantage, considering the RT has to block Cameron wake. The Dolphins DL is very strong, and one of the keys to the Dolphins competing will be pressuring Cutler to make things easier on the coverage. On the flip side, the Dolphins need to establish the run game early to get shorter conversions and open up play action, and they need to run more plays with layered routes to get Tannehill rolling early. The Bears will want to lock down the running game and force Tannehill and the passing game to beat them.

 

Ultimately, I think this game comes down to line play on both sides. If the Bears can stop the Dolphin running game and protect Cutler consistently, the game is clearly in their favor. If the Dolphins can run the ball effectively and get pressure on Cutler, they probably win with a similar margin. If the results are in between, well, the results are in between.

[Guest]

Conte and Briggs are out. Looks like Brock Vereen will become the fourth rookie to start this year for the Bears.

[rawaction]

I watched the Dolphins game yesterday. It was the only game on where I was at. Tannehill has tunnel vision. Charles Clay broke open to the left for what should have been the easiest touchdown of the entire weekend, and instead, Tannehill tried to force it into coverage to some guy wearing #14. Incomplete and had to settle for a field goal. He mostly looks to his receivers to make plays. Miller and Moreno can catch out of the backfield, however.

 

He can get that way, but when he's playing well (2nd half of Pats game, 2nd half of Packers game, Raiders game) he goes through his progressions and often finds his 2nd and 3rd options. At times he can look like the best QB in the league, and at times he looks like it's the first time he's ever played quarterback. He's a great athlete (WR in college) and often uses his legs to keep plays alive. They like to force feed Wallace, and at times he has ball security issues. I'd be surprised if Wallace doesn't have a fumble or 2 in this game. Jarvis Landry (2nd round pick out of LSU) is coming off a great game, but he's not anything too special. Lamar Miller can make plays and the combination of him and Moreno will be tough to stop, especially if Moreno is healthy. The Dolphins have been running a lot of read option lately and the Bears haven't been the best at stopping it, so look for the Dolphins to use it early and often.

 

The Dolphins have a terrific defense. Olivier Vernon and Cameron Wake are probably the best pair of DEs in the league. They can really pressure the QB. Brent Grimes is a terrific CB (#2 per PFF last year). Cortland Finnegan is pretty terrible these days and whoever he is guarding should have a monster day (probably Jeffrey). I think the Bears are going to have a tough time running the ball and will have some issues protecting Jay, but overall they should be able to move the ball via the pass and put up points.

 

As both a Bears and Dolphins fan, this game will be a bummer either way. Both teams really need a win. I'd go Bears 27-24.

 

First, for those saying this is a test of whether or not the Bears "play down to the comp," I find that sentiment odd. It's not like the Bears have shown themselves to be anything special yet, just like the Dolphins. They're basically the same team at this point, quality-wise. The Bears have one more win in one more game played, and both teams have a slight negative point differential.

 

I don't agree that Finnegan is "terrible these days" at all. He was pretty bad in St. Louis, but he's been good as a Dolphin outside of the last game. However, he and Grimes give up a LOT of size to Marshall and Jeffery, which will make those matchups very tough. They'll also be challenged to cover against Forte and Bennett with a linebacking corps that not entirely healthy. Misi is nursing an ankle injury that took him out on Green Bay's last drive last weekend, directly contributing to the game-winning touchdown pass from Rodgers to Quarless. If they have to put Wheeler in coverage, that's really bad news. Jelani Jenkins has been excellent in coverage, but he can only cover one or the other.

 

The Bears' question mark at RT is a disadvantage, considering the RT has to block Cameron wake. The Dolphins DL is very strong, and one of the keys to the Dolphins competing will be pressuring Cutler to make things easier on the coverage. On the flip side, the Dolphins need to establish the run game early to get shorter conversions and open up play action, and they need to run more plays with layered routes to get Tannehill rolling early. The Bears will want to lock down the running game and force Tannehill and the passing game to beat them.

 

Ultimately, I think this game comes down to line play on both sides. If the Bears can stop the Dolphin running game and protect Cutler consistently, the game is clearly in their favor. If the Dolphins can run the ball effectively and get pressure on Cutler, they probably win with a similar margin. If the results are in between, well, the results are in between.

 

I think the Bears are the better team. And are playing at home. The Bears won or nearly won several games last year (and in the opener this year) that they couldn't stop teams from running the ball. Even if the Dolphins do run the ball and get some pressure on Cutler, Jay has actually been really good under pressure this year. I think that even if the Dolphins run the ball well, sack Cutler 3-4 times, they still won't win if the Bears don't turn it over. You can argue that pressure will force turnovers, but it hasn't so far. Cutler has the 3rd highest completion percentage when under pressure with 5 TDs and 1 INT.

[Guest]

oh ok a chocolate milk appearance is just an everyday occurrence now i guess

[JonJayCutler]

In addition to the two that are out...Bostic is questionable, while DJ Williams, McClellin, Bushrod, McManis, and Mills are all probable.

 

Nice to finally be getting a bit healthier.

[jersey cubs fan]

oh ok a chocolate milk appearance is just an everyday occurrence now i guess

he's got like 10 posts this week in the GOT thread. We're over it.

[Guest]

oh ok a chocolate milk appearance is just an everyday occurrence now i guess

he's got like 10 posts this week in the GOT thread. We're over it.

 

http://brafootball.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/tumblr_m1i1wevx071r1bvoxo1_r1_500-1.gif?w=830

[rawaction]

In addition to the two that are out...Bostic is questionable, while DJ Williams, McClellin, Bushrod, McManis, and Mills are all probable.

 

Nice to finally be getting a bit healthier.

 

Including preseason, the Bears projected starting OL has played together for 2 1/2 quarters this season. They played together for 15 games and 3 plays last year, and only missed 1 guy the whole time. Hell, I don't know that the line ever practiced as a whole in training camp or in practice other than leading up to Week 1. Long was out first, then Mills, then Garza and Slauson, then Bushrod, then Mills again most recently.

[cubbyvirus00]

It so ridiculous to judge qb's on stats that don't favor my argument guys. You have to count the stats that make my argument look better, no matter how old and irrelevant.

 

 

Saw this one today. According to Gil Brandt. Pickable passes (ball thrown that should have been INT):

Best: Cam Newton (0 in 179 att), Matt Ryan (1-234).

Worst: Jay Cutler (9-229)

 

#footballstats

 

 

I find it strange that some people on here are pretending that the guy isnt the QB that tends to throw a back breaking INT in the worst situations. Statistically an average to above average QB, okay. But he's been INT prone in bad situations over the last 9 years. To think it's a matter of 'cleaning it up' and that he's going to suddenly 'clean it up' is laughable and mind-numbingly stupid. Dan Bernstein had it right when seriously doubting that he'll ever be able to put together a win streak long enough to take a team to the Superbowl.

 

McNabb is incorrect about comparing Cutler to Romo due to the fact that Romo has better career numbers then Jay.

Edited October 17, 2014 by cubbyvirus00

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Cutler is a guy who throws bad interceptions. They don't happen with any more frequency in certain times.