2014 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread

[SABR Gamer]

Im glad to see him signed, it wasnt the best case scenario but it wasnt the worst either. Wouldve preferred franchising and developing a QB, I definitely think it's too much guaranteed given his injury rate.

 

Only 3 NFL QB's have played more games than Jay Cutler (95) since 2007.

 

Jay has started 109 games and missed 12. Aaron Rodgers has started 89 games and missed 9.

 

Hey man, reading can be difficult.

[Wilson A2000]

Every game in the NFL is important, but Jay has gotten hurt in the NFC Championship game in 2011, late in the season in 2011, and the middle and end of this year. There is no good time to get hurt, but he has gotten hurt when his team has arguably been playing its best ball the last three times. Just makes the injury time seem worse I guess.

[jersey cubs fan]

Every game in the NFL is important, but Jay has gotten hurt in the NFC Championship game in 2010-11, late in the season in 2011, and the middle and end of this year. There is no good time to get hurt, but he has gotten hurt when his team has arguably been playing its best ball the last three times. Just makes the injury time seem worse I guess.

 

[Banedon]

Every game in the NFL is important, but Jay has gotten hurt in the NFC Championship game in 2011, late in the season in 2011, and the middle and end of this year. There is no good time to get hurt, but he has gotten hurt when his team has arguably been playing its best ball the last three times. Just makes the injury time seem worse I guess.

 

If only he'd get hurt right at the beginning of the season, then people would feel better about it.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Or it just illustrates his importance to the team

[Banedon]

http://i.imgur.com/LZEGNvv.jpg

[SABR Gamer]

http://i.imgur.com/LZEGNvv.jpg

 

Lol one of those people was on my high school baseball team...nice...

[Soul]

Then there's this little tid-bit:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-12-31/news/chi-chris-conte-bears-twitter-20131230_1_bears-player-bears-fans-tv-reporter

[Guest]

Every game in the NFL is important, but Jay has gotten hurt in the NFC Championship game in 2011, late in the season in 2011, and the middle and end of this year. There is no good time to get hurt, but he has gotten hurt when his team has arguably been playing its best ball the last three times. Just makes the injury time seem worse I guess.

 

If only he'd get hurt right at the beginning of the season, then people would feel better about it.

 

It also makes him miss fewer games, thereby making those stats about missed games misleading.

 

Also, selection bias. How many current starting QBs were in the league in 2007 and already had starting jobs? That alone is going to help him have among the most starts in the league since 2007.

[Guest]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

 

If 2010 is irrelevant then why is 2011 relevant?

[jersey cubs fan]

Seems to me that quite a few people are equating quarterbacks with pitchers when it comes to injuries.

[Guest]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

 

If 2010 is irrelevant then why is 2011 relevant?

 

Because it's when he sustained the first of several different injuries that have caused him to miss time, illustrating that injuries beget injuries. He's missed 5 of his last 16 and 6 of his last 32 games, so it's not as if 2011 was aberrant in that comparison.

 

EDIT: I'm not even saying that Bears fans should be afraid of losing a whole season of Cutler because of injuries, like that pitcher comparison below. But missing several games a year is no joke when the Bears have missed the playoffs by a combined 4 games the last 3 years, and you're paying your QB 17 million on an offense-first team.

[Banedon]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

 

If 2010 is irrelevant then why is 2011 relevant?

 

Because it's when he sustained the first of several different injuries that have caused him to miss time, illustrating that injuries beget injuries. He's missed 5 of his last 16 and 6 of his last 32 games, so it's not as if 2011 was aberrant in that comparison.

 

Wait, are you insinuating that somehow his broken thumb is related to his groin and ankle injuries? How did one beget the others?

[bukie]

54 mil guaranteed to a clown that isn't even close to an elite QB.

 

Lol if you're being serious.

Isn't that Erik's alias?

 

That would make a lot of sense.

No, it's Cynosure's alias. Same crazy, but an actual Chicago fan. Mostly sticks to hockey insanity though. Originally banned for actively rooting against Cubs in hopes to be right about a point, to the extent of trolling game threads cheering when they did poorly.

[Soul]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

 

If 2010 is irrelevant then why is 2011 relevant?

 

Because it's when he sustained the first of several different injuries that have caused him to miss time, illustrating that injuries beget injuries. He's missed 5 of his last 16 and 6 of his last 32 games, so it's not as if 2011 was aberrant in that comparison.

 

I find that to be a ridiculous assertion.

[Guest]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

 

half of those missed games resulted from him breaking his thumb after entangling it in the facemask of an opposing player in a completely freak play that involved johnnie knox slipping and falling down in near garbage time of a game in which Jay drubbed the Chargers. A few of those others were after concussive, dirty hits to the head.

[davell]

Jay will receive 38 mill by March of 2015. Big ass signing bonus to help keep cap number down, hopefully?

[davell]

54 mil guaranteed to a clown that isn't even close to an elite QB.

 

Lol if you're being serious.

Isn't that Erik's alias?

 

That would make a lot of sense.

No, it's Cynosure's alias. Same crazy, but an actual Chicago fan. Mostly sticks to hockey insanity though. Originally banned for actively rooting against Cubs in hopes to be right about a point, to the extent of trolling game threads cheering when they did poorly.

 

Damn. :lol:

[Soul]

Jay will receive 38 mill by March of 2015. Big ass signing bonus to help keep cap number down, hopefully?

 

Number of years it is spread out over will do that.

[Guest]

Damn. :lol:

 

i was gonna guess cynosure after seeing his blackhawks-related handle

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

 

If 2010 is irrelevant then why is 2011 relevant?

 

Because it's when he sustained the first of several different injuries that have caused him to miss time, illustrating that injuries beget injuries. He's missed 5 of his last 16 and 6 of his last 32 games, so it's not as if 2011 was aberrant in that comparison.

 

EDIT: I'm not even saying that Bears fans should be afraid of losing a whole season of Cutler because of injuries, like that pitcher comparison below. But missing several games a year is no joke when the Bears have missed the playoffs by a combined 4 games the last 3 years, and you're paying your QB 17 million on an offense-first team.

 

You are treating him like a pitcher, acting as though a broken thumb somehow led to a strained groin.

[Soul]

As for McCown, here's where I saw that he wanted to come back to the Bears:

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-brad-biggs-10-thoughts-chicago-bears-20131230,0,3527042.story

 

The Bears also could look to re-sign backup Josh McCown, who would like to return.

 

“I have every intention of playing next season,” McCown told the Tribune.

 

In fact, McCown has talked about the possibility of moving his family to the area to ease concerns about missing time with his wife and four children. While he cannot sign a contract with the Bears until free agency opens March 11, he can negotiate fully with the club until that point and he’s made it clear his first option is to come back.

 

“These guys? I am loyal,” McCown said. “I love this locker room and these guys. For me, I am going to make sure we talk to the Bears before we do anything else. We want to make sure this door is closed before we consider anything else because I have too much appreciation for the McCaskeys and Phil (Emery) and Marc (Trestman) too.”

 

Maybe things will change if/when he gets other offers, but I'd sure like to see him return as the backup -- meatballs be damned. He's the ideal-fit backup QB for this club, and it should ease some of those injury concerns with Cutler that people have too.

[Guest]

I'm not sure why Cutler's durability in 2007-2010 is all that relevant. He's missed 12 of his last 48 games and is on the other side of 30 now, it's an important consideration in giving him big money.

 

If 2010 is irrelevant then why is 2011 relevant?

 

Because it's when he sustained the first of several different injuries that have caused him to miss time, illustrating that injuries beget injuries. He's missed 5 of his last 16 and 6 of his last 32 games, so it's not as if 2011 was aberrant in that comparison.

 

EDIT: I'm not even saying that Bears fans should be afraid of losing a whole season of Cutler because of injuries, like that pitcher comparison below. But missing several games a year is no joke when the Bears have missed the playoffs by a combined 4 games the last 3 years, and you're paying your QB 17 million on an offense-first team.

 

You are treating him like a pitcher, acting as though a broken thumb somehow led to a strained groin.

 

the lion share of the games missed were from injuries that were completely freak and unrelated.

[Guest]

You are treating him like a pitcher, acting as though a broken thumb somehow led to a strained groin.

 

You don't have to draw a straight line between the two injuries for it to be illustrative of the point. "Injuries beget injuries" means not only that you can hurt yourself compensating for one injury, but also that injuries(and especially 2nd and 3rd injuries like Cutler has already sustained) happen to players who (for whatever reason) are more prone to injuries.