NFL week 1 (Ray Rice/Goodell fiasco)

[Sammy Sofa]

Weird cause now the NFL does think it is their place to rank a hierarchy of offenses. That's what league admins do.

 

The coverup is worse than the crime.

 

No, they can be equally awful.

[Ryne Ween]

The most ridiculous part is, and while I agree that the NFL has handled this terribly and everybody in the NFL league office and the ownership is all a bunch of horrible pricks, the NFL is not in place to punish criminals. Its not the NFLs job to determine if domestic abuse is worse than recreational drug use. Goodell, im certain, has never been trained to do this. There is a system in place thats the ultimate arbiter and its the law. The police and the district attorneys office without a shred of doubt saw the tape. Ray Rice was not punished, at all, by the organization thats sole purpose is to punish criminals for criminal acts. Even the NFLs two game suspension was the only punishment Ray Rice received. Court ordered counseling is not a punishment, its a conduit for self improvement. Ray Rice got no punishment.

 

The pitchforks are all out on Goodell and the NFL, but I honestly havent seen a single thing about the fact Ray Rice received absolutely zero punishment from the law.

 

The most ridiculous part is that you wrote this.

 

 

Also, lots of people have written about how absurd it is that he got away with it, but that this is what happens when battered women ultimately take one for the team.

 

There are probably a thousands of criticisms of Goodell for every one criticism of the law. Personally, Im not sure ive seen even one. But obviously somewhere a few people made that arguments but its drowned in the noise about the appropriate number of games that Goodell should have given Rice.

 

Its clearly an overlooked aspect of the Ray Rice story.

[Ryne Ween]

The most ridiculous part is, and while I agree that the NFL has handled this terribly and everybody in the NFL league office and the ownership is all a bunch of horrible pricks, the NFL is not in place to punish criminals. Its not the NFLs job to determine if domestic abuse is worse than recreational drug use. Goodell, im certain, has never been trained to do this. There is a system in place thats the ultimate arbiter and its the law. The police and the district attorneys office without a shred of doubt saw the tape. Ray Rice was not punished, at all, by the organization thats sole purpose is to punish criminals for criminal acts. Even the NFLs two game suspension was the only punishment Ray Rice received. Court ordered counseling is not a punishment, its a conduit for self improvement. Ray Rice got no punishment.

 

The pitchforks are all out on Goodell and the NFL, but I honestly havent seen a single thing about the fact Ray Rice received absolutely zero punishment from the law.

 

And everybody is stupid. I hate Goodell too but hes just a representative of the league. He clearly does the bidding of the owners.

 

Also i am sure that this will cause the end of the Redskins name.

 

It's not an either/or condemnation; the NFL has laid out much more harsh penalties for lesser offenses or for things that aren't even technically illegal. Regardless of what local authorities did or did not do, basic morality dictated that the NFL should have kicked Rice out ASAP.

 

I agree, my post condemns both. Its absurd that Josh Gordon did something 8x worse than what Rice did according to the NFL. Its equally absurd that Ray Rice did nothing wrong according the state of new jersey or whatever has jurisdiction in atlantic city.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's not overlooked; the police investigation has been mentioned in basically every major article about this.

[Ryne Ween]

It's not overlooked; the police investigation has been mentioned in basically every major article about this.

 

Are you [expletive] serious? Do you believe that? You think the police/local prosecution's deciisons to drop all charges and not prosecute Ray Rice is being explored pari passu with the criticism of the NFL? You dont actually believe that. You have decided to refute that and say its not being overlooked for whatever stupid reason you might have.

 

The words "police investigation" may have been mentioned in an article that's absolute subject is whether or not the NFL saw the tape or whether or not Goodell should step down.

[USSoccer]

It's not overlooked; the police investigation has been mentioned in basically every major article about this.

 

Are you [expletive] serious? Do you believe that? You think the police/local prosecution's deciisons to drop all charges and not prosecute Ray Rice is being explored pari passu with the criticism of the NFL? You dont actually believe that. You have decided to refute that and say its not being overlooked for whatever stupid reason you might have.

 

The words "police investigation" may have been mentioned in an article that's absolute subject is whether or not the NFL saw the tape or whether or not Goodell should step down.

 

But why male models?

[jersey cubs fan]

Weird cause now the NFL does think it is their place to rank a hierarchy of offenses. That's what league admins do.

 

The coverup is worse than the crime.

 

No, they can be equally awful.

 

It's not worse, it's just the thing that brings down the most people.

[jersey cubs fan]

The most ridiculous part is, and while I agree that the NFL has handled this terribly and everybody in the NFL league office and the ownership is all a bunch of horrible pricks, the NFL is not in place to punish criminals. Its not the NFLs job to determine if domestic abuse is worse than recreational drug use. Goodell, im certain, has never been trained to do this. There is a system in place thats the ultimate arbiter and its the law. The police and the district attorneys office without a shred of doubt saw the tape. Ray Rice was not punished, at all, by the organization thats sole purpose is to punish criminals for criminal acts. Even the NFLs two game suspension was the only punishment Ray Rice received. Court ordered counseling is not a punishment, its a conduit for self improvement. Ray Rice got no punishment.

 

The pitchforks are all out on Goodell and the NFL, but I honestly havent seen a single thing about the fact Ray Rice received absolutely zero punishment from the law.

 

The most ridiculous part is that you wrote this.

 

 

Also, lots of people have written about how absurd it is that he got away with it, but that this is what happens when battered women ultimately take one for the team.

 

There are probably a thousands of criticisms of Goodell for every one criticism of the law. Personally, Im not sure ive seen even one. But obviously somewhere a few people made that arguments but its drowned in the noise about the appropriate number of games that Goodell should have given Rice.

 

Its clearly an overlooked aspect of the Ray Rice story.

 

It was written about when it was a story, when he did plead guilty in May. It has also been written about since then, but the story is right now about how the NFL obviously pulled some shenanigans. When the victim writes a letter to the court in support of her assailant it is probably difficult to get much more than they did get.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's not overlooked; the police investigation has been mentioned in basically every major article about this.

 

Are you [expletive] serious? Do you believe that? You think the police/local prosecution's deciisons to drop all charges and not prosecute Ray Rice is being explored pari passu with the criticism of the NFL? You dont actually believe that. You have decided to refute that and say its not being overlooked for whatever stupid reason you might have.

 

The words "police investigation" may have been mentioned in an article that's absolute subject is whether or not the NFL saw the tape or whether or not Goodell should step down.

 

Yes, I do believe that the police investigation has been mentioned in basically every major article about this. The rest is you ranting about made-up things I never said.

 

Rice was sentenced to an ongoing punishment/rehabilitation; I agree it's a relative slap on the wrist, but even otherwise what do you expect him to be sentenced to? He has no criminal record and as horrific as the punch was it's not like he'd be locked up for a serious amount of time; it could have been prosecuted as a third degree assault, which usually at best holds up around a year of jail, a fine of a few grand and typically several years of probation. When it's someone's first criminal offense it's usually reduced and people get off with just the fine and/or community service.

 

Like it or not, he was prosecuted and can still [expletive] up and end up punished worse for it by the law. The NFL was treating it like 2 games out was more than enough and everyone should go about their business.

Edited September 9, 2014 by Sammy Sofa

[USSoccer]

There's zero point in engaging this idiot; he's disagreeing with imaginary arguments that are rattling around in his mostly empty head.

[Ryne Ween]

Ussoccer please engage me I need you to keep engaging me.

[USSoccer]

As soon as you master turning left, we can talk.

[USSoccer]

Actually, you know what? I apologize for calling you an idiot. Bad day.

[mul21]

It's not overlooked; the police investigation has been mentioned in basically every major article about this.

 

Are you [expletive] serious? Do you believe that? You think the police/local prosecution's deciisons to drop all charges and not prosecute Ray Rice is being explored pari passu with the criticism of the NFL? You dont actually believe that. You have decided to refute that and say its not being overlooked for whatever stupid reason you might have.

 

The words "police investigation" may have been mentioned in an article that's absolute subject is whether or not the NFL saw the tape or whether or not Goodell should step down.

 

Well apparently the president of the New Jersey senate (I think that's who he is) that was just on Mike and Mike is taking it seriously. He's having an investigation done on how the case was handled and pretty much said that if this was handled as the laws currently dictate/allow, then the laws need to be changed. So yeah, it's been mentioned a lot, and even on nationally broadcast shows.

[Ryne Ween]

Maybe I'm wrong then. I just haven't seen much If anything about the legal side of this but I guess if it's on mike and mike it is being discussed.

[Cubswin11]

Probably should pick up Gordon if he's available in any of your fantasy leagues

 

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/09/Capture19.jpg

[sneakypower]

Probably should pick up Gordon if he's available in any of your fantasy leagues

 

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/09/Capture19.jpg

http://media.tumblr.com/e0661b92cd8103882ec72e8c8fd4edcf/tumblr_inline_mywm0bCcG11s53974.gif

[Banedon]

Probably should pick up Gordon if he's available in any of your fantasy leagues

 

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/09/Capture19.jpg

 

Grabbed him back on Friday when rumors started. Now I have some people a bit miffed at me.

[Banedon]

Probably should pick up Gordon if he's available in any of your fantasy leagues

 

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/09/Capture19.jpg

 

Grabbed him back on Friday when rumors started. Now I have some people a bit miffed at me.

 

Of course, he'll probably get suspended again for his DWI.

[sneakypower]

Probably should pick up Gordon if he's available in any of your fantasy leagues

 

http://chicago.barstoolsports.com/files/2014/09/Capture19.jpg

 

Grabbed him back on Friday when rumors started. Now I have some people a bit miffed at me.

if he's cleared, i think that makes Manziel must-add if you have a spot

[Guest]

have Gordon for 3 years at $1 in my dynasty league, i'll be more than excited if he's cleared to play.

 

still faces 2 games for the DWI though.

[Splendid Splinter]

have Gordon for 3 years at $1 in my dynasty league, i'll be more than excited if he's cleared to play.

 

still faces 2 games for the DWI though.

 

He's going to need those 2 games off anyway because he hasn't been practicing much this offseason and needs to get into game shape?

[Cubswin11]

have Gordon for 3 years at $1 in my dynasty league, i'll be more than excited if he's cleared to play.

 

still faces 2 games for the DWI though.

 

He's going to need those 2 games off anyway because he hasn't been practicing much this offseason and needs to get into game shape?

He played in their preseason games, iirc, so I'd imagine he practiced all offseason too.

[WrigleyField 22]

Plus he can't practice with the team still while on suspension so you're counting on him getting into game shape on his own.

 

 

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[jersey cubs fan]

http://deadspin.com/the-national-domestic-violence-hotline-has-seen-a-spike-1633095254

 

we've got this all wrong, the NFL is just doing its part to save women.