Cubs acquire Felix Doubront for PTBNL

[gscool89]

RT @jonmorosi: Cubs close to acquiring Felix Doubront from Red Sox.

[Andy]

Interesting buy-low candidate. I was really high on him going into last year but he flamed out.

[SouthSideRyan]

Go Bosio Go?

[davell]

Go Bosio Go?

 

Our entire future hinges on him.

[Tryptamine]

This is really going to depend on what we give up. I don't mind him as a rebound candidate, but he's going to have to be really cheap because he has been an absolute garbage fire this year.

[davell]

My hope is not more than Christian Villanueva.

 

This almost definitely means we're dealing Russell or Wright though.

[gscool89]

RT @JimBowdenESPNxm: Red Sox got player to be named later for Duobront

[Guest]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1478&position=P

 

Why is his 2012 fWAR so much lower than his 2013, especially when his xFIP is so much better in 2012 in an almost identical innings total?

 

was replacement level that different or something?

[CubsInNC]

RT @JimBowdenESPNxm: Red Sox got player to be named later for Duobront

 

Jackson/Vitters/Olt?

[davell]

Damnit, I'm sure they're already expected Rizzo or Starlin.

[Guest]

Ooh, interesting. Doubront has always thrown a cutter, hopefully some refinement can get him back to the near 3 win pitcher he was last year.

[ConstableRabbit]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1478&position=P

 

Why is his 2012 fWAR so much lower than his 2013, especially when his xFIP is so much better in 2012 in an almost identical innings total?

 

was replacement level that different or something?

WAR uses xFIP? I thought it was based on actual, not prediction...

[CubInOK]

RT @jonmorosi: Cubs close to acquiring Felix Doubront from Red Sox.

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[Andy]

Damnit, I'm sure they're already expected Rizzo or Starlin.

I'm surprised they'd even allow him to come. Maybe if we name Doubront team president they'll only hold up the deal for six months.

[BCVM22]

A PTBNL is the return per Jim Bowden.

[Guest]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1478&position=P

 

Why is his 2012 fWAR so much lower than his 2013, especially when his xFIP is so much better in 2012 in an almost identical innings total?

 

was replacement level that different or something?

WAR uses xFIP? I thought it was based on actual, not prediction...

 

fangraphs uses fielding independent numbers...but i think it's the FIP, not xFIP, which DUH that explains it

 

 

BR uses ERA

[Rob]

Go Bosio Go?

 

He's certainly got his work cut out for him on this one.

[ConstableRabbit]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1478&position=P

 

Why is his 2012 fWAR so much lower than his 2013, especially when his xFIP is so much better in 2012 in an almost identical innings total?

 

was replacement level that different or something?

WAR uses xFIP? I thought it was based on actual, not prediction...

 

fangraphs uses fielding independent numbers...but i think it's the FIP, not xFIP, which DUH that explains it

 

 

BR uses ERA

Yeah that's what I was getting at when I said prediction vs. actual.

 

Also, didn't know about bWAR using ERA. Good info -- thx.

[Kujo]

Who loses their rotation spot Wada?

[Guest]

RT @JimBowdenESPNxm: Red Sox got player to be named later for Duobront

 

We'll just reroute the PTBNL we got from the Dodgers for Barney to Boston.

[gscool89]

Who loses their rotation spot Wada?

I'm assuming they're going to do what they did with Arrieta/Straily and put him in AAA.

[Fro]

Who loses their rotation spot Wada?

I'm assuming they're going to do what they did with Arrieta/Straily and put him in AAA.

 

Yeah, I presume he needs to get stretched out anyway since he's been mad about pitching out of the bullpen (hence the trade).

[davell]

Who loses their rotation spot Wada?

 

My guess is no one. He's been in the pen for the last month or so himself.

[Rob]

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1478&position=P

 

Why is his 2012 fWAR so much lower than his 2013, especially when his xFIP is so much better in 2012 in an almost identical innings total?

 

was replacement level that different or something?

WAR uses xFIP? I thought it was based on actual, not prediction...

 

fangraphs uses fielding independent numbers...but i think it's the FIP, not xFIP, which DUH that explains it

 

 

BR uses ERA

 

Confirmed.

 

Fangraphs - FIP

Baseball-Reference - ERA

[SouthSideRyan]

He won't make much, but he'll be Arb-1 next year.