Week 4: Packers (1-2) @ Bears (2-1), Noon, FOX/780

[rawaction]

 

To pile on the frustration, I cant even pinpoint where to place draft picks on this defense. After 2 largely defensive drafts we still dont look to have any questions answered on defense unless you wanna award the #1 CB title to Fuller after 4 games.

 

Eh. A week ago, Bostic had the best game of his career and was the best of the Bears front 7, Fuller followed up DPOTW with DROTW, McClellin was solid, Vereen had solid coverage on the game ending play after playing solid at nickel in a pinch the week before, Sutton had a strong showing in his first NFL start and Ferguson had his first career sack. Theyre young, theyll be inconsistent. But all those guys can be part of a solid NFL defense.

[UMFan83]

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[Hairyducked Idiot]

In future drafts, more defensive line.

[minnesotacubsfan]

DE. One stud DE and this young D will be on a roll

[Splendid Splinter]

DT. One stud DT and this young D will be on a roll

 

ftfy

[Guest]

DE is definitely a far greater need.

[Soul]

I cant say I expected the Bears to win, but after that first half my hopes were high.

 

After the first drive me hopes were high. After GB's first drive they dropped off quite a bit. And after the half ended I thought they blew their chance to stay in the race.

By halftime I was cringing for the inevitable hammer blow.

[Splendid Splinter]

DE is definitely a far greater need.

 

I would argue that we need DT just as much as DE and an impact DT is far more valuable than an impact DE IMO. Esp in this defensive scheme. Getting consistent pressure on the inside will open things up for the DEs.

 

But we can all agree that it'll be another offseason/draft of mainly defensive players and have needs at every position.

[rawaction]

Bears need more speed overall. I think they need to make a point to get faster on all phases. They need a dynamic edge guy who can fly. I'd love to see Briggs (or Williams, with Bostic going to WLB) replaced by a LB that can really run and tackle well. Then I'd like to see more speed added on the back end. Preferably at safety, though another CB to cover speed in the slot would be nice too.

 

I'd also like a speed WR/RB type just for fun gimmicky plays like the Jeffery TD, but with a faster guy you could do that from further away from the endzone. Or run the end around with Marshall AND Jeffery blocking on the outside.

[RynoRules]

Barring a collapse, we will have to trade up to get an impact pass rushing DL in this draft. Obviously these rankings are fluid, but the 1st round appears to e flush with OL's and CB's.

 

EDIT: Unless you're willing to role the dice on a 3-4 type LB and put him at DE, but...ya' know....Shea...so that doesn't seem like a good idea in Tucker's scheme. Then again, Tucker might not be here next season.

 

I'd be interested in trying to hire Bowles away from AZ. Guenther from Cinci. Austin from Detroit.

Edited September 30, 2014 by RynoRules

[rawaction]

Barring a collapse, we will have to trade up to get an impact pass rushing DL in this draft. Obviously these rankings are fluid, but the 1st round appears to e flush with OL's and CB's.

 

Nah, this draft is loaded with DL talent. A bunch of them may be tweeners (i.e. DT/DE and DE/OLB hybrids), but still a pretty good class.

[RynoRules]

Barring a collapse, we will have to trade up to get an impact pass rushing DL in this draft. Obviously these rankings are fluid, but the 1st round appears to e flush with OL's and CB's.

 

Nah, this draft is loaded with DL talent. A bunch of them may be tweeners (i.e. DT/DE and DE/OLB hybrids), but still a pretty good class.

 

Agreed, but that's what I mean. We don't do well with tweeners, at least this staff hasn't so far.

[rawaction]

Barring a collapse, we will have to trade up to get an impact pass rushing DL in this draft. Obviously these rankings are fluid, but the 1st round appears to e flush with OL's and CB's.

 

Nah, this draft is loaded with DL talent. A bunch of them may be tweeners (i.e. DT/DE and DE/OLB hybrids), but still a pretty good class.

 

Agreed, but that's what I mean. We don't do well with tweeners, at least this staff hasn't so far.

 

Funny thing is I think they could use a McClellin type smaller guy to speed rush the passer on 3rd and long, but he needs to have functional strength and actual pass rush moves. It would be interesting to see if they could figure out how to use a guy like Beasley at LB on run downs and at end in the nickel.

[RynoRules]

I guess I just don't have a lot of faith in our current scheme and coaches outside of using traditional, bulkier DE's such as Houston...though even that ain't looking so good right now.

[rawaction]

I guess I just don't have a lot of faith in our current scheme and coaches outside of using traditional, bulkier DE's such as Houston...though even that ain't looking so good right now.

 

Yeah, this is assuming a new defensive scheme or coaching at least.

[Guest]

Gerald McCoy and Ndamukong Suh are free agents if DT is what you want to address.

[Guest]

Bears need more speed overall. I think they need to make a point to get faster on all phases. They need a dynamic edge guy who can fly. I'd love to see Briggs (or Williams, with Bostic going to WLB) replaced by a LB that can really run and tackle well. Then I'd like to see more speed added on the back end. Preferably at safety, though another CB to cover speed in the slot would be nice too.

 

I'd also like a speed WR/RB type just for fun gimmicky plays like the Jeffery TD, but with a faster guy you could do that from further away from the endzone. Or run the end around with Marshall AND Jeffery blocking on the outside.

 

Yeah, that's a great assessment of what the team lacks - explosive speed. As you said, even on offense but especially on defense since the defense lacks the playmakers the offense has.

[rawaction]

Bears need more speed overall. I think they need to make a point to get faster on all phases. They need a dynamic edge guy who can fly. I'd love to see Briggs (or Williams, with Bostic going to WLB) replaced by a LB that can really run and tackle well. Then I'd like to see more speed added on the back end. Preferably at safety, though another CB to cover speed in the slot would be nice too.

 

I'd also like a speed WR/RB type just for fun gimmicky plays like the Jeffery TD, but with a faster guy you could do that from further away from the endzone. Or run the end around with Marshall AND Jeffery blocking on the outside.

 

Yeah, that's a great assessment of what the team lacks - explosive speed. As you said, even on offense but especially on defense since the defense lacks the playmakers the offense has.

 

Man, I love the Pac 10 this year. Loaded with explosive defensive prospects. UCLA and Washington in particular. But all of Kikaha, Kendricks, Thompson, Peters, Ekpre-Olomu, Shelton, UCLA DE who's name I can't spell would all be excellent picks for the Bears. All are top 60 guys IMO too.

[apete6]

Three ratings on PFF released:

 

Bennett: +6.4

Houston -2.6

Ola +5.2

 

Full PFF anyone?

[Guest]

Bears need more speed overall. I think they need to make a point to get faster on all phases. They need a dynamic edge guy who can fly. I'd love to see Briggs (or Williams, with Bostic going to WLB) replaced by a LB that can really run and tackle well. Then I'd like to see more speed added on the back end. Preferably at safety, though another CB to cover speed in the slot would be nice too.

 

I'd also like a speed WR/RB type just for fun gimmicky plays like the Jeffery TD, but with a faster guy you could do that from further away from the endzone. Or run the end around with Marshall AND Jeffery blocking on the outside.

 

Yeah, that's a great assessment of what the team lacks - explosive speed. As you said, even on offense but especially on defense since the defense lacks the playmakers the offense has.

 

Man, I love the Pac 10 this year. Loaded with explosive defensive prospects. UCLA and Washington in particular. But all of Kikaha, Kendricks, Thompson, Peters, Ekpre-Olomu, Shelton, UCLA DE who's name I can't spell would all be excellent picks for the Bears. All are top 60 guys IMO too.

 

Owamagbe Odigihzuwa.

 

And man, I love Shaq Thompson. Just imagine him as the nickel LB dropping back in coverage against the Packers instead of Bostic. There are some elite Pac-12 LBs who are perfect for the more pass-friendly NFL - Thompson and sophomores Myles Jack and Su'a Cravens.

 

Matt Miller has a mock with the Bears going Jason Peters: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2214447-2015-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-quarter-season-predictions?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-des-art-top-22189

 

I think he's low on Dante Fowler and would love him instead of Peters if that's how the draft falls.

[rawaction]

Bears need more speed overall. I think they need to make a point to get faster on all phases. They need a dynamic edge guy who can fly. I'd love to see Briggs (or Williams, with Bostic going to WLB) replaced by a LB that can really run and tackle well. Then I'd like to see more speed added on the back end. Preferably at safety, though another CB to cover speed in the slot would be nice too.

 

I'd also like a speed WR/RB type just for fun gimmicky plays like the Jeffery TD, but with a faster guy you could do that from further away from the endzone. Or run the end around with Marshall AND Jeffery blocking on the outside.

 

Yeah, that's a great assessment of what the team lacks - explosive speed. As you said, even on offense but especially on defense since the defense lacks the playmakers the offense has.

 

Man, I love the Pac 10 this year. Loaded with explosive defensive prospects. UCLA and Washington in particular. But all of Kikaha, Kendricks, Thompson, Peters, Ekpre-Olomu, Shelton, UCLA DE who's name I can't spell would all be excellent picks for the Bears. All are top 60 guys IMO too.

 

Owamagbe Odigihzuwa.

 

And man, I love Shaq Thompson. Just imagine him as the nickel LB dropping back in coverage against the Packers instead of Bostic. There are some elite Pac-12 LBs who are perfect for the more pass-friendly NFL - Thompson and sophomores Myles Jack and Su'a Cravens.

 

Matt Miller has a mock with the Bears going Jason Peters: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2214447-2015-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-quarter-season-predictions?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=web-des-art-top-22189

 

I think he's low on Dante Fowler and would love him instead of Peters if that's how the draft falls.

 

Thompson and Bostic would probably be together in the nickel. Thompson played nickel as a freshman and could easily play SS in the NFL. Absolute freak.

 

I think Jack is the best LB prospect since maybe LaVar Arrington.

[Guest]

Thompson and Bostic would probably be together in the nickel. Thompson played nickel as a freshman and could easily play SS in the NFL. Absolute freak.

 

I think Jack is the best LB prospect since maybe LaVar Arrington.

 

Thompson still plays some SS and was recruited as a safety. And of course he's been better than Myles Jack this year as a running back.

 

You're right that Bostic would play nickel too. I was just having nightmares remembering Bostic picking up Jordy Nelson and was thinking of Thompson instead.

[Banedon]

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[Guest]

Man, I love the Pac 10 this year. Loaded with explosive defensive prospects. UCLA and Washington in particular. But all of Kikaha, Kendricks, Thompson, Peters, Ekpre-Olomu, Shelton, UCLA DE who's name I can't spell would all be excellent picks for the Bears. All are top 60 guys IMO too.

 

Oh, you forgot Oregon DE Arik Armstead. He's starting to figure things out and was a stud in the Michigan State game.

[UK1679666180]

I'm all in with Fowler for next year.