Is a hot dog a sandwich?

[Clem Fandango]

the bun distinction makes no sense to me because you have to slice the bun, therefore making it sliced bread

 

i think ultimately one must drill down to the purpose of the bread in order to truly answer this question. on a sandwich, the bread is the main ingredient and the defining form of the finished product. you can bend, break, and smear the inner ingredients every which way in order to conform to the shape of the bread. contrast this with the sausage, to whom the bread's form is subservient. furthermore, in this example, the bread's primary purpose is to free the consumer from the tyranny of silverware without soiling their digits

 

wraps, burritos, etc. are not sandwiches and only an insufferable person would think such things

 

You're bad at sandwiches if bread is ever the main ingredient.

 

seriously

 

that made no sense at all.

 

Huh? Sure it does. If you remove the bread from a traditional sandwich you're left with a pile of meat and toppings, not a breadless sandwich. And like he said, using some sort of replacement for the bread often leads to it being defined as something else like a wrap, pita, burrito etc. The bread defines the sandwich, therefore it is THE ingredient to making a sandwich. It's not the best ingredient, but it's essential. If you do some wackadoo [expletive] and slather mayo, mustard, butter, and marmalade between two pieces of bread, that will be considered as a mayo, mustard, butter, and marmalade sandwich, will it not?

 

The bread is the defining ingredient

[Guest]

the bun distinction makes no sense to me because you have to slice the bun, therefore making it sliced bread

 

i think ultimately one must drill down to the purpose of the bread in order to truly answer this question. on a sandwich, the bread is the main ingredient and the defining form of the finished product. you can bend, break, and smear the inner ingredients every which way in order to conform to the shape of the bread. contrast this with the sausage, to whom the bread's form is subservient. furthermore, in this example, the bread's primary purpose is to free the consumer from the tyranny of silverware without soiling their digits

 

wraps, burritos, etc. are not sandwiches and only an insufferable person would think such things

 

You're bad at sandwiches if bread is ever the main ingredient.

 

seriously

 

that made no sense at all.

 

And like he said, using some sort of replacement for the bread often leads to it being defined as something else like a wrap, pita, burrito etc.

 

Things in pitas are sandwiches. You either get a gyros sandwich or a gyros plate. Those other things you listed are not in bread.

[jersey cubs fan]

Huh? Sure it does. If you remove the bread from a traditional sandwich you're left with a pile of meat and toppings, not a breadless sandwich. And like he said, using some sort of replacement for the bread often leads to it being defined as something else like a wrap, pita, burrito etc. The bread defines the sandwich, therefore it is THE ingredient to making a sandwich. It's not the best ingredient, but it's essential. If you do some wackadoo [expletive] and slather mayo, mustard, butter, and marmalade between two pieces of bread, that will be considered as a mayo, mustard, butter, and marmalade sandwich, will it not?

 

The bread is the defining ingredient

 

No, it is not. Nor is it the main ingredient. It is a means to an end except in the very rare instances when you actually have amazing bread.

[SouthSideRyan]

So is pizza a sandwich?

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

anything with bread is now a sandwich

[WrigleyField 22]

So is pizza a sandwich?

It's a stretch to call crust bread, but even then cooking the toppings/ingredients at the same time you cook the raw dough would definitely disqualify for sandwich status. Usually I'd also dock for not having two sides to the bread though there are a couple exceptions for open faced sandwiches.

 

 

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[Guest]

To me the distinction is that there's two separate pieces of bread doing the 'sandwiching'. Two pieces of bread, sandwich. Hamburgers have two pieces to a bun, sandwich. Hot dog has a single piece of bread with meat in it, not a sandwich. Same with wraps, pizza, tacos, pitas, and gyros.

[Guest]

To me the distinction is that there's two separate pieces of bread doing the 'sandwiching'. Two pieces of bread, sandwich. Hamburgers have two pieces to a bun, sandwich. Hot dog has a single piece of bread with meat in it, not a sandwich. Same with wraps, pizza, tacos, pitas, and gyros.

 

the bread is still sandwiching the meat even if there's a sliver of bread keeping it connected

 

what about subs that have one "piece" of bread?

[Guest]

Buns are lazy and superfluous. Buns are the bread maker's trick to get you to pay mor for less. Remember that, my friends.

[SouthSideRyan]

To me the distinction is that there's two separate pieces of bread doing the 'sandwiching'. Two pieces of bread, sandwich. Hamburgers have two pieces to a bun, sandwich. Hot dog has a single piece of bread with meat in it, not a sandwich. Same with wraps, pizza, tacos, pitas, and gyros.

 

Quesadilla, sandwich.

[SouthSideRyan]

How about a pie?

[imb]

is cheesecake a cake or a pie

[treebird]

crappy aramark hot dog bun breaks down the middle while you are eating it HOT DOG SUDDENLY BECOMES SANDWICH

[SouthSideRyan]

So if I make a half sandwich by folding it over rather than cutting a piece in half?

[Clem Fandango]

Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

[SouthSideRyan]

Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

 

You're using the fact that it's called a hot dog to prove it's a hot dog.

 

If you replace the bacon on a BLT with a hamburger it becomes a hamburger, it doesn't make a BLT a non-sandwich.

[WrigleyField 22]

This is a ham sandwich. Take away the bread and its ham. Seems to work.

 

 

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[WrigleyField 22]

1. Two pieces of leavened dough or loaf of leavened dough that is split.

2. Meat/filling that is sliced, pulled, or spread. And does not contain meat ingredients which are ground or packaged in a natural or artificial casing.

3. Dough must be cooked prior to inclusion of filling (aka no tamales, calzones, or pizzas)

4. Put in some type of scientific mumbo jumbo about the ratio of sugar butter and flour to exclude cakes as the source of leavened dough.

 

 

 

 

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[Bull]

Three words to blow your mind:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ice. Cream. Sandwich

[George Hayduke]

is cheesecake a cake or a pie

Depends on they type of cheesecake. The baked New York kind with the more eggy batter that has no crust? Cake. The soupier kind that is poured into a pie crust? Pie. The pie crust (or need thereof) is the defining element here.

[Sammy Sofa]

Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

 

I like this. It's the same thing with a hamburger; it's identified solely by the meat component. Someone brings you a hot dog or a hamburger on slices of bread and you're going to notice and think it's wrong. Someone brings you a turkey or a ham or a tuna sandwich on a bun and you're going to notice and likely see that as being "wrong," too, unless it was explicitly stated on the menu that it came that way.

 

Again, there's exceptions to the sandwich rule a la things like pulled pork or breakfast sandwiches, but those seem to be people subverting or misusing the term "sandwich"...or just being too damn lazy to come up with something new.

 

And a sub or hoagie or grinder or whatever is something else based on the structure of the bread, hence why they were given different names. And don't come at me with some "sub sandwich" nonsense; it's just a sub, and saying you want a "sub sandwich" is like saying you want a "Pepsi soda" or some [expletive]. They are part of the sandwich family, but are their own entities

 

And cheesecake with crust is, of course, a pie.

Edited October 1, 2014 by Sammy Sofa

[ConstableRabbit]

Is a half rack of ribs served on a piece of white bread in the carry out box an open faced sandwich?

[Sammy Sofa]

the bun distinction makes no sense to me because you have to slice the bun, therefore making it sliced bread

 

i think ultimately one must drill down to the purpose of the bread in order to truly answer this question. on a sandwich, the bread is the main ingredient and the defining form of the finished product. you can bend, break, and smear the inner ingredients every which way in order to conform to the shape of the bread. contrast this with the sausage, to whom the bread's form is subservient. furthermore, in this example, the bread's primary purpose is to free the consumer from the tyranny of silverware without soiling their digits

 

wraps, burritos, etc. are not sandwiches and only an insufferable person would think such things

 

You're bad at sandwiches if bread is ever the main ingredient.

 

seriously

 

that made no sense at all.

 

Huh? Sure it does. If you remove the bread from a traditional sandwich you're left with a pile of meat and toppings, not a breadless sandwich. And like he said, using some sort of replacement for the bread often leads to it being defined as something else like a wrap, pita, burrito etc. The bread defines the sandwich, therefore it is THE ingredient to making a sandwich. It's not the best ingredient, but it's essential. If you do some wackadoo [expletive] and slather mayo, mustard, butter, and marmalade between two pieces of bread, that will be considered as a mayo, mustard, butter, and marmalade sandwich, will it not?

 

The bread is the defining ingredient

 

[expletive], sean had this down. Nice.

[Guest]

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[jersey cubs fan]

Has anyone addressed the fact or taken into consideration that hot dogs are meat and not a combo entity of meat and bread? I still stand by the fact that sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion, but hot dogs are defined by the meat substance. Replace a hot dog with a bratwurst, but leave it on the same bun, it is no longer a hot dog, it's a bratwurst. Same with any other type of sausage. Even if you find a place that sells turkey based hot dogs, they sell them as Turkey Dogs, not hot dogs.

 

Hot dogs (and similarly shaped concoctions of phallic shaped meat between two buns [

]) are defined by the meat substance, whereas sandwiches are defined by the inclusion of bread used in a specific fashion.

 

Hot dogs are not sandwiches.

 

Replace a ham and cheese with turkey and you have the same issue.