Samardzija trade rumors

[KingCubsFan]

That team had two starters under 30: Theriot and Soto. Most were 31-33. Unless you subscribe to the Dusty Baker theory of player performance, most of those guys were theoretically past their prime.

 

And yet none of them really got any worse the following season. Amazing.

Yeah, Soriano really lit the world on fire.

[SouthSideRyan]

He was injured, and I can only assume was never heard from again.

[ScrubMD]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

[Sammy Sofa]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

How does being right or wrong about such a statement have anything to do with being smarter or not? It's just goofy hyperbole.

[SouthSideRyan]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

It was impossible to have sustained success because they drafted really poorly under him which is so dumbfounding when you consider he was a freakin farm director It doesn't take abandoning all hope of competitiveness for 3 years to not draft like a [expletive] moron.

 

Regarding next year, I can't see it happening without Baez and Bryant playing key roles, and I firmly believe they will not see the bigs until we've sucked another pre-FA year out of them meaning we have no intention of competing next season.

[ScrubMD]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

How does being right or wrong about such a statement have anything to do with being smarter or not? It's just goofy hyperbole.

 

You're right. I should be taking this much more seriously. I apologize.

[imb]

Ahahahahaha

[Sammy Sofa]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

How does being right or wrong about such a statement have anything to do with being smarter or not? It's just goofy hyperbole.

 

You're right. I should be taking this much more seriously. I apologize.

 

Didn't know you were kidding with all of that and should have realized it with such an obviously ridiculous statement; my bad.

[davell]

Javy needs to turn things around dramatically in order to get a late season call up. I'm not worried about him struggling as a 21 year old in AAA. But if we have any hope for 2015, he needs to turn it around fairly quick. Otherwise, SSR is completely right-neither him or KB will be on the Opening Day roster next year. Personally, I don't see KB coming up, even without any hiccups, until we save an extra control year, unless Javy gets it together soon. Otherwise, it'll be next year after the cut off date.

 

Getting a guy like Despaigne would help move the timeline a bit. But, I don't expect a Scherzer type move. Maybe Masterson, but at the expense of trading Shark.

 

With the money coming off, I can see a Masterson and Despaigne type offseason. Or something similar anyway. We've got plenty of flexibility moving forward, but I'm not seeing 2015 as the season we "go for it" per se.

 

I'm not saying this to get flamed or to argue over The Plan, I'm saying it because its what I expect, based off the current state of the team.

[imb]

im not worried about a 21-year-old struggling at AAA, but what Javy is doing isn't struggling, it's dying.

[ScrubMD]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

It was impossible to have sustained success because they drafted really poorly under him which is so dumbfounding when you consider he was a freakin farm director It doesn't take abandoning all hope of competitiveness for 3 years to not draft like a [expletive] moron.

 

Regarding next year, I can't see it happening without Baez and Bryant playing key roles, and I firmly believe they will not see the bigs until we've sucked another pre-FA year out of them meaning we have no intention of competing next season.

 

They drafted poorly, developed poorly, and changed their mind on what type of organization they wanted to build every 6 months. Hendry made a lot of good trades/signings, but his hit rate wasn't high enough to make up for the things he did poorly.

 

As for next year, I think enough good/decent prospects will be ready to contribute that they'll make a couple big signings. Adding a couple good hitters to the hitters that are already good, adding an additional SP, and adding Vizcaino and Rivero to the bullpen, I think we'll be playing meaningful games in Sept. If next year is like this year, or only slightly better, I'll admit that I'm a gullible idiot.

[ScrubMD]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

How does being right or wrong about such a statement have anything to do with being smarter or not? It's just goofy hyperbole.

 

You're right. I should be taking this much more seriously. I apologize.

 

Didn't know you were kidding with all of that and should have realized it with such an obviously ridiculous statement; my bad.

 

It's ok.

[Guest]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

It was impossible to have sustained success because they drafted really poorly under him which is so dumbfounding when you consider he was a freakin farm director It doesn't take abandoning all hope of competitiveness for 3 years to not draft like a [expletive] moron.

 

Regarding next year, I can't see it happening without Baez and Bryant playing key roles, and I firmly believe they will not see the bigs until we've sucked another pre-FA year out of them meaning we have no intention of competing next season.

 

They drafted poorly, developed poorly, and changed their mind on what type of organization they wanted to build every 6 months. Hendry made a lot of good trades/signings, but his hit rate wasn't high enough to make up for the things he did poorly.

 

As for next year, I think enough good/decent prospects will be ready to contribute that they'll make a couple big signings. Adding a couple good hitters to the hitters that are already good, adding an additional SP, and adding Vizcaino and Rivero to the bullpen, I think we'll be playing meaningful games in Sept. If next year is like this year, or only slightly better, I'll admit that I'm a gullible idiot.

 

How would that mean you're a gullible idiot? WTF?

[Sammy Sofa]

IT'S A JOKE, YOU FOOL.

[davell]

im not worried about a 21-year-old struggling at AAA, but what Javy is doing isn't struggling, it's dying.

 

It's the first time he's really faced adversity. His way eventually won out after initially struggling at other stops. He's going to need to make adjustments. He's bullheaded, in all likelihood, so who knows when that'll happen. But it will. I do trust this FO in their developmental process.

[ScrubMD]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

It was impossible to have sustained success because they drafted really poorly under him which is so dumbfounding when you consider he was a freakin farm director It doesn't take abandoning all hope of competitiveness for 3 years to not draft like a [expletive] moron.

 

Regarding next year, I can't see it happening without Baez and Bryant playing key roles, and I firmly believe they will not see the bigs until we've sucked another pre-FA year out of them meaning we have no intention of competing next season.

 

They drafted poorly, developed poorly, and changed their mind on what type of organization they wanted to build every 6 months. Hendry made a lot of good trades/signings, but his hit rate wasn't high enough to make up for the things he did poorly.

 

As for next year, I think enough good/decent prospects will be ready to contribute that they'll make a couple big signings. Adding a couple good hitters to the hitters that are already good, adding an additional SP, and adding Vizcaino and Rivero to the bullpen, I think we'll be playing meaningful games in Sept. If next year is like this year, or only slightly better, I'll admit that I'm a gullible idiot.

 

How would that mean you're a gullible idiot? WTF?

 

For believing they would start spending money, etc. Is it really that complicated?

[Guest]

i don't know what we're doing here anymore

[davell]

i don't know what we're doing here anymore

 

The thread? Or in baseball? Both?(my vote)

[SouthSideRyan]

Hendry was good at a lot of things, but it was impossible to have sustained success the way the organization was built. Next year will be the start of consistently competitive teams. I know people will pretend like I've been saying Logan Watkins was going to turn the team around and stuff like that, but I haven't. And if I'm wrong, next year I will admit that you're all smarter than me.

 

It was impossible to have sustained success because they drafted really poorly under him which is so dumbfounding when you consider he was a freakin farm director It doesn't take abandoning all hope of competitiveness for 3 years to not draft like a [expletive] moron.

 

Regarding next year, I can't see it happening without Baez and Bryant playing key roles, and I firmly believe they will not see the bigs until we've sucked another pre-FA year out of them meaning we have no intention of competing next season.

 

They drafted poorly, developed poorly, and changed their mind on what type of organization they wanted to build every 6 months. Hendry made a lot of good trades/signings, but his hit rate wasn't high enough to make up for the things he did poorly.

 

As for next year, I think enough good/decent prospects will be ready to contribute that they'll make a couple big signings. Adding a couple good hitters to the hitters that are already good, adding an additional SP, and adding Vizcaino and Rivero to the bullpen, I think we'll be playing meaningful games in Sept. If next year is like this year, or only slightly better, I'll admit that I'm a gullible idiot.

 

ADMIT IT NOW

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

i don't know what we're doing here anymore

 

The thread? Or in baseball? Both?(my vote)

[Infrequent Poster]

Is it okay to post about Samardzija again?

 

http://joefrisaro.mlblogs.com/2014/05/13/should-marlins-make-run-at-samardzija/

 

If the Marlins think they can still be a surprise club in 2014, they should give every consideration to making a blockbuster trade. Think big. And there is a big arm that could be had for a hefty price.

 

Jeff Samardzija of the Cubs is a target for a number of teams in contention. Perhaps the Marlins should join the list.

 

The Marlins have some attractive arms in their system that could be dangled. Save parting with Andrew Heaney, their No. 1 prospect, Miami would be wise to weigh what the Cubs would be asking.

[SouthSideRyan]

And there is a big arm that could be had for a hefty price.

 

The Marlins have some attractive arms in their system that could be dangled. Save parting with Andrew Heaney, their No. 1 prospect, Miami would be wise to weigh what the Cubs would be asking.

 

I bet they're not asking for your #2 pitching prospect who is striking out 3.8/9 IP

[Sammy Sofa]

All I want from Miami is Stanton. Jesus, [expletive], his numbers are sexy as hell this year.

[davell]

One, I seriously doubt the Marlins decide to add a guy that's only going to be there for half a season at best, pitching WITH Fernandez. While paying a big price. Two, without Heaney, they don't have anything remotely appealing enough to entice the Cubs. At least not unless they included a ML rotation piece. Which truly defeats their purpose on every level.

[Guest]

All I want from Miami is Stanton. Jesus, [expletive], his numbers are sexy as hell this year.

 

rofl if we got stanton and baez gets fixed, eventually we wouldn't even need to bother fielding a pitching staff.